Comics Man, if MJ dies then thats it...

[kguillou]

Peter'll never fall in love again after this. I mean its sort of like a "fool me once, fool me twice" situation. His first true love died (gwen) now if they decide to kill his second TRUE love then that it. I dont see peter coming back from this. Mary Jane is like his driving force to stay alive. I think thats how he managed to dig his way out of kraven's grave. If MJ dies, there can never be another woman for peter like her. I mean, they've been together since the 70's for god's sake! I dunno, what do y'all think?

 

[Kevin]

i love mj, but i'm tired of the whole "the marriage as a mistake" thing. just kill her already.

 

[Malus]

Sheesh. All this kill or not kill... Howabout she wisely decides to leave him? Or she and Aunt May go into the witness protection program after this which is what would happen.
Just write her out. No need to burn any bridges.
Peter's family having to go into deep hiding because of his mistake is traumatic enough for the guy.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Sheesh. All this kill or not kill... Howabout she wisely decides to leave him? Or she and Aunt May go into the witness protection program after this which is what would happen.
Just write her out. No need to burn any bridges.
Peter's family having to go into deep hiding because of his mistake is traumatic enough for the guy.

Aloha,
That could be a very good plotline. If SHEILDor the police took them into "Protective Custody" only Spidey giving up to the gov't would allow him to see them again.Then again, I still think a cosmic Mind Wipe is going to happen in the Marvel Universe within the next two years.
Spidey rules

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

I hate MJ almost as much as most posters on here love her. The two people currently on a Spider title who can write her, are doing that perfectly in their alternate universe titles. JMS is alright, nothing really impressive though besides making her a stage actress. J.M. Dematis was amazing as well, but he aint even near the "big two" right now. My problems with her all began with her suddenly getting married to Peter about two days after he had sex with Felicia. Granted, the whole troubled childhood thing, and knowing all along worked well and could have actually been a workable thing, had the characters settled down later. Getting them married within one issue to make sure Stan Lee didn't upstage them with his strip. Not cool.

Here are some of my other issues with MJ

1. Gwen Stacy: Gwen outshines her and always will. A problem that arises by killing off one of the most beloved love intrests of all time.

2. MJ as a famous actress: Yeah we can all relate to the everyman, who's wife is a TV star and is on more magazines them Jen and Angelina combined.

3. She's a *****: Running out of idea's with the character, we had MJ take up smoking, have a partial affair, and the always favorite, whine at Pete for saving the world, while you sit on your ass and watch "As the World Turns".

Not to mention her dialouge is pure ****. Nobody talks like a 1930's film noir. Just doesn't happen.

However, In every incarnation of Spidey, there is an MJ. Ultimate, MC2, The Movies, Games, Hot Pockets, one thing doesn't exist without the other. Which is why any divorce, death, breakup, will never, ever work. We'll hate Joey Q and keep on reading , but eventually she'll come back

Which is why we must support the Spidey/Pryde, relationship to get rid of that redheaded ****e once and for all! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Seriously though it would be really stupid to get rid of her now.

 

[Dragon]

Peter'll never fall in love again after this. I mean its sort of like a "fool me once, fool me twice" situation. His first true love died (gwen) now if they decide to kill his second TRUE love then that it. I dont see peter coming back from this. Mary Jane is like his driving force to stay alive. I think thats how he managed to dig his way out of kraven's grave. If MJ dies, there can never be another woman for peter like her. I mean, they've been together since the 70's for god's sake! I dunno, what do y'all think?

No. This is why I almost hope they do kill MJ off. I'm sick of people saying that MJ is the reason Peter lives, fights etc. That's complete bull. Pete does what he does because its the right thing. Statements like that attempt to invalidate all that he accomplished before he got together with MJ. He'll continue to fight whether she's there or not. That's another reason why I liked Peter better with Gwen. He just ewasn't written as sappy as he is with MJ. This is why these books need to be written by actual grown-ups who've had relationships. Someone who knows about life doesn't right things like "I live and fight for her".

If anything, Peter/Spider-Man was a FAR, FAR stronger character without MJ. The books were better written and more enjoyable. She's a frickin' albatross. An anchor around Peter's neck. She didn't have to be, but she is. And at this point, they've written her into a corner. She actually convinced Peter to unmask when she knows full well the consequences of such a decision. Short of shooting Peter in his sleep, she can't be written to be much dumber.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Wow. This thread took a turn I wasn't expecting to see, glad I took a chance on reading this thread. I thought it was going to be a bunch of "Quesada is teh gay and stupid" and "I'm dropping all Spider-Man titles, wah wah wah".

I highly doubt they'll kill MJ. As Donald Thomas said, there is going to be a mindwipe. MJ will forget Peter is Spider-Man and their marriage won't ever have been, which causes Peter to wear the black costume again, or at least embrace it for some reason.

