Light Tubes Is Not A Wrestling Thread! - - - Part 57

[NDX]

Nothing overkill about a steel cage in a steel cage match, lol.

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Marking his territory. Riiiiiight.

 

[Dr. Evil]

That's it. I'm calling for a lumberjill hell in a cell match between Khama and Beth for the Divas title, haha. That would be insanely awesome, imo.

I would be intrigued by that type of match.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Love the thread title. Anybody who sees it but isn't a regular here will think we've all gone insane.

Like they haven't already?

 

[bullets]

I wish Jeff Hardy would come back to WWE, honestly. He'd instantly be #3 face, IMO. Its never gonna happen, though.

He still has some bitterness towards WWE over making his home fire an angle. Also he has issues with CM Punk. It's kind of a shame but at the same time it could of been disastrous if he committed another strike.
At least now that it's been awhile he seems healthy and probably enjoys his time in TNA.

WWE is about the same overall as it was a few years ago. in some areas its better and in others its worse. The tag division is a bit weaker and the Divas division has almost totally went into the toilet. Every time there's a ray of hope (Kharma, The Hart Dynasty) it never seems to work out.

Their youth movement has had strong and weak momentum. For a while they were on a great path to pushing young talent but in the last year or so some of that momentum has been lost.

Mark Henry had a fantastic monster heel run but sadly it didn't go as far as it could have for various reasons. He and Show actually entertained me. Who would have thunk it? We need more strong heels. Del Rios a joke right now. Roodes dusted him in the last 6 months.

Punk had the hottest angle of the year last summer but Triple H had to stick his big nose in. The COO storyline was a joke. As bad as Hogan running Impact. Since then Punk has done some fantastic work though.

Lesnars return has added an exciting new element.

It's been a strange year for WWE. If you look at perceptions around WM 27 and now it's entirely different.

I think Hogan could work in the TNA GM role but not if him and Bischoff are taking center stage.

Because of my schedule, I had to do a lot of backtracking of the TNA shows via youtube. The shows have gotten better. They are putting on a better product than WWE at the moment.

It's hard for me to catch as much because I work nights. I'll probably give it another go thanks to youtube. The Roode and Storm feud has a great build-up for lockdown.

I don't know if TNA is better but they do a better job in some aspects. Right now the midcard in wwe is a mess , the tag division almost non existent and the woman's division isn't what it should be. Hopefully that all changes soon.

 

[TX85]

I've made other threads like this But now I'm curious about somethings for wrestling,What IF history was different for many big-huge happenings?

-What IF Vince Mcmahon Sr lived&not retired until the late 90's?

-What IF Iron Shiek won&retained the WWF title against Hogan in'85 and Hogan became A big name But not THE face of the company/wrestling that year??

-What IF Flair died during his plane accident?

-What IF the Montreal Screwjob didn't happen and Bret stayed in the WWF?

-What IF Owen Hart did not get the Blue Blazer gimmick and thus not did that stunt that ended his life?

-What IF the steroids trail didn't happen and Hogan stayed in WWF?

-What IF nWo did not happen?

-What IF Sting remained Surfer Sting instead of going Crow?

-What IF the Savage/Vince Jr personal feud never happened?

-What IF WCW did not get shut-down?

-What IF WWF remained as WWF even to today?

-What IF Brock remained in the company for at least another year before going for football&UFC?

-What IF Eddie did not die?

-What IF Benoit did not murder his family and remained wrestling?

 

[The Sage]

I think that is on the Greatest Stars of the 80s series. I'd go check my dvd, but I have them holding up some records right now so I'm not screwing with that setup at the moment.

Here, this confrims it. http://www.highspots.com/product.asp?affiliateid=759&id=12891

Ah, I wonder if I should pick that set up.

Their match from Chi Town Rumble is on the Rise and Fall of WCW dvd set, Sage.

Thanks. I just remembered I have this set. I put the disc in. Bout to watch a few vintage matches.

 

[Pink Ranger]

-What IF the Montreal Screwjob didn't happen and Bret stayed in the WWF?

The Attitude Era would have still happened, but with Hart vs. Austin in the Wrestlemania main event. DX would still have continued, but would have been a mid-card act, as Shawn would have likelier retired a lot sooner after the Montreal Survivor Series. Since DX-post-Shawn was a mid-card act anyway, and Austin was already being groomed for the top face position, the Attitude Era itself would have those two major components still.

