Make a New Avengers Cartoon!

[DawnWarrior]

Another thing I'm trying to figure out is how to include Hercules on the show. Basically, I just need to figure out how to make him different from his Godly comrade and rival, Thor. On JL, they distinguished the two warrior women, Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl, by making Shayera a bit more of a savage.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Play up Thor's nobility and Hercules' drunken tomfoolery. Where Thor is a highly respected if somewhat arrogant member of his pantheon, Hercules is basically the unstable black sheep of his. He may fight nobly, but he's an uncontrollable lecher in everything else.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Play up Thor's nobility and Hercules' drunken tomfoolery. Where Thor is a highly respected if somewhat arrogant member of his pantheon, Hercules is basically the unstable black sheep of his. He may fight nobly, but he's an uncontrollable lecher in everything else.

Thank you! That sounds about right. You would think that Thor would be the savage, since he's the VIKING god. Another thing I'd like to play up is the fact that Thor is stuck on Earth (via Don Blake), but Herc is not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but Stan Lee took a decidedly romantic notion of the viking gods when he put Thor into the Marvel universe. There's a lot of chivalry and Arthurian morality in Marvel's Asgard.

A cool idea for an episode featuring Thor and Herc would be if Thor is whining about being stuck on Earth as Don Blake while Herc, who's free to go where he chooses, thinks he's crazy because Herc actually chooses to stay on Earth, citing that it's a hell of a lot more fun than Olympus. Ultimately, of course, Thor comes to appreciate Earth more in the end.

 

[3dman27]

i like the sound of that

 

[Steve Rogers]

This is cool and all, but I'd prefer a live action series. Or at least a cartoon intended for older people, not that kiddie crap Fox gave us in the 90's.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Live-action would be prohibitively expensive.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Live-action would be prohibitively expensive.

Way I look at it is if HBO could pull off Rome, they could probably do the Avengers. I certainly don't think network TV could pull it off, and even if they did they'd screw it up so badly even I wouldn't watch.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess they could, but they never would. No one's gonna shell out the amount of cash it'd take to make a live-action Avengers show look as great as it deserves to. Maybe someone could squeeze out enough money for a solo live-action hero's show with a decent budget, but an entire team of them is too much.

 

[Steve Rogers]

I guess they could, but they never would. No one's gonna shell out the amount of cash it'd take to make a live-action Avengers show look as great as it deserves to. Maybe someone could squeeze out enough money for a solo live-action hero's show with a decent budget, but an entire team of them is too much.

Oh, I'm not saying it will happen, but if it were done right, it would be great. I mean most TV shows have like 15 or so people in their cast, so that lends itself to a hero team right there. But, yeah I ain't holdin' my breath waiting for one.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it would be cool. I'd even be pretty happy if they cut the roster down to just a few key players--Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Wasp--and just had the rest come on every now and then as guest stars. Your boy Lewis could play Cap, even. For a movie I don't think he's right, but for TV he could work.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Yeah, but he's busy with his own TV show right now.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If it manages to survive the relatively low ratings and lack of material due to the writers' strike. I love the show, but I doubt we'll get a second season, unfortunately.

 

[Hypestyle]

growl... I'd love to see a 'real' Avengers animated series, but the way Marvel chops up its individual hero properties, stupid legal red tape gets in the way.. and for whatever reason, Marvel has historically been more accommodating to network demands than the Warner-DC toon production staff..

 

[Steve Rogers]

If it manages to survive the relatively low ratings and lack of material due to the writers' strike. I love the show, but I doubt we'll get a second season, unfortunately.

Really? I was under the impression that it was doing well, and as far as I know, it will be unaffected by the strike, unless the strike is not resolved in two months (I assume it will be though)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

All I've been hearing lately from entertainment news sites is how Journeyman and Life are not doing so great. I think Journeyman's worse off than Life, but neither is where NBC wants them to be. I hope you're right and that it does get a second season, though.

growl... I'd love to see a 'real' Avengers animated series, but the way Marvel chops up its individual hero properties, stupid legal red tape gets in the way.. and for whatever reason, Marvel has historically been more accommodating to network demands than the Warner-DC toon production staff..

Marvel's stopped "chopping up" its properties. All of their characters, except the ones who had licensing deals in place already, are being developed for other media through Marvel Studios now. I'm pretty sure that allows Marvel to retain the rights even if other companies develop them, meaning they can have characters cross over with each other more now.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

Avengers TAS

Captain America
Iron Man
Hawkeye
Ms. Marvel
Wasp
Giant-Man
Thor

Season 1
Episode 101- Avengers Assemble!, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, Wasp, Giant-Man, and Thor come together to fight the hulk only to find it’s a plot of Thor’s brother Loki to beat his bother. End scene is a fishing boat finding a man in a block of ice.

Episode 102 and 103- Old Solders, when a fishing boat owned by Tony Stark finds a man in a block of ice he calls in the Avengers to investigate. What they find is Captain America, as he recounts his last days before being found an old enemy returns. Baron Zemo and old foe of Captain America’s forms a team to take on the Avengers. To engage Captain America's companions, Zemo enlisted Thor's enemy the Radioactive Man, Iron Man's adversary the Titanum Man, and Giant-Man and the Wasp's nemesis the Black Knight, and lures the Avengers into battle on the streets of New York. Although his accomplices were subdued, Zemo escapes.

Episode 104- Swordsman and the Circus of Crime
Episode 105- Trial of the Hulk (Guest Staring She Hulk)
Episode 106- Wrecking Crew
Episode 107- Super-Adaptoid

Episode 108- Hydra (Guest Staring Spider-Woman, and Nick Fury) The Avengers must stop Hydra’s new agent “spider-woman” from killing SHIELDS Director Nick Fury.

Episode 109 and 110- Return of the Masters of Evil (Guest Staring Wonder Man, the Grim Reaper, the Executioner, and the Enchantress)

Episode 111, 112, and 113- Lost in Time The Avengers are summoned to deal a huge UFO that lands in Central park. The pilot is Kang, and after he beats Thor by sending him into limbo he take the Avengers hostage he demands that the world be turned over to him. But when the Avengers get free and try to stop Kang he sends them into the time-stream. Captain America, Hawkeye, and Ms. Marvel end up back in the 1800's and team up with the Rawhide Kid, Kid Colt and the Phantom Rider. While Iron Man, Wasp, and Giant-Man end up back in the late 1940's and team up with the All Winners (Captain America (II), Human Torch (I), Miss America, Whizzer) to fight the Future Man. while Captain America, Hawkeye, and Ms. Marvel help the Rawhide Kid, Kid Colt and the Phantom Rider, Iron Man, Wasp, and Giant-Man along with the All Winners stop Future Man. Iron Man and Giant-Man use the Future Man’s time ship to find Thor and the others and take them back to the present and stop Kang.

Season 2
Episode 201- *Ultron
Episode 202- *Vision
Episode 203- Ant-Man (II)
Episode 204- Squadron Supreme
Episode 205- Return of Wonder Man (Guest staring, The Reaper, and the Vision)
Episode 206 and 207- Supreme Soviets (Guest Staring the Black Widow and the Red Guardian)
Episode 208- AIM (Nick Fury and Sharon Carter)

Episode 209 and 210- Enemies and Friends (Staring- Captain America, Wasp, Hawkeye, and Ms. Marvel
Guest Staring- Jack Monroe "Bucky", Red Skull)
Jack Monroe a young man who idolizes Captain America is given the Super-Soldier serum that had given Captain America his abilities and is brainwashed into thinking that he is the real Bucky by the Red Skull. He is then sent to Captain America to gather information on the avengers unfortunately Monroe didn’t undergo the stabilizing "Vita-Ray" process used on the original Captain America. As a result, despite his body being enhanced to peak human efficiency he grows paranoid and dangerously insane. Slowly the brainwashing starts to fail and Monroe starts to have flashes of the Red Skull and begins to attack every one around him. Soon he finds himself on the run is found by the Red Skull again but Monroe gets the drop on the Skull and takes him hostage. Monroe calls Cap for help and when the avengers get there they find Monroe with the bound and beaten Skull. But when Monroe hands over the Skull he uses a trigger to make Monroe attack Cap. But with Monroe’s mind being so fractured Cap over powers him, while Wasp, Hawkeye, and Ms. Marvel stop the Skull. In the end Monroe is placed in stasis and the Skull is freed by AIM while being transported to the vault.

Episode 211, 212, and 213- Secret Wars Part 1, 2, and 3 (, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk, She-Hulk, Spider-Man, Wrecking Crew (Bulldozer, Piledriver, Thunderball & Wrecker), Galactus, Dr. Doom, Enchantress, Absorbing Man, Ultron and the Molecule Man, Klaw, Titania, Volcana.) Earths heroes and villains are transported to the battle world to fight for the Beyonder to see witch is stronger good or evil.

 

[Steve Rogers]

^I'd watch that.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

^I'd watch that.

thanks

 

[3dman27]

but don't you think the supreme soviets are outdated?

 

[Jordacar]

Not bad. Personally, I'd never have the guts to change the founders like that. The "Lost in Time" episode would be awesome, but I'd probably save it for season 2 (tho I'd still intro Kang in season 1).

The Jack Monroe ep sounds wicked. Is that from the comics or did you think that up?

And of course, SECRET WARS!!!! I can't believe I didn't think of that. I thought it was stupid the way they did that on the Spider-Man 'toon. I only want to see WARS as an Avengers arc, or as a stand-alone DTV event.

I agree with DawnWarrior that JLU and the whole Timm-verse is the best model for an Avengers toon. The drama deserves to be on par with a prime-time series rather than a run-of-the-mill Saturday morning kids show.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

Not bad. Personally, I'd never have the guts to change the founders like that. The "Lost in Time" episode would be awesome, but I'd probably save it for season 2 (tho I'd still intro Kang in season 1).

The Jack Monroe ep sounds wicked. Is that from the comics or did you think that up?

And of course, SECRET WARS!!!! I can't believe I didn't think of that. I thought it was stupid the way they did that on the Spider-Man 'toon. I only want to see WARS as an Avengers arc, or as a stand-alone DTV event.

I agree with DawnWarrior that JLU and the whole Timm-verse is the best model for an Avengers toon. The drama deserves to be on par with a prime-time series rather than a run-of-the-mill Saturday morning kids show.

as long as you have cap, iron man, and Thor i feel that the rest is up for grabs as team members go. but thats just me.


Jack Monroe was more or less the comics only set in the now and adding the skull. there was another story where the skull did use bucky as a way of getting to cap but it was a LMD or something so i just combined the two.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

as long as you have cap, iron man, and Thor i feel that the rest is up for grabs as team members go. but thats just me.

As much as I love Thor, he's been on and off the Avengers so often that I don't think he's a truly necessary presence. Cap, Iron Man, the Vision, and the Wasp are the characters I would consider must-haves for any Avengers team. Cap's the leader, Iron Man's the brains, the Vision's the heart, and the Wasp is probably the Avenger who's grown the most over her years on the team.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

but don't you think the supreme soviets are outdated?

i would have them as a cold war team that is reactivated.

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

As much as I love Thor, he's been on and off the Avengers so often that I don't think he's a truly necessary presence. Cap, Iron Man, the Vision, and the Wasp are the characters I would consider must-haves for any Avengers team. Cap's the leader, Iron Man's the brains, the Vision's the heart, and the Wasp is probably the Avenger who's grown the most over her years on the team.

and thats fine, i wouldn't have thor in every episode. i would fallow the model of JL and JLU for the stories by not having all the avengers in every episode.