The Dark Knight LR: Has some news for us

[Retroman]

Full story confirmation of Latino Review's report from Variety.

Latifah, Holmes are in the 'Money'
Actors to star in Khouri's heist pic
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Queen Latifah and Katie Holmes are in talks to star in "Mad Money," a pic to be directed by "Thelma & Louise" scribe Callie Khouri.
Nu Millennium and Granada are financing the film.

Glenn Gers script, based on British film "Hot Money," concerns three female employees of the Federal Reserve who plot to steal money that is about to be destroyed. Khouri did a rewrite on the script; pic will shoot in Shreveport, La.

The third actress is not yet cast.

Holmes, who is making her return to acting after maternity leave, has dropped out of "The Dark Knight," Warner Bros.' Christopher Nolan-directed sequel to "Batman Begins."

Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Gary Oldman are locked for returns, and Heath Ledger is set to play the Joker in the pic, which begins shooting this spring.

Latifah recently had a role in Columbia's "Stranger Than Fiction" and stars as Motormouth Maybelle in New Line's upcoming bigscreen version of "Hairspray."

Date in print: Fri., Jan. 26, 2007, Los Angeles

Source: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117958130.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

 

[Seen]

Awesome that both Caine and Oldman are confirmed to return.

As for the whole Holmes issue, I suspect that the Nolans and Goyer approached the story and script for THE DARK KNIGHT under the impression that Katie Holmes would be returning. Since filming is close to beginning, perhaps Holmes reconsidered her desire to continue participating with the franchise and opted out. Most likely scenario, if you ask me.

So I take this as more of a curveball for THE DARK KNIGHT crew than anything else. I don't think they can easily remove the Rachel character because we don't know if she provides a pivotal role to the script or not. And since filming is, like I said, so close to commencing rewriting the script to remove Rachel might provide to be difficult and further delay the production which I know we all do not want (nor will it happen).

This is unfortunate, as I wished for if the character of Rachel was to have been kept for Holmes to have stayed on, but it was her decision to leave, for whatever reason. It's probably too late to just remove the character so we'll have to live with a recasting. Not something we all wanted, but that's life.

 

[Jack Napier]

I don't think Rachel Dawes would need to be in the sequel unless her character is killed off. If Katie Holmes backed out, they could re-write another character aside from Dawes into the film. However, if she does indeed get killed in the movie, why the hell would Jennifer Connelly or any of these suggested actresses take the part? They'll be playing the part Katie Holmes turned down, and their character dies within one movie. Anyways, recasting Rachel Dawes is like in Godfather III, putting George Hamilton in because we wouldn't notice Duvall wasn't.

And another thing, Katie Holmes was not as bad in BB as you lot make her out to be. She slapped Bruce twice in that scene because Nolan told her to, not because it was her idea as an actor, so don't blame the "awkwardness" of that scene on her. Nolan auditioned the girl and was convinced she was best for the part. Don't condemn his entire vision and think YOUR casting choice fits into the film better than the choice he made.

 

[Jack Napier]

Awesome that both Caine and Oldman are confirmed to return.

As for the whole Holmes issue, I suspect that the Nolans and Goyer approached the story and script for THE DARK KNIGHT under the impression that Katie Holmes would be returning. Since filming is close to beginning, perhaps Holmes reconsidered her desire to continue participating with the franchise and opted out. Most likely scenario, if you ask me.

So I take this as more of a curveball for THE DARK KNIGHT crew than anything else. I don't think they can easily remove the Rachel character because we don't know if she provides a pivotal role to the script or not. And since filming is, like I said, so close to commencing rewriting the script to remove Rachel might provide to be difficult and further delay the production which I know we all do not want (nor will it happen).

This is unfortunate, as I wished for if the character of Rachel was to have been kept for Holmes to have stayed on, but it was her decision to leave, for whatever reason. It's probably too late to just remove the character so we'll have to live with a recasting. Not something we all wanted, but that's life.

As much as I hate the idea of a recast, you're right. If Holmes turned down the part she turned it down for good. The production can't wait for her, so they might as well pick another actress. I know I don't want to wait any longer for TDK.

 

[zer00]

I don't think Rachel Dawes would need to be in the sequel unless her character is killed off. If Katie Holmes backed out, they could re-write another character aside from Dawes into the film. However, if she does indeed get killed in the movie, why the hell would Jennifer Connelly or any of these suggested actresses take the part? They'll be playing the part Katie Holmes turned down, and their character dies within one movie. Anyways, recasting Rachel Dawes is like in Godfather III, putting George Hamilton in because we wouldn't notice Duvall wasn't.

And another thing, Katie Holmes was not as bad in BB as you lot make her out to be. She slapped Bruce twice in that scene because Nolan told her to, not because it was her idea as an actor, so don't blame the "awkwardness" of that scene on her. Nolan auditioned the girl and was convinced she was best for the part. Don't condemn his entire vision and think YOUR casting choice fits into the film better than the choice he made.

Hey you see that?

over there?

It's reality

you don't see it?

well that's okay we all can't see it I guess

 

[Boom]

Matt Damon turning down the role: Never been a big fan of his, so I'm not disappointed.

Lucas, Norton, and Fox in the running: Give it to Lucas or Norton.

Rachel being recast: If it's a minor role, it's not a big deal to me. I'm still hoping she gets offed by The Joker. Definitely would intensify Batman's hatred toward The Joker. Is it necessary to be recast? If the character still serves a purpose and Holmes declined, then yes. Holmes was the weakest link of the first movie. If she passed on the role, then I don't know what some of you want Nolan to do. If he wants Rachel in the movie, then there's no other option.

 

[chamber-music]

Matt Damon turning down the role: Never been a big fan of his, so I'm not disappointed.

Lucas, Norton, and Fox in the running: Give it to Lucas or Norton.

Rachel being recast: If it's a minor role, it's not a big deal to me. I'm still hoping she gets offed by The Joker. Definitely would intensify Batman's hatred toward The Joker. Is it necessary to be recast? If the character still serves a purpose and Holmes declined, then yes. Holmes was the weakest link of the first movie. If she passed on the role, then I don't know what some of you want Nolan to do. If he wants Rachel in the movie, then there's no other option.

Most likely the reason Holmes didn't want to come back was because her character would of been killed off or her role would have been much smaller with Joker and Harvey Dent in the movie. Holmes probabley wants staring roles in movies now her profile is higher now shes miss cruise.

 

[Crooklyn]

Awesome that both Caine and Oldman are confirmed to return.

As for the whole Holmes issue, I suspect that the Nolans and Goyer approached the story and script for THE DARK KNIGHT under the impression that Katie Holmes would be returning. Since filming is close to beginning, perhaps Holmes reconsidered her desire to continue participating with the franchise and opted out. Most likely scenario, if you ask me.

So I take this as more of a curveball for THE DARK KNIGHT crew than anything else. I don't think they can easily remove the Rachel character because we don't know if she provides a pivotal role to the script or not. And since filming is, like I said, so close to commencing rewriting the script to remove Rachel might provide to be difficult and further delay the production which I know we all do not want (nor will it happen).

This is unfortunate, as I wished for if the character of Rachel was to have been kept for Holmes to have stayed on, but it was her decision to leave, for whatever reason. It's probably too late to just remove the character so we'll have to live with a recasting. Not something we all wanted, but that's life.

If that's true....ugh.

Both parties are at fault here. Nolan and co. shouldn't have written Rachel in if they weren't 100% sure Holmes would be back. They should've secured a contract first.

And regardless of what happened...thumbs way f'n down to Holmes. She SAID many times she would absolutely do a sequel if they ask her back. And now she opted out. Don't go into a damn lucrative franchise if you're not willing to stay.

This recasting sh1t sucks balls.

 

[Milkman95]

I see this is an opportunity to improve on the Rachel character - once again, the character is still there, so this argument that it breaks continuity doesn't fly with me.

Hopefully with a better actress in there, this character will only improve. Her boy Cruise probably banned her from the franchise due to Scientology.

 

[ultimatefan]

I´m personally not crazy about the character remaining and being played by another actress, but since it happened... HIlary Swank, anyone?

 

[Milkman95]

I´m personally not crazy about the character remaining and being played by another actress, but since it happened... HIlary Swank, anyone?

I don't see what the big deal is, at least it's not the main character this time.

Rachel McAdams.

 

[Crooklyn]

I´m personally not crazy about the character remaining and being played by another actress, but since it happened... HIlary Swank, anyone?

Recasting is bad enough...now you want the character to look 10 years older?

 

[Batman jr.]

I don't care that Holmes won't be in TDK. It's not a movie about her character. It's not "The Dark Dawes".

 

[Milkman95]

I don't care that Holmes won't be in TDK. It's not a movie about her character. It's not "The Dark Dawes".

Exactly, this re-casting is no big deal at all. If it was Oldman, Caine, or Bale being replaced, then yes, it would be a problem. But I see this as an opportunity for improvement now....

 

[Gonking]

this is from Coming soon

UPDATE: No Katie Holmes for The Dark Knight
Source: Latino Review January 25, 2007

Latino Review has posted an interesting scoop saying that Harvey Dent will definitely appear in The Dark Knight while Katie Holmes will no longer play Rachel Dawes, though the character remains.

Click here to check out the casting news!

Variety has confirmed that Katie Holmes has dropped out of The Dark Knight.

 

[Crooklyn]

Exactly, this re-casting is no big deal at all. If it was Oldman, Caine, or Bale being replaced, then yes, it would be a problem. But I see this as an opportunity for improvement now....

If it wasn't a big deal, most of us wouldn't be bringing it up.

As for a better opportunity, yes, it's an opportunity for a better well-rounded cast. Holmes is dead to this franchise, let her character die with it. I don't see why they can't just rename the character and do a few small rewrites. Unless Rachel's role in this film is largely based on what happened in the first...I just can't imagine why she has to stay.

 

[ultimatefan]

I don't see what the big deal is, at least it's not the main character this time.

Rachel McAdams.

Yeah, I know, it´s more of a continuity thing for me. And the fact I didn´t feel her character was necessary for the sequel. But of course she´s not the main character and Katie´s no Scarlet Johannson or Kate Winslet anyway, so it´s not like it´s a terrible loss.

 

[Milkman95]

Yeah, I know, it´s more of a continuity thing for me. But of course she´s not the main character and Katie´s no Scarlet Johannson or Kate Winslet anyway, so it´s not like it´s a terrible loss.

That's exactly my point - it's not a huge loss at all and her character can be improved with a better actress.

 

[Darknightnomis]

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I thought Katie holmes held her own quite well in 'Batman Begins' and I didn't mind if she was in 'The Dark Knight'.

And For continutiy sake I was hoping she would play the character again if Rachel was in the sequel. Personally I hope they write the character out and bring in another Love interest. Silver St. Cloud perhaps.

Still, regards of who replavce her or get the part of Harvey Dent, IN NOLAN I TRUST.

 

[El Payaso]

I guess LR's report has some validity after all.

And I don't understand why they don't remove the character of Rachel unless she is vital to THE DARK KNIGHT script. If so, I'm a bit pissed that Holmes dropped out.

You said it, she's probably vital to TDK.

And another thing, Katie Holmes was not as bad in BB as you lot make her out to be. She slapped Bruce twice in that scene because Nolan told her to, not because it was her idea as an actor,

You were there? por have any link to back your words up?

Nolan auditioned the girl and was convinced she was best for the part.

He was obviously wrong.

Don't condemn his entire vision and think YOUR casting choice fits into the film better than the choice he made.

I just condemn Homes' acting. I don't even have a name for Rachel but I can smell a poor acting when I see it.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Eastern European Heavy - tough bad guy mobster, 40s-50s

the Penguin maybe?


probably just wishful thinking...

 

[Hunter Rider]

He was obviously wrong.

IYO

 

[Hunter Rider]

If that character was VITAL to this script then i wonder what the hell kind of script it is,the only important thing Dawes could do it introduce Bruce to Dent and there are plenty of ways to do that

 

[Crooklyn]

It has to be something that affects Bruce in a big way, because that's something a new character would not be able to bring.

 

[Van Petrol]

Still not too happy about this recasting thing. But if thats what has to be done, it has to be done I guess.