I'm not. Funny enough that I am not even a Batman Begins Nolan fanboy. I've read Batman since the mid-80s, before Burton ever took a Batman comic in his hands. Which bangwagon??? I don't care what other people say! The changes made for Batman Begins were just there to fit the story. The essence of the characters was still right(er than Burton's take). Burton's Batman is a brooding psychopath, Nolan's Batman is a hero who gives his life to save other people. About this there is no need to argue! I see the same mistakes in Batman Begins that most people do. Batman Returns was not about Batman. Yes, when you get superficial you can still say "It's a guy with batears". Yes, yes, yes. A Batman who shots around with H&K firearms would still be Batman in some people's minds. I tell you what's wrong with BR: - The Penguin being a freak, raised by penguins??? That's stupid. - Non-existant story and plot, just bits thrown around - Penguin running for mayor? The Adam West show did that better. - The whole movie is there to please Burton's ego. It's not about Batman, really. That guy isn't Batman. It is a short man with a deranged minds who blows up people. Yeah, yeah, the original Bob Kane stuff. Like the guy there showed any mannerism of KeatonBatman. Yeah right. If I want to see the end30s Batman I watch "The Shadow", that's more Batman than Batman Returns, or better "Psychoman Returns With Depth"! I am versed enough. I am much older than you, I saw Batman's decline from a cool guy into a nutjob. I watched the Batman (1989) movie in the first week it came out. I experienced the hype. I liked the movie somehow, but was still a little bit alienated by Keaton and his portrayal. Liked Jack Nicholson. The plot was thin, but okay. The visual style rocked for a Gotham City where Batman just started. But Batman Returns? I sat there and thought WTF??? every 5 minutes. Batman is a COOL GUY. A guy you WANT to be. A guy you COULD be (but in reality you can't, but you can think that). That was a constant factor. From 1939 to the mid-90s. But then (and in the Burton movies) Batman became a pathetic loser, a guy who never came to terms with his past. Yeah right. Before it was only a motiviation, then it became madness. Yeah, but Sam Hamm thought of Batman as an insane guy, so what is to wonder about those movies?