The big impact would have been either Foley or the Rock. Hart would have essentially assumed one of their roles, either as the corporate champion pushed aside for the younger, more athletic, model, or as the long-term corporate heel. If Hart took Foley's role, Mankind would be kept as a midcard act, as he still would have a place in the hardcore division.

If Hart took Rock's role, we'd likely see Rock end up in WCW after about a year.

 

[Metallo]

SD! Replay Tonight
As a reminder, Syfy will be airing a replay of this week's live Smackdown tonight in its usual Friday night time slot.

More Details on WWE No Way Out Concept
The following is the description of the DVD release for WWE's No Way Out PPV, which will be returning in June. The description notes that the PPV will indeed feature cage matches with various stipulations in place to "prevent opponents from escaping:"

After a three year hiatus, WWE No Way Out is back and recharged! The annual pay-per-view that became notorious for its brutal, main event Steel Cage Matches gets reincarnated, but this time the Superstars of WWE will take the thematic event a step further, as they find new and innovative ways to prevent opponents from escaping. All stipulations in place, which may include Lumberjack, Strap, Chain, Steel Cage, Handcuff Matches or more will ensure no respite from the chaos inside the ring.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/253071-more-details-on-no-way-out-concept-sd-replay-tonight

Am I reading that right? Do they mean all the matches will take place in a cage PLUS those stips or do they mean that each match will have the two opponents stuck together somehow and that a cage match is just one way it'll be done? Its got to be the latter. The former sounds ridiculous.

He still has some bitterness towards WWE over making his home fire an angle. Also he has issues with CM Punk. It's kind of a shame but at the same time it could of been disastrous if he committed another strike.

At least now that it's been awhile he seems healthy and probably enjoys his time in TNA.

It sucks since Hardy and Punk had great chemistry despite developing problems with each other. They could have been the next Bret vs Shawn-like rivalry (in more ways than one).

It's been a strange year for WWE. If you look at perceptions around WM 27 and now it's entirely different.

I think Hogan could work in the TNA GM role but not if him and Bischoff are taking center stage.

The midcard push was going strong but at some point WWE lost focus on that.

As for Hogan...yeah that would be nice but we all know chances are slim. There is really nothing else he can do either.

It's hard for me to catch as much because I work nights. I'll probably give it another go thanks to youtube. The Roode and Storm feud has a great build-up for lockdown.

I don't know if TNA is better but they do a better job in some aspects. Right now the midcard in wwe is a mess , the tag division almost non existent and the woman's division isn't what it should be. Hopefully that all changes soon.

The MCMG returning immediately put TNA's tag division over WWE's even though both are weak at the moment. Primo and Epico have some potential. So do the Usos. Yet WWE really hasn't used them as best they could.

 

[Superark]

Credit www.PWInsider.com


In the New York Times piece talking about Kurt Angle pulling out of the Olympic Trials, they referred to him as a "WWE wrestler". Ouch.

The 4/12 edition of Impact did a 0.98 rating with 1,395,000 viewers. So much for weddings always drawing ratings. I guess they can be negated by nepotism.


On social media this week, Eric Bischoff blasted the UFC show that left Spike TV for FX, crowing about how Impact does a better number (which is true but kind of tacky to brag about). I really have to wonder if karma slapped down the Impact rating to under a 1.00 this week because it didn't like Bischoff shooting off his mouth. Usually, weddings draw big numbers and this week's show LOST viewers, so if it wasn't karma that slapped the Impact number down it very well may have been due to Uncle Eric pushing his son at the expense of real wrestlers. A wedding is supposed to ADD viewers not cost Impact 82,000 of them.


Hulk Hogan's Belleair estate, where he filmed "Hogan Knows Best" in happier times, sold yesterday for $6.2 million. Five years ago, Hogan put it on the market for $25 million. Ouch.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Hulk Hogan's Belleair estate, where he filmed "Hogan Knows Best" in happier times, sold yesterday for $6.2 million. Five years ago, Hogan put it on the market for $25 million. Ouch.
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It's the first time in history Hulk has sold anything.

