Logan Logan - news & discussion - Part 1

[Roose Bolton]

I don't see why they would tbh since i am pretty sure most of it will be on wolverines story progression since X1 since yno its his movie and perhaps patricks xavier to a certain degree and that relationship.

The majority of the focus of the marketing will be on hugh jackmans last run as wolverine after 16 years or something.

X and Wolverine were the most well developed of the original X-Men characters, they've appeared more often than any of the other OT cast members and this is the last one for both of them, so yes, I do believe they will market this film as the end of an era within the franchise.

 

[Ruth Fisher]

Prof X looking so bad
Maybe Logan will have to put him down in the movie, like a dog.

Hope not though!

 

[Golgo-13]

Wolverine's hands are cut up; healing factor not what it used to be..?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Logan will have to take care of Professor X's personal needs. "I'm the best there is what I do, and what I do is clean up after the Professor".

 

[Havok83]

Show some respect for your elders

 

[EnDz0n3]

Wondering why Caliban and hoping they don't stray too far away from Apocalypse's version. The last thing this franchise needs is another version of the same character.

Love the title and the poster.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Wondering why Caliban and hoping they don't stray too far away from Apocalypse's version. The last thing this franchise needs is another version of the same character.

Love the title and the poster.

Yeah, I am literally surprised to hear about Caliban.
Of all possible characters, a new version of Caliban is appearing.

Heck, even the worst thing is that the one version is shown in a 2016, and then literally a new version is shown 10 months later in 2017 in next movie of the franchise.

Why Caliban out of all the characters??

 

[anthony1111]

This isn't trying to open a debate or anything but I don't think Fox is not as collaborative between their X-Men movies as Marvel or DC are in terms of their shared universe.

We had The Wolverine chronicle Jean's death and have Wolverine lose his claws and set out on a new adventure with a sidekick to have it all erased from history and glossed over in Days of Future past.

They retconned Colussus for Deadpool and then they also introduced Caliban in Apocalypse who they are now retconning again. I feel like Fox allow the directors of X-Men to do their own version of the story without worrying about continuity at this stage.

 

[Havok83]

That's why franchise is a mess. It was only good with the first 3 films in terms of the continuity but after that they were like F it and just did their own thing with each film, ignoring or contradicting what came before. Way too many inconsistencies

 

[-JKR-]

This isn't trying to open a debate or anything but I don't think Fox is not as collaborative between their X-Men movies as Marvel or DC are in terms of their shared universe.

We had The Wolverine chronicle Jean's death and have Wolverine lose his claws and set out on a new adventure with a sidekick to have it all erased from history and glossed over in Days of Future past.

They retconned Colussus for Deadpool and then they also introduced Caliban in Apocalypse who they are now retconning again. I feel like Fox allow the directors of X-Men to do their own version of the story without worrying about continuity at this stage.

Which I think is cool. At least one studio who allows their directors to do their thing, and let them treat these movies like 100% proper movies.

 

[Dark Raven]

At the end of this Wolverine film series, they can market the box set as Logan's Run.

 

[DavidHaller]

This isn't trying to open a debate or anything but I don't think Fox is not as collaborative between their X-Men movies as Marvel or DC are in terms of their shared universe.
....
They retconned Colussus for Deadpool and then they also introduced Caliban in Apocalypse who they are now retconning again. I feel like Fox allow the directors of X-Men to do their own version of the story without worrying about continuity at this stage.

Still, I found this behavior utterly stupid. I do not need a large shared universe where every decision of the filmmaker is supervised but for me this situation expresses simply arrogance of the filmmaker: "I'm the director, this is my movie and I decide which actor I cast for my movie role." Caliban is 'X-Men: Apocalypse' was such a great cameo and perfectly cast.

It is such a minor and easy thing to keep in mind with character has been used before. And let's not pretend it is important that this movie character will be Caliban from the comics. He will have a minor unimportant role and could get replaced by many other possible characters from the comicbooks. I bet he will again have barely anything in common with his comic counterpart. Will he be a Morlock living in the tunnels of New York? I doubt that. So why using him and making the universe so confusing? The character in 'X-Men: Apocalypse' was even called Caliban, so why recasting him for 'Logan'. I just don't get it.

I understand this decision for Colossus but not for some unimportant cameo...

 

[Havok83]

Which I think is cool. At least one studio who allows their directors to do their thing, and let them treat these movies like 100% proper movies.

proper movies? What the heck does that even mean?

 

[-JKR-]

Director's driven movies. Without a need to force their storytelling into a universe. Like Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was, for example.

I'm glad Tim Miller was able to just go with whatever take he had on Deadpool and the X-Men (for example, Colossus).

So, if James Mangold wants Stephen Merchant (who kicks a**, by the way) as Caliban in Logan, I'm completely fine with it.

My brain won't connect to memories of the Caliban of X-Men Apocalypse. I'm perfectly able to process each movie on their own.

Movies are a director's medium, and that's what makes the greatest movies so special. A great vision.

 

[BlackFox]

Director's driven movies. Without a need to force their storytelling into a universe. Like Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy was, for example.

I'm glad Tim Miller was able to just go with whatever take he had on Deadpool and the X-Men (for example, Colossus).

So, if James Mangold wants Stephen Merchant (who kicks a**, by the way) as Caliban in Logan, I'm completely fine with it.

My brain won't connect to memories of the Caliban of X-Men Apocalypse. I'm perfectly able to process each movie on their own.

Movies are a director's medium, and that's what makes the greatest movies so special. A great vision.

So your saying sledgehammered in You Tube videos for random characters to set up a universe is not great storytelling instead.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think it's part fox but mostly the producers that allow the directors to do different versions of the same characters, I am pretty sure they are the ones who basically outs argue with the directors to do something different.

Apparently in this universe 2 versions of each character exist, no more then 2 though, we don't wanna be unreleastic ;p

 

[marvelrobbins]

Which I think is cool. At least one studio who allows their directors to do their thing, and let them treat these movies like 100% proper movies.

the problem goes back to last stand when ratner went his own way with phoenix.still surprised singer sticked to his phoenix with DOFP and Apocalypse.
Hood with origins didn't really stick to singer's version of aklai lake.he even
said on audio commantary he wanted his own version of aklai lake.Vaughn
was probally the worst when dealing with other films.Miller with deadpool
didn't play nice with X-Men films considering he used f word to describe
colossus in full X-men films.

Mangold in both his wolverine films kind of it seems ignore X-men to some extent.Singer in DOFP tried to merge the first 7 films in franchise together although there was a picking and choocing when it came to origins.

fox post rothman is more letting director do film they want.of course when they saw rough cut for FF they pnacked and tried to salvage it under kinberg's watch.

MCU films are more like a tv series with Feige as showrunner.

could X related films do with better cordination between the films yes.but it's
not a problem to say at bryan singer.I would say he respects other films
more than other directors do.Especilly since with both DOFP and apocalypse he respected the ratner version of phoenix.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The DCEU is still leading the industry when it comes to directors dictating the film's vision.

 

[P Supreme]

was at NYCC yesterday and you had to really search for any x-men related merchandise it was almost a taboo subject when you even ask why but Deadpool was represented well but the "core" xmen were non existent only for the people that came in dressed as them other than that Nothing

 

[-JKR-]

The DCEU is still leading the industry when it comes to directors dictating the film's vision.

Not really, considering that Warner Bros watered down and hacked David Ayer's vision for Suicide Squad to pieces.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Wait, this is set a year after DoFP? How did everyone age so much in one year?

2023 : all x-men are teachers, all goods.

2024 : Logan fails/Xavier losts his memories. They lost a little part of their power. What happens

Xavier wears a mask/make-up ??? Patrick Stewart is not as old as that

 

[Axl Van Sixx]

Coming in a little late, but I absolutely love the title Logan, and the images and script sample all make me really excited for this movie.

As others have mentioned, it's a ballsy move by Fox to not include the word "Wolverine" in the title. There's a historical parallel here, and that is The Dark Knight, the first Batman movie not to feature the word "Batman" in the title. That movie, of course, went on to re-define the superhero genre, and is commonly perceived as a great film in general, more than merely a "superhero movie". I think that's what Mangold and Jackman are going for here.

The Wolverine itself often felt like it was going for this, and at times almost felt like an artsy indie film. Unfortunately, the climax devolved into a generic CGI battle against a man in a giant metal suit, and of course, the filmmakers pulled their punches on the depiction of onscreen violence (e.g. when Logan throws a guy out a window and he lands in a pool). From the script page Mangold posted, they're very consciously trying to avoid falling into that trap.

All of it is great news for a movie that I honestly kept forgetting was even being made. Suddenly I'm really interested to see the film for more than the fact that it's Jackman's last turn in his signature role. It feels like they're sincerely trying to do something different.

 

[danoyse]

was at NYCC yesterday and you had to really search for any x-men related merchandise it was almost a taboo subject when you even ask why but Deadpool was represented well but the "core" xmen were non existent only for the people that came in dressed as them other than that Nothing

It's been like that the last few years, unfortunately.

I'm going tomorrow, wasn't expecting to find that Logan poster anywhere.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Xavier wears a mask/make-up ??? Patrick Stewart is not as old as that

The character is likely meant to be older then what patrick actually is though.

 

[marvelrobbins]

It's been like that the last few years, unfortunately.

I'm going tomorrow, wasn't expecting to find that Logan poster anywhere.

quite honestly doesn't do anygood to bellyace about it anymore.it's same thing as the presidential election.2 terrable choices.

for older fans like myself or as i like to cal old men and women of X-Men fandom who can remember when marvel cared lol we have our comic book collection of the great years of X-Men along with dvds or blu-rays or itunes downloads of films or animated shows we like.perhapes still have other merchandise from years past.i still have trading cards from X-Men and 2 and film magainzes of X2.

The ones they are really hurting Is younger fans.assuming marvel keeps publishing books they need younger people to buy comics.I quit buying new comics in mid 2000's when i was in early 30's.i was one of those who while marvel was in bankruptcy from 1996 to 1998 who helped them them afloat with buying tons of comics.

This film is end of era.it's untill we know for sure how the main X-Men films are prooceding going to be end of X_Men's most popular character.sorry people that is wolverine.now if they continue in past with X-men films I still think wolverine could be recast if they continue with apoclaypse cast.
But,quite honestly right now that's up in the air with all the talk after logan focusing on Deadpool,new Mutants,and X-force.Let's not get into gambit.

It will also most likely be end of one of most perfect comic book casting ever-patrick Stewart as Professor X

Even though I liked Apocalypse it's going to be sad saying goodbye to original cast.In a way Apocalypse and Logan can be called the end of 'Singerverse" that is ad to me just like end of Star Trek Deep Space Nine was begining of the end of prime universe of star trek.back in 1990's sunday nights and tuesday afternoon were big days for me.sunday new episodes of DS9 and tuesday day of new comics so I would get X related title.I also remember how is was with end of JLU was end of "Timmuniverse" of DC animated universe.

If wolverine dies at end of this film it will be worse than han solo dying In TFA.and it will rival captain Kirk dying In Star Trek Generations.