The Amazing Spider-Man Marc Webb to return?

[SpiderMarvelite]

I think that, if we have another director, we'll have a first movie experience again. That is, it'll be his first movie handling the character, so it'll be his testing to see what works and what doesn't.
With Webb, he'll already have that experience. The way I see it, we have a bigger chance of getting a much better second movie with him than without him.

Exactly.

He will have more expirence, people love his vision for Spider-Man. LET HIM CONTINUE HE KNOWS WHAT HES DOING.

Geez, SONY have no idea what there going to do taking him out.

 

[shauner111]

I personally dont think it matters. Webb or a new director. Whoever it is, they'll have to step up their game from TAMS. Trim those corny elements out of it.

They got so many things right with the casting and with Peter/Spidey, and Gwen, and some of the action. Yet they made a lot of horrible choices. The Lizard and his design and motivations? It was OK at best but who cares? It was too lame and they need to step up their game for the sequels. The crane part in the story? Stupid. The score? Generic and lazy. These are all choices that Webb could have tried to change but he didn't. Same with the writers.

There needs to be a change like it or not. Even if you liked those parts, the idea is to do better for the next movie. So i can care less if they sack Webb. As long as they keep the good stuff going and learn from the mistakes of Amazing Spider-Man it'll be better.

 

[Donut]

I hope Sony is not wondering why they are struggling financially. They should stop making stupid decisions

 

[Jexx]

You mean you don't care less.

And I actually loved the Lizard design, and his motivations made sense, considering the fact that he wanted to make people better, and the lizard serum was affecting his brain making him think that it was right to turn everyone into Lizard-Men to make them all 'superior'. At the end, I thought it was a nice moment when he helped Peter up and showed that he had his humanity again.

I loved the crane scene, and I loved the score (which I don't think was generic OR lazy, especially since it deviates from Horner's previous works a lot).

Ultimately, the general audience probably likes those things more than it doesn't. So that means that Webb pretty much has to stay, especially since he made the characters more realistic from Raimi's take.

 

[Jexx]

There's pretty good evidence that suggests so. Marc Webb has stated he wasn't extremely happy about the way the film turned out in editing and theres this picture which pretty much sums it up...

-snip the dafuq huge image-

I say make the next one fail and let the rights revert to Marvel if he really pushes Webb out. I mean look at the story...it's really bland. The thing that drove the movie was the way we cared about the characters and the technical aspects that, while important, come from the director and the actors. Arad needs to learn he can't have his cake and eat it too anymore.

I don't think that that was one of the scenes that Webb thought absolutely should of been in, he seemed more excited about the first date between Gwen and Peter. (I also liked the story)

 

[LegendAssemble]

I personally dont think it matters. Webb or a new director. Whoever it is, they'll have to step up their game from TAMS. Trim those corny elements out of it.

They got so many things right with the casting and with Peter/Spidey, and Gwen, and some of the action. Yet they made a lot of horrible choices. The Lizard and his design and motivations? It was OK at best but who cares? It was too lame and they need to step up their game for the sequels. The crane part in the story? Stupid. The score? Generic and lazy. These are all choices that Webb could have tried to change but he didn't. Same with the writers.

There needs to be a change like it or not. Even if you liked those parts, the idea is to do better for the next movie. So i can care less if they sack Webb. As long as they keep the good stuff going and learn from the mistakes of Amazing Spider-Man it'll be better.

A new director means a new vision, a new person behind the lens, someone with a new idea. No matter how you spin it, it's a different feeling despite being the same franchise. Take X3 for example, we don't want that, especially with this pull for "more action". The best sequel comes from a director and a cast who've seen their work on screen and have an established universe set up and are ready to jump right in. X-Men 2, Spider-Man 2, and The Dark Knight are great examples of this.

The only thing I can see this working is if you keep him on a producer to help mold the film and keep the tone and greater vision intact, but bringing in a more classically trained directer, like they did with Empire Strikes Back.

Either way I can't believe you're fine with the studio screwing the fans and this man over like this. We were told we lost Raimi for something better, when in reality we only lost him because he wasn't a good enough puppet, and we shouldn't be okay with them continuing to screw Spider-Man! We haven't reached it yet but we are headed for a Transformers style heartless Spider-Man in the very near future if we don't stop giving money to these corrupt execs!

 

[LegendAssemble]

I don't think that that was one of the scenes that Webb thought absolutely should of been in, he seemed more excited about the first date between Gwen and Peter. (I also liked the story)

I'm sure it might not have been but that was a MAJOR plot point, in the current cut Dr.Raffa just disappears and we get NONE of the untold story that we were marketed in the trailers.

It would have been like if Warner Bros. took the part where Joker kidnaps Rachel and Harvey, but then we cut out everything but Harvey's scene with no dialogue, and they edit out any reference to her for the rest of the film. What the hell happened to Dr.Raffa after the bridge!?

I watched the movie 3 or 4 times and I noticed there were no shots of Garfield looking at Conners computer and further more there were no wide shots of a Garfield in the lab when he was listening to the audio, only closeups. Which leads me to believe this was done through a great deal of editing and a series of last minute reshoots.

 

[Jexx]

What? There is NO proof that the Dr. Raffa in the sewers scene had anything to do with genetic tampering. That's just a rumor that for some reason a lot of people treat like fact.

 

[LegendAssemble]

What? There is NO proof that the Dr. Raffa in the sewers scene had anything to do with genetic tampering. That's just a rumor that for some reason a lot of people treat like fact.

I disagree, why else would they cut an action scene of the lizard which was probably very expensive to render out of the movie and leave a plot hole with Raffa for no reason unless it was because we weren't happy on the web about the genetic tampering? It's not a fact but regardless it was obviously a huge plot point and probably where Raffa died so that should NOT have been cut.

 

[Jexx]

Because Ratha could of been telling Peter that they left the door to the Spider-Room (the spider-room specifically not the area where they are packaging the bio-cable) unlocked so that the spiders would land on Peter and one would bite him.

I feel like that they wanted to leave that plot line to the sequel, and so they want to leave him alive in the sequel.

That's my theory anyway, I guess it could be either, but there is no hard evidence that supports either one, since they're both possible.

 

[Mike]

Again i think some people are either going in sour because its a reboot or didnt really pay attention. Lizards motives were a pretty good take. He didnt want anyone to feel what he felt, he wanted equality. "All these lost souls lost and alone i can save them i can cure them!" He really wasnt a villain just lost himself. But i wanted a snout lol webb has an outstanding grasp on human behavior. For a comic book movie this was crazy on how much i cared for the characters. How much more i wanted when it all ended. Webb must return.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Again i think some people are either going in sour because its a reboot or didnt really pay attention. Lizards motives were a pretty good take. He didnt want anyone to feel what he felt, he wanted equality. "All these lost souls lost and alone i can save them i can cure them!" He really wasnt a villain just lost himself. But i wanted a snout lol webb has an outstanding grasp on human behavior. For a comic book movie this was crazy on how much i cared for the characters. How much more i wanted when it all ended. Webb must return.

Nice post. I agree. I'm hoping Webb will return to be able to continue the solid groundwork that he has laid with ASM. He did a fantastic job with the characters and their relationships. I was surprised by how well he handled the action scenes too. They were on a much smaller scale than what Raimi did but the editing was great and each encounter had significance and weight to them...I'm excited to see how Webb can develop his action skills as well.

 

[Jexx]

Thank God you don't make movies.

I love insults, they taste good.

 

[Spuzz]

Again i think some people are either going in sour because its a reboot or didnt really pay attention. Lizards motives were a pretty good take. He didnt want anyone to feel what he felt, he wanted equality. "All these lost souls lost and alone i can save them i can cure them!" He really wasnt a villain just lost himself. But i wanted a snout lol webb has an outstanding grasp on human behavior. For a comic book movie this was crazy on how much i cared for the characters. How much more i wanted when it all ended. Webb must return.

Totally agree with you.

 

[Resistance61513]

This is a pretty dumb idea but whatever I'll run with it...

I was thinking about making a tweet to Sony Pictures and tag Marc Webb in the tweet. It can be something generic like,

"Retweet this if you think Marc Webb deserves a second shot at Spider-Man"

blah blah blah then try and start a movement where Spidey fans, who agree that not having Webb would be a disservice to the character, retweet it. If executed right, it could start some small buzz. Nothing substantial but it would be cool. Sony would see that Webb has an established following now and maybe Webb, cause I know he checks his twitter, would get a second wind.

Just a thought...

 

[Marvel Spider]

This is a pretty dumb idea but whatever I'll run with it...

I was thinking about making a tweet to Sony Pictures and tag Marc Webb in the tweet. It can be something generic like,

"Retweet this if you think Marc Webb deserves a second shot at Spider-Man"

blah blah blah then try and start a movement where Spidey fans, who agree that not having Webb would be a disservice to the character, retweet it. If executed right, it could start some small buzz. Nothing substantial but it would be cool. Sony would see that Webb has an established following now and maybe Webb, cause I know he checks his twitter, would get a second wind.

Just a thought...

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but these don't work, sadly.

 

[LegendAssemble]

I think we should just stop paying attention to Sony movies for awhile, start a petition to boycott any film they release until Amazing 2, and until Arad stops meddling with artistic vision. I see right through that bs about "being on the message boards" of coarse he is, thats how he knew we'd shell big bucks if Sam shoved Venom into Spider-Man 3 and probably why he cut the untold story after the backlash.

Giving the fans what they want doesn't mean doing what they say, it means doing what's best and we can't know whats best if we don't even know exactly what it is we're getting.

 

[Jexx]

The untold story is still in the movie... as it will be in the rest of the trilogy.

 

[Mike]

The untold story is still in the movie... as it will be in the rest of the trilogy.

A ton of people dont realize this

 

[©KAW]

It's because they're slow, isn't it?

 

[LegendAssemble]

A ton of people dont realize this

They cut out a crucial part of the movie, I don't understand how anyone can defend that? Especially since we really didn't get much of an untold story, there have been stories told about Peters parents.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Exactly.

He will have more expirence, people love his vision for Spider-Man. LET HIM CONTINUE HE KNOWS WHAT HES DOING.

Geez, SONY have no idea what there going to do taking him out.

Maybe you do and maybe quite a bit on these boards, but I'm not really loving his take yet and that's because we haven't seen a whole light of Webb's vision on his take of Spider-Man. Re-doing the origin, giving us a pretty underdeveloped Lizard...I want to see his take on a sequel that will obviously be HIS own vision without obviously seeming like a hour of the movie is riding along Raimi's film.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

Maybe you do and maybe quite a bit on these boards, but I'm not really loving his take yet and that's because we haven't seen a whole light of Webb's vision on his take of Spider-Man. Re-doing the origin, giving us a pretty underdeveloped Lizard...I want to see his take on a sequel that will obviously be HIS own vision without obviously seeming like a hour of the movie is riding along Raimi's film.

So far I love it.

 

[LegendAssemble]

Maybe you do and maybe quite a bit on these boards, but I'm not really loving his take yet and that's because we haven't seen a whole light of Webb's vision on his take of Spider-Man. Re-doing the origin, giving us a pretