Light Tubes Is Not A Wrestling Thread! - - - Part 57

[Dr. Evil]

Awesome pics ultimate evil.

Wrong evil.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Even with those changes, I doubt WCW would have survived or would have ever came close being real competition for WWE again. Bischoff's biggest problem has always been a reliance on past stars and refusal to push new stars.

As bad as Vince is with the "size matters" mindset or stalling young guys pushes, Bischoff is worse. He's a guy who to this day says he doesn't see Jericho as top of the card material and defends his decision to keep him down in WCW. He has no real eye for talent, and when he does admit younger or smaller guys are talented, chooses to keep them down the card as a side attraction while putting the focus on fading stars or rookies who are as green as they are muscled.

Furthermore, he's a one trick pony when it comes to booking. After the nWo angle, he either refused to or couldn't come up with anything else good, and kept going back to it until it got ran into the ground. Even in TNA, what'd he do? "The Band" got back together, then Hulk turns heel, Immortal, Sting fights them. It never ends, he can't come up with anything else.

If rebranded right wCw could of atleast ended up like JCP in the 80s. Pose a little challenge to WWE but still being the #2 company. Knowing Bishoff he would of had a wCw vs. ecw hostile takeover storyline, with Heyman and ECW trying to take over the company and Sting trying to defeat them.

 

[Wheels]

Badass. hopefully Willis and The Rock allow me to ignore Channing Tatum.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Wrong evil.

Did not feel like typing the "the"

 

[bullets]

Anyone think that the WWE is waiting until a return to the states to release people?

More than likely. Who's on the chopping block?



Also the new G.I. Joe looks much better than the first. Hopefully Rock can save the franchise.

 

[NDX]

More than likely. Who's on the chopping block?

If it was my call, it would be 90% of the roster.

 

[Lobo]

More than likely. Who's on the chopping block?



Also the new G.I. Joe looks much better than the first. Hopefully Rock can save the franchise.

I'd say Alex Riley, he went from challenging for the US title and being more over then he had any right to be to not even being on tv or if he wwas getting squashed by Brodus. I know Riley had/has heat on him, does anyone know what for?

Also, I'd add Camacho, JTG, Ezekiel Jackson, and Evan Bourne

 

[TripleR]

If rebranded right wCw could of atleast ended up like JCP in the 80s. Pose a little challenge to WWE but still being the #2 company. Knowing Bishoff he would of had a wCw vs. ecw hostile takeover storyline, with Heyman and ECW trying to take over the company and Sting trying to defeat them.

If rebranded and under new management, definitely, but with Bischoff at the helm I still can't help but think it would have quickly turned into a sinking ship. Same old ideas and mentality, but with a smaller checkbook, can't see it lasting too long. Even that idea, while cool, sounds like yet another version of the nWo angle. Evil outsiders come in, Sting fights them off... same old thing that he ran into the ground in the original WCW. That's if it even could have happened. I doubt Heyman would have wanted anything to do with Bischoff at that time.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I'd say Alex Riley, he went from challenging for the US title and being more over then he had any right to be to not even being on tv or if he wwas getting squashed by Brodus. I know Riley had/has heat on him, does anyone know what for?

Also, I'd add Camacho, JTG, Ezekiel Jackson, and Evan Bourne

I'll add Trebt Barreta, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Johnny Curtis, Darren Young, Tyler Reks, plus some FCW guys.

 

[venom892]

I'm sure some FCW talent will be released. Darren Young and JTG are prime candidates.

 

[Wheels]

Evan Bourne. He might never wrestle again anyway.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

If rebranded and under new management, definitely, but with Bischoff at the helm I still can't help but think it would have quickly turned into a sinking ship. Same old ideas and mentality, but with a smaller checkbook, can't see it lasting too long. Even that idea, while cool, sounds like yet another version of the nWo angle. Evil outsiders come in, Sting fights them off... same old thing that he ran into the ground in the original WCW. That's if it even could have happened. I doubt Heyman would have wanted anything to do with Bischoff at that time.

I'm just saying if Bishoff somehow got Heyman and ECW wrestlers to join them thats what he proably would of done to restart wCw. But if Heyman was booking and had control he might would be able to make a storyline like that good. Sone of the old wrestlers said if they knew wCw was so cheap to buy they would of bought it. And I mean the old guys who had knowledge of the buisness and wanted to look out for the old guys. Could of had a legit buisnessman run the company financially, while they do the wrestling stuff.

