Lol. Thanks. I actually liked lost boys and parts of 8mm. And I also met a person who worked with him and said he was a nice guy. He should just stay away from Bat movies
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Lol. Thanks. I actually liked lost boys and parts of 8mm. And I also met a person who worked with him and said he was a nice guy. He should just stay away from Bat movies
I understand what you mean and completely agree with you.
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That depends. If Batman, or any athlete is trying to gain lean mass or lose excess pounds, then yes of course, his weight will change. People like Batman have incredible control over their bodies, much like myself and most of my friends in Bodybuilding and modelling. Average people flucuate because they have poor diets and inconsistent activity levels. Aside from water weight, an athlete who is trying to maintain a weight level can do it...and many do.
Again depends. Batman in comics is typically depicted as a big dude, particularly so with certain artists. You'd have to assume, at least somewhat though, given Bruce's described history that his physique would be somewhere around where he'd want it when he started crime fighting. I don't see the God of prep time deciding to go off crime fighting when he didn't feel is physique was good enough.
Bale does what he can, which is pretty good considering he takes on roles like Bob Dylan and POWs.
He's in good shape. He's not in Batman's shape. Clark Bartram and the people used by BatintheSun films are in Batman's shape.
I mean as I say, that's the sacrifice. Rarely if ever can big guys act. Why? Because they spend all their time gettin' big while guys like Bale and Keaton take acting lessons. No surprise there.
Bale might be ripped, he certainly isn't big though. Although I can't weigh him without knowing how dense his bones are or how much he naturally weighs, he's not over 200...that's for damn sure (BTW he wasn't in the first film either, at least not in his shirtless scenes...that was some bullsh** lying...I remember the article quoting him "between 200-220" according to his publicists, like they don't have a goddamn scale lying around).
Physically I'm bigger and in better shape than Bale is. My friend Dan, who works out with me, looks like Jim Lee draws him.
Can't you just keep it hidden in the cowl?
Because of this.
I never said I didn't accept the role, I said I didn't accept it physically. What's your hang up on Bale needing to fit that aspect. There are other aspects to a role besides physique. Acting for example. The ability to interact well with your co-stars. The chemistry you have with your director. Your dedication to learning your lines and showing up on time. All of which, by the way, are much more important to pulling off a role than physique. Acting is a craft of illusions. Just like Keaton made me accept a guy who I could crush with one hand could be a vigilante, so too can Bale convince me a guy who doesn't train for twenty years is in fact a man who trained for twenty years. Movies always have suspension of belief, it comes with the territory. If Bale actually threatened to beat me up in a Bat costume, I'd laugh at him in real life...but it's not real life so I can deal with it.
Again, you've missed my point, I'd much prefer an oscar caliber actor. What does that mean, it's means I'm not ever gonna get Clark Bartram unless by some fluke a man who spends his life training magically pulls oscar acting ability out his ass.
I outlift him, I outrun him, I outperform him. Why? Because I spend all my time training for athletics. He spends his time training for acting. There is nothing wrong with having different lifestyle. Bale himself admits he hates working out, but unless being thin is a sign of athleticism (which, BTW, it isn't), Bale isn't honestly that athletic. Bale likes reading, practicing accents, spending time with his kids, researching new roles...wow, acting stuff. It's almost like, instead of wanting to weight train all the time he wants to act...astonishing.
Bartram you probably know from "Batman: Dead End"...which was a horrible film and I don't know why Batman fans like it *shrug*.
Because of this.
Batman's a big guy. He's drawn big, he's always been drawn big. Superman's always been drawn big. If this were a Spider-Man movie or a Speedball movie I'd wouldn't want Jacked McJackenstien playing the lead role. Same logic applies.
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Actually Batman is a bodybuilder, as are almost all Superheroes. The bodybuilder physique template is what's used to draw them. This even goes back to Jack Kirby. There's a reason comics so heavily advertised the "Charles Atlas" and "Steeve Reeves" characters back in the day...because they were inspired by the same Herculean forms that inspired bodybuilders.
That's a fairly tradition most muscular pose. Perhaps here is a better picture to show you want Clark Bartram really looks like.
He's certainly a skinny guy. He's probably looks good with his shirt off. No arguement there. But is he in the shape of a costumed vigilante who has been training since his parents got shot back when he was nine? No! But Clark Bartram, who BTW has several black belts in several martial arts, has been training that long. He, like me, grew up reading Batman and wanted to look like that. Again, I don't fault Bale for not being Batman's size, or cut, or strength, or speed, or being as good of a fighter. Of course not....if he was all those things I wouldn't be called acting because he wouldn't have to act in the first place.
True, but if Bartram came up to me dressed in a bat costume and wanted to kick my ass...while I might find that Bat costume rather silly...I still wouldn't want to take my chances with him.
...Because that's not Batman's physique. But again, that's really a non issue. Movies always are known for finding ways around these things. Just like they find a way to kill a guy in a movie and make him appear dead without actually killing him, they find ways to make skinny actors appear to be action heroes with a little movie magic.
I have 8% bodyfat. A six pack. Trained bodybuilder. In Bale's suit I'd probably look no different because Bale's suit has all that mesh and plastic molded padding. But in terms of walking around with my shirt off...I'm better looking body wise than he is in that Ring of Fire picture.
I'm not. I'm glad they hired an actor. I'd make a terrible Batman...might make a good stunt man, but that's about where my acting range would end. Jump through a window, I'm on it. Give a speech about my motivation as a character...uh, no thanks. I'd never want them to hire Tom Brady, Clark Bartram or the BatintheSun guys no matter how much more they look like Batman. They can't act. The only people I resent is FOX for not having the smarts to cast me as Cyclops.
He may not compete in bodybuilding...that's kind of irrelevant though..., but the way he is drawn is based on Bodybuilder physique.
Bodybuilders are the only weight lifters who care about size, shape and proportion. They train for it since all their training revolves around hypertrophy. Ironically so do comic artists, though not for the same reasons. Art is all about aesthetics, making something appealling to the eye. Comic artists choose a very dramatic, large and sculpted look for comic characters all of which comes from bodybuilding roots.Mr. Socko said:
Bollocks.