Because this is my logic on the entire situation. Mary Jane, through many years in the Spider-Man books, has shown her distaste for the black costume, even in just the regular thread version. Now if she was killed or died, etc. Why in the HELL would Peter put on a costume that his wife detested so much? That would honor her memory? By wearing the costume that she HATED?

Now...a mindwipe on the other hand. That's a hell of a different situation than her dying. So, you know...

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Wow. This thread took a turn I wasn't expecting to see, glad I took a chance on reading this thread. I thought it was going to be a bunch of "Quesada is teh gay and stupid" and "I'm dropping all Spider-Man titles, wah wah wah".

I highly doubt they'll kill MJ. As Donald Thomas said, there is going to be a mindwipe. MJ will forget Peter is Spider-Man and their marriage won't ever have been, which causes Peter to wear the black costume again, or at least embrace it for some reason.

Because this is my logic on the entire situation. Mary Jane, through many years in the Spider-Man books, has shown her distaste for the black costume, even in just the regular thread version. Now if she was killed or died, etc. Why in the HELL would Peter put on a costume that his wife detested so much? That would honor her memory? By wearing the costume that she HATED?

Now...a mindwipe on the other hand. That's a hell of a different situation than her dying. So, you know...

My thinking as well...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Peter'll never fall in love again after this. I mean its sort of like a "fool me once, fool me twice" situation. His first true love died (gwen) now if they decide to kill his second TRUE love then that it. I dont see peter coming back from this. Mary Jane is like his driving force to stay alive. I think thats how he managed to dig his way out of kraven's grave. If MJ dies, there can never be another woman for peter like her. I mean, they've been together since the 70's for god's sake! I dunno, what do y'all think?

they have been married since the 70s, and iv loved every part of it.

 

[pointman]

Killing off MJ solves nothing but adds more problems. She just needs to be written properly. As for this mindwipe, I'm hoping it clears out the most recent events only. This allows for a chance of redemption to get MJ marriage to Pete done right.

There's nothing wrong with Pete being married to MJ, its just that their relationship/marriage has been poorly written. I want to see real life marriage situations. How does a celeb like MJ cope with the pressures of being married to a superhero and vice versa without underplaying/overplaying the plot senarios.

 

[Dwarf lord]

No. This is why I almost hope they do kill MJ off. I'm sick of people saying that MJ is the reason Peter lives, fights etc. That's complete bull. Pete does what he does because its the right thing. Statements like that attempt to invalidate all that he accomplished before he got together with MJ. He'll continue to fight whether she's there or not. That's another reason why I liked Peter better with Gwen. He just ewasn't written as sappy as he is with MJ. This is why these books need to be written by actual grown-ups who've had relationships. Someone who knows about life doesn't right things like "I live and fight for her".

If anything, Peter/Spider-Man was a FAR, FAR stronger character without MJ. The books were better written and more enjoyable. She's a frickin' albatross. An anchor around Peter's neck. She didn't have to be, but she is. And at this point, they've written her into a corner. She actually convinced Peter to unmask when she knows full well the consequences of such a decision. Short of shooting Peter in his sleep, she can't be written to be much dumber.

She's been around since the mid 70s. I doubt you've been reading that long, so what you're saying is Spider-Man hasn't been enjoyable since you've been alive. Which makes me question why you're a fan at all?

 

[The Joker]

As Donald Thomas said, there is going to be a mindwipe. MJ will forget Peter is Spider-Man and their marriage won't ever have been, which causes Peter to wear the black costume again, or at least embrace it for some reason.

Oh good god!

 

[ragingdemon155]

I love MJ and the marriage. Her and Peter together are my favorite couple in all of comics.

But damn its getting so damn annoying to hear Marvel constantly blame the Marriage for Spidey's problems. In the process of doing that, there pretty much ignoring all the other current problems.

Seriously if Joey Q is going to continue to rant on this marriage then just kill it off already. Etiher do that or stop complaining.

 

[3dman27]

I love MJ and the marriage. Her and Peter together are my favorite couple in all of comics.

But damn its getting so damn annoying to hear Marvel constantly blame the Marriage for Spidey's problems. In the process of doing that, there pretty much ignoring all the other current problems.

Seriously if Joey Q is going to continue to rant on this marriage then just kill it off already. Etiher do that or stop complaining.

or better yet get out of marvel

 

[kguillou]

Wow, I got some real mixed messages in this thread, lol. But do you guys think that if they do kill MJ, that Peter will be able to find another love equivalent to her?? I mean i dont think another relationship would be possible after this. MJ's been around soo long, she's practically a part of the whole Spider-Man franchise.

 

[Vile]

I think they should kill Pete and have MJ don the Iron Spidey suit.

...What?

....Okay okay, I stopped collecting years ago. I just wanted to post in the comic forum.

 

[Sloth7d]

or better yet get out of marvel

Even better.

 

[3dman27]

I think they should kill Pete and have MJ don the Iron Spidey suit.

...What?

....Okay okay, I stopped collecting years ago. I just wanted to post in the comic forum.

now THAT would make a good WHAT IF...

 

[Jack O Lantern]

This whole Civil War thing is going to lead to a Marvel Crisis, I'm calling it now

 

[Sloth7d]

Sure. And Sentry(already being tilted along the emo path) will punch a hole in the continum.

 

[gliderpilotgirl]

goodness sakes...wow that is some serious redhead hatred going on, from Kaine, and Dragon. and Kaine, in regards to supporting the Spider-man/Shadowcat relationship... Ultimate MJ is 10 times the girl Kitty is. The only thing Kitty has going for her is being a genetic rarity with a mutation. Bendis has written an MJ to put other ones to shame.
Anyways..I think most of our bad feelings would be better directed at the writers/editors..they are the ones who have made it so bad.
Someone on the Bendis board had a smart idea..I don't see it happening, but they said, that Quesada heaped on the hate on Speedball, and said he was dead, and now he's being written well, and is certainly not well. What if he's faking us all out, and actually has something acceptable planned?

 

[Dragon]

She's been around since the mid 70s. I doubt you've been reading that long, so what you're saying is Spider-Man hasn't been enjoyable since you've been alive. Which makes me question why you're a fan at all?

Uh...........................................Why would I say such a thing if I haven't read the comics? To clarify- the first issue of Spider-Man I bought was ASM #127 back in 1973. I've been reading Spidey ever since.

 

[Dragon]

goodness sakes...wow that is some serious redhead hatred going on, from Kaine, and Dragon. and Kaine, in regards to supporting the Spider-man/Shadowcat relationship... Ultimate MJ is 10 times the girl Kitty is. The only thing Kitty has going for her is being a genetic rarity with a mutation. Bendis has written an MJ to put other ones to shame.
Anyways..I think most of our bad feelings would be better directed at the writers/editors..they are the ones who have made it so bad.
Someone on the Bendis board had a smart idea..I don't see it happening, but they said, that Quesada heaped on the hate on Speedball, and said he was dead, and now he's being written well, and is certainly not well. What if he's faking us all out, and actually has something acceptable planned?

I don't hate MJ. I hate the misinterpretation of Spider-Man due to the bad writing of this relationship. Anyone who thinks MJ is the reason he exists doesn't get the character. And if that were all there was to Spider-Man, he wouldn't have lasted very long.

 

[kguillou]

I guess its back to Black Cat again. sheesh. things are not looking good for MJ. What is wrong with Marvel, i mean seriously, are they just determined to keep Spiderman from growing up? First they kill his baby, now they're gonna kill his wife? Do they not want peter to ever have a family?

 

[Source]

Okay..I just wanted to clarify something....Peter and MJ have been married since 1987 (Amazing Annual #21)...next summer will be the twentieth anniversary of that....20 years....no other character can boast of having a marriage that long...(Mr.Fantastic and Invisible Woman dont count because for awhile there werent any FF issues coming out)..I love Mj....she is special...true her character at time should have been written better, but thats not "her" fault....If you ask someone off of the street about Spider Man's girl...4/5 will say Mj...that leaves 1/5 with Gwen or other...I have the article here somwhere if I can find..I'll post it....Gwen was important to Peter..he loved her......but not as deeply as MJ...for one point....they have more history..20 years before marriage...and 20 years after....No other woman will ever compare to that...Marvel might try..I wont put it past them...but none will...we've been down this road before...it never works....as for Kitty....She is part of the Ultimates universe..so she doesnt even register in the 616 continium...Dragon and Kaine have good points...but everyone is going to have a difference of opinion..especially me....I've noticed those who hate MJ usually want two things....for Spider Man to do nothing but fight villians...or have a new girl each month (Black Cat,random girl..etc)...If all you want is mindless violence..then buy a Hulk issue...all violence no real plot...Spider Man is never going to be that kind of character (just going from one fight to the next)...I hope MJ survives...and they dont do a mindwipe that erases her memories of her marriage..yeah..that will go over well..just like the Clone Saga...where we were told that the Spider Man we had been reading for 30 years wasnt the true Spider Man...how did that turn out??...oh yeah..fans hated it...protested..and in time..everything was put back the way it once was....I get the impression that thats going to happen here...Marvel (JQ) is going to do something radical to shake up spider man and get young readers...but as more time passes..and it utterly tanks...then quietly write it off as a dream sequence..or an alternate reality...and continue with Spider man the way it is now.