 

[Wheels]

Bischoff is an idiot. Ratings aren't as important as some people believe. Look at UFC buyrates compared to TNA and WWE. Ratings don't really matter now as much as during the monday night wars.

 

[Metallo]

I've made other threads like this But now I'm curious about somethings for wrestling,What IF history was different for many big-huge happenings?

-What IF Vince McMahon Sr lived&not retired until the late 90's?

He probably would have given more control to his son anyway even if he didn't outright sell to Vince Jr. National expansion just HAD to happen with the way media was changing and the public appetites for entertainment were growing but the expansion wouldn't have been as big. WWF would have still grown from a territory to a company with wider exposure. If Vince had never taken over he would have never bought out Georgia Championship Wrestling. I can't see it being done under Vince Sr. No Black Saturday. That could have affected The Crockett's and Turner's plans throughout the 80's.

If The Crocketts hadn't felt the need to compete as hard against WWF they probably would have kept control of their company longer.

-What IF Iron Sheik won&retained the WWF title against Hogan in'85 and Hogan became A big name But not THE face of the company/wrestling that year??

Well, if Hogan wasn't the guy they would have gone with someone else eventually. Tensions with Iran were strong through the 80's so they would have either created a new All American hero to take the title from the Sheik or kept Sgt Slaughter around to be the top face for a little while. I can't see Slaughter doing as well as Hogan but for a short time it would have been successful.

Vince could have tried to go with another top guy from the NWA or the AWA as his top star. Maybe Curt Hennig or someone else he could mold into an All American guy. Magnum TA would have been far too southern for Vince's tastes. Eventually I could see him giving Luger and Sting a shot in the late 80's.

-What IF Flair died during his plane accident?

The NWA would have gone with someone else as their top guy in the 80's but it probably wouldn't have worked as well. Harley Race might have stayed top heel a little longer. Instead of working with Flair he may have put someone like Steamboat or Dusty over as a new top babyface star. They needed a workhorse in the spot so I'd go with Steamboat. He was young with a great look and very talented in the ring.

No Flair means that many wrestlers that would come later lose one of their biggest influences. HBK and HHH being the biggest examples. No Flair possibly means no Horsemen and we never have one of the most influential factions of all time.

-What IF the Montreal Screwjob didn't happen and Bret stayed in the WWF?

Austins rise was unavoidable. I think Vince was going with HBK as his guy before that if Bret had left or not. There just wasn't enough room in the WWF for Bret and Shawn. Bret was about 40 years old in 1997 and if he had stayed I could see him winding down his in ring career as the 90's came to a close. Bret may have eventually become an agent.

Owen may have lived and never gone down the path that ended with him as the Blue Blazer again. Bret MAY have been the one to put Austin over at WM 14 but I think it would have been Shawn.

Now if Bret stayed who knows how that would have affected the series of events that led to Shawn's injury at the Royal Rumble. It may not have ever happened and Shawn could have stuck around for the Attitude Era. of course his drug problems may have gotten worse. Hard to say.

I could see Austin vs HBK and DX going on as a heated rivalry throughout 1998.

No Screwjob means the Mr McMahon character wouldn't have had as strong a launch. Vince probably would have done it anyway but he may not have began as hated as he was.

-What IF Owen Hart did not get the Blue Blazer gimmick and thus not did that stunt that ended his life?

He would have continued on in the midcard doing solid work, maybe have gotten a WWF title run as a transitional champion, then wound down his career and retire within 5 years or so.

-What IF the steroids trail didn't happen and Hogan stayed in WWF?

People would have eventually tired of him it just may not have happened quite as soon. Now if Hogan had been willing to step away from the main event and become a part timer/special attraction it may have extended his career lifespan considerably.

-What IF nWo did not happen?

WCW wouldn't have beaten WWF as quickly. It may have still happened but not in such a memorable fashion. The NWO angle really changed the way their entire product was presented. We went from the more cartoonish corporate WCW that had the likes of the Dungeon of Doom to a more realistic in your face style program.

-What IF Sting remained Surfer Sting instead of going Crow?

It would have eventually worn thin. Not sure how long that would have taken but Sting knew he had to evolve and by the Jerry Springer/Lewinsky Scandal/ Simpson trial oversaturated late 90's the Surfer Sting would have seemed a little corny.

-What IF the Savage/Vince Jr personal feud never happened?

Savage would have stayed on as an announcer and a occasional wrestler. He would have gone into the HOF by now thats for damn sure.

-What IF WCW did not get shut-down?

They would have limped along until Time Warner cleaned house at the top and finally found someone to fix things. WCW may have never reached the heights that it had before but it would have survived as a solid number 2 company. Or Time Warner still would have sold it they just would have been willing to keep airing WCW programming on their stations through some kind of deal with WCW's new owners.

-What IF WWF remained as WWF even to today?

Id be happier. I still miss the "Federation." We wouldn't be bothered by so many damn BLURS and dubbed over sound on dvd releases.

-What IF Brock remained in the company for at least another year before going for football&UFC?

He would have stayed a top guy just not being pushed as hard as he was in his first year. He may have wrestled Triple H one on one at some point. Maybe on the way out. Or he could have gone into WM21 as a champion and put over Cena instead of JBL doing the honors.

-What IF Eddie did not die?

He would have continue having a solid career...maybe a few more world title runs. he would have helped Batista sort out a lot of his sh** and grow as a performer. He would have had at least one epic match with Shawn Michaels. Then Eddie would be winding his career down by now. He might even be retired. Benoit may not have snapped as hard as he did but thats a big question mark. Who knows

-What IF Benoit did not murder his family and remained wrestling?

He would have wound his career down as a strong upper midcard guy teaching the new talent. he would have had a great match with CM Punk at Vengeance (or whatever PPV it was). Benoit would have been a strong veteran presence on the new ECW for a while. By now he'd be retired and an agent. His neck was a ticking timebomb by that point and he'd had a lot of wear and tear.

 

[Slushy]

Re: Bret

Austin Vs. Hart for the WWF Championship would've arguably been the greatest Wrestlemania main event of all-time and The Hitman would've gone to have 5 matches against and putting over Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, and Kurt Angle. Good chance Shawn Michaels would've died from his partying ways gone out of control.

Re: Owen

He didn't about being world champion, but would've eventually won the WWF Championship as a "Thank you" gesture from management.

Re: Lesnar

I think he would've won the title back from Eddie (who was supposed to be a long term champion if he didn't let the pressure get to him) and would've had the title for awhile before dropping it to Cena at No Way Out or some other show before defeating HHH at Wrestlemania 21 although I'm not sure if that match would've been for a world title or not. Evolution would've stayed together as well.

Re: That One Guy

We would've had a 5 star match at Vengeance 2007 with him defeating Punk. After he lost the title, he would've been back to jobbing to new talent.

Question...a DVD set was put out in the last few years that had Flair/Steamboat's bout from Chi-Town Rumble in 1989. It was the first of their series.

Fun fact: Chi-Town Rumble is Ric Flair's favorite match while the Clash of The Champions rematch is Ricky Steamboat's!

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

So I don't think many people really checked out that Promotion Wars game, but I've been running a WWE file. Just got done with the Royal Rumble.

I ended the roster split and combined both shows. As a consequence, I started a feud between CM Punk and Daniel Bryan to unify the two world titles. That feud culminated in a Best 2 of 3 Falls match in with CM Punk won to unify the titles.

I started a feud between The Rock and John Cena. Rock announced that he'd be retiring after the Rumble... But of course I still had him go over Cena. =) I did have him lose a match on Raw to Daniel Bryan though to help build Bryan for his title match. Rock wasn't too happy about it.

I signed Chris Jericho to come back. He won the Royal Rumble by eliminating The Rock (Rock entered at #1 and went all the way to the final 2, getting 13 eliminations). Jericho and CM Punk should headline Wrestlemania.

In other feuds, Zack Ryder retained his US Championship against Wade Barrett, and Cody Rhodes retained the Intercontinental Championship against Booker T.

Ziggler and Swagger had won the Tag Team Titles on an episode of Smackdown against Air Boom and retained at the Royal Rumble.

Hunico and Justin Gabriel had been tearing down the house on Superstars, so I rewarded them by creating a Light-Heavyweight Championship, which Gabriel won in a Ladder Match.

Team Laurinaitus (Otunga and Brie Bella) defeated Team Teddy (Santino and Nikki Bella) for full control of Raw and Smackdown and Triple H beat The Miz.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

He probably would have given more control to his son anyway even if he didn't outright sell to Vince Jr. National expansion just HAD to happen with the way media was changing and the public appetites for entertainment were growing but the expansion wouldn't have been as big. WWF would have still grown from a territory to a company with wider exposure. If Vince had never taken over he would have never bought out Georgia Championship Wrestling. I can't see it being done under Vince Sr. No Black Saturday. That could have affected The Crockett's and Turner's plans throughout the 80's.

If The Crocketts hadn't felt the need to compete as hard against WWF they probably would have kept control of their company longer.




Well, if Hogan wasn't the guy they would have gone with someone else eventually. Tensions with Iran were strong through the 80's so they would have either created a new All American hero to take the title from the Sheik or kept Sgt Slaughter around to be the top face for a little while. I can't see Slaughter doing as well as Hogan but for a short time it would have been successful.

Vince could have tried to go with another top guy from the NWA or the AWA as his top star. Maybe Curt Hennig or someone else he could mold into an All American guy. Magnum TA would have been far too southern for Vince's tastes. Eventually I could see him giving Luger and Sting a shot in the late 80's.




The NWA would have gone with someone else as their top guy in the 80's but it probably wouldn't have worked as well. Harley Race might have stayed top heel a little longer. Instead of working with Flair he may have put someone like Steamboat or Dusty over as a new top babyface star. They needed a workhorse in the spot so I'd go with Steamboat. He was young with a great look and very talented in the ring.

No Flair means that many wrestlers that would come later lose one of their biggest influences. HBK and HHH being the biggest examples. No Flair possibly means no Horsemen and we never have one of the most influential factions of all time.




Austins rise was unavoidable. I think Vince was going with HBK as his guy before that if Bret had left or not. There just wasn't enough room in the WWF for Bret and Shawn. Bret was about 40 years old in 1997 and if he had stayed I could see him winding down his in ring career as the 90's came to a close. Bret may have eventually become an agent.

Owen may have lived and never gone down the path that ended with him as the Blue Blazer again. Bret MAY have been the one to put Austin over at WM 14 but I think it would have been Shawn.

Now if Bret stayed who knows how that would have affected the series of events that led to Shawn's injury at the Royal Rumble. It may not have ever happened and Shawn could have stuck around for the Attitude Era. of course his drug problems may have gotten worse. Hard to say.

I could see Austin vs HBK and DX going on as a heated rivalry throughout 1998.

No Screwjob means the Mr McMahon character wouldn't have had as strong a launch. Vince probably would have done it anyway but he may not have began as hated as he was.




He would have continued on in the midcard doing solid work, maybe have gotten a WWF title run as a transitional champion, then wound down his career and retire within 5 years or so.




People would have eventually tired of him it just may not have happened quite as soon. Now if Hogan had been willing to step away from the main event and become a part timer/special attraction it may have extended his career lifespan considerably.




WCW wouldn't have beaten WWF as quickly. It may have still happened but not in such a memorable fashion. The NWO angle really changed the way their entire product was presented. We went from the more cartoonish corporate WCW that had the likes of the Dungeon of Doom to a more realistic in your face style program.




It would have eventually worn thin. Not sure how long that would have taken but Sting knew he had to evolve and by the Jerry Springer/Lewinsky Scandal/ Simpson trial oversaturated late 90's the Surfer Sting would have seemed a little corny.




Savage would have stayed on as an announcer and a occasional wrestler. He would have gone into the HOF by now thats for damn sure.




They would have limped along until Time Warner cleaned house at the top and finally found someone to fix things. WCW may have never reached the heights that it had before but it would have survived as a solid number 2 company. Or Time Warner still would have sold it they just would have been willing to keep airing WCW programming on their stations through some kind of deal with WCW's new owners.




Id be happier. I still miss the "Federation." We wouldn't be bothered by so many damn BLURS and dubbed over sound on dvd releases.




He would have stayed a top guy just not being pushed as hard as he was in his first year. He may have wrestled Triple H one on one at some point. Maybe on the way out. Or he could have gone into WM21 as a champion and put over Cena instead of JBL doing the honors.




He would have continue having a solid career...maybe a few more world title runs. he would have helped Batista sort out a lot of his sh** and grow as a performer. He would have had at least one epic match with Shawn Michaels. Then Eddie would be winding his career down by now. He might even be retired. Benoit may not have snapped as hard as he did but thats a big question mark. Who knows




He would have wound his career down as a strong upper midcard guy teaching the new talent. he would have had a great match with CM Punk at Vengeance (or whatever PPV it was). Benoit would have been a strong veteran presence on the new ECW for a while. By now he'd be retired and an agent. His neck was a ticking timebomb by that point and he'd had a lot of wear and tear.

If wCw was still around today they be like Jim Crockett Promotions from the 80s. A #2 wrestling company like you said and popular but not a billion dollar empire.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

If WCW was still around it would be TNA status.

 

[Metallo]

If WCW was still around it would be TNA status.

Probably money and ranking wise but not necessarily perception wise. That depends entirely on who would be running it. If it was Time Warner owning WCW they'd still have access to a lot of resources. If it was owned a smaller parent company not so much.

It would probably be the number 2 company but WCW would still have something going for it that TNA doesn't: a larger portion of the public had a familiarity with WCW when it was a major promotion and before that a familiarity with the NWA. That might be helping them do better than TNA is right now.

 

[The Apocalypse]

If WCW was still around it would be TNA status.

If WCW was still around it would mean that someone, some how, magically brought it out of a coma. It would have to be competing with WWE on some more of a level than TNA is. Who knows what might have happened. Maybe people like CM Punk and Samoa Joe, who at the time were ROHs' big guns would have signed with WCW instead.

 

[Wheels]

Foley tweet:

I'm going to start working on a pretty thorough piece addressing this whole Dean Ambrose thing. It might rub many the wrong way. We'll see.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Probably money and ranking wise but not necessarily perception wise. That depends entirely on who would be running it. If it was Time Warner owning WCW they'd still have access to a lot of resources. If it was owned a smaller parent company not so much.

It would probably be the number 2 company but WCW would still have something going for it that TNA doesn't: a larger portion of the public had a familiarity with WCW when it was a major promotion and before that a familiarity with the NWA. That might be helping them do better than TNA is be right now.

Very true.

Whenever I look at these What if scenario's.I think hmmm...A what If scenario could be like a butterfly effect on things.like If WCW was around

-Would we still get an Avengers film?

-Would we be seeing Ready to Rumble II

-Would Star Jones still be on The View?

-Would we be using the Metric system in the US?

What would be the effect at large of WCW never going under?Maybe I'm over thinking it.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Probably money and ranking wise but not necessarily perception wise. That depends entirely on who would be running it. If it was Time Warner owning WCW they'd still have access to a lot of resources. If it was owned a smaller parent company not so much.

It would probably be the number 2 company but WCW would still have something going for it that TNA doesn't: a larger portion of the public had a familiarity with WCW when it was a major promotion and before that a familiarity with the NWA. That might be helping them do better than TNA is right now.

Yeah if wCw was still around even with a small parent company owning them, they would still get better PPV buyrates, have higher ratings and make more money cause of people knowing about wCw since the 80s and before that with them originally being JCP like you said.

No way wCw would be like TNA is now if it was still around. And I think if wCw was still around, WWE would try and put on a better product now cause they fear wCw would strike again like they did in 1996.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Very true.

Whenever I look at these What if scenario's.I think hmmm...A what If scenario could be like a butterfly effect on things.like If WCW was around

-Would we still get an Avengers film?

-Would we be seeing Ready to Rumble II

-Would Star Jones still be on The View?

-Would we be using the Metric system in the US?

What would be the effect at large of WCW never going under?Maybe I'm over thinking it.

WWE would proably not be putting on a lackluster product right now cause in fear that wCw would become a threat again.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Bischoff is an idiot. Ratings aren't as important as some people believe. Look at UFC buyrates compared to TNA and WWE. Ratings don't really matter now as much as during the monday night wars.

Also it's much cooler to be in UFC than WWE and TNA.

 

[Project862006]

^very true and also every headlined ppv with lesnar in ufc all crosses over 1 million buys

that aint happening for WWE

 

[Superark]

With TNA Lockdown coming up this Sunday, TNA has posted a bunch of "Classic Lockdown" matches on their website. There's more, but here's some of my favorites from what they posted....


Mr. Anderson vs. Kurt Angle
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AJ Styles vs. Abyss
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