 

[Wheels]

Foley tweets:

This Dec 2010 promo with me & Flair seems to be where the entire Ambrose philosophy comes from

I heard @thedeanambrose had an original thought once..and it died of loneliness. #poorveruca

I can't post the video in the thread because of one word Flair says.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Did not feel like typing the "the"

Still wrong evil.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Still wrong evil.

Ok.

 

[Dr. Evil]

More than likely. Who's on the chopping block?

The Bellas have an expiring contract at the end of this month, so they will be gone if they are not re-signed.

 

[TX85]

Sure will be interesting when it's revealed who gets cut!

 

[TripleR]

I'm just saying if Bishoff somehow got Heyman and ECW wrestlers to join them thats what he proably would of done to restart wCw. But if Heyman was booking and had control he might would be able to make a storyline like that good. Sone of the old wrestlers said if they knew wCw was so cheap to buy they would of bought it. And I mean the old guys who had knowledge of the buisness and wanted to look out for the old guys. Could of had a legit buisnessman run the company financially, while they do the wrestling stuff.

I'll agree with this, Heyman or someone else in charge could have turned it around in a good way, just as long as it wasn't Bischoff running it again because that guy never learned his lesson lol.

 

[Superark]

So WCW was going to become a west coast wrestling promotion and not be a southern one anymore, thats interesting. I think they would of been able to make more money having Nitro in LA everyweek then LV.

Also were was Thunder and Saturday Night going to be held at? So bascially wCw was going back to its NWA/JCP roots with the main shows being held in tv studios and ppvs in arenas.

Can I get a link to watch and hear this?

They didn't say anything about Thunder or saturday night in specific. They were still going to do live shows for Nitro, just no take it on the road as much.

You can listen to the audio but you would need to sign up for a PWInsider Elite account or do their Free 3-day trial

 

[Superark]

Didn't watch Lockdown, but I read the report and it sounds like it was a rather lackluster show that dropped the ball. I cannot believe they did not have Storm go over in TN.

I'm surprised because some of those matches on paper had the potential to be off-the charts

 

[Wheels]

Ambrose responds:

I'm Veruca Salt's zombie corpse. I'd fn eat Willy Wonka alive.

Oh, also you did a great job of taking tv away from great young talent in that segment. Then you stole their money and left #thanksmick

Hmm, Ric is right, Only Ric wasn't one of those kids.I'm far more evolved, I'm far too damaged. Way past the point of no return #thanksmick

 

[The Sage]

Didn't watch Lockdown, but I read the report and it sounds like it was a rather lackluster show that dropped the ball. I cannot believe they did not have Storm go over in TN.

I'm surprised because some of those matches on paper had the potential to be off-the charts

Would it have been smart to have Storm go over instead of Roode continue on as champion? Maybe their aim is to keep building him up as a good heel.

 

[The Sage]

- TNA will tape Impact Wrestling on Tuesday and Wednesday night of this week with the fallout from Lockdown. They are teasing a major announcement from Hulk Hogan.

- Tickets for the 10-year anniversary Slammiversary pay-per-view will go on sale April 20th. This year's show will be held on June 10th from College Park Center in Arlington, Texas.

- Former WWE and TNA star Chris Harris was in the crowd at last night's TNA Lockdown pay-per-view from Nashville. Harris was making it known he was there and was said to be in good shape.

- Kurt Angle wrote on Twitter after his Lockdown loss to Jeff Hardy that his knee held up during the match and he is okay with pulling out of the Olympics. Angle added that he loves the fans and his job now is to entertain us.

- Former TNA Knockout Leticia Cline announced on Facebook that her wedding planned for this summer has been canceled. She cited personal reasons.

- Per the stipulations, Eric Bischoff has been written out of the TNA storylines after his team lost the Lethal Lockdown match to Team Garett Bischoff at last night's Lockdown pay-per-view. The other stipulation was Eric is no longer allowed to use the Bischoff name in business.

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/336572417.php
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[Keyser Soze]

I've seen quite a few people complaining about what a travesty it is that Robert Roode beat James Storm. And on the surface, yes, it seems like a terrible decision, after all the hype building up to this match. But, though I'm no fan of TNA or their moronic booking decisions, I have to say this one could make sense. Yes, James Storm finally beating Robert Roode for the title at Lockdown would have been big. But let's not forget that, in 2 months, arguably TNA's biggest event ever - their 10-year Slammiversary - is taking place. That could turn out to be the ideal location for the big blow-off between Robert Roode and James Storm.

 

[Lobo]

Still wrong evil.

He was referring to the house show pics, not the GI Joe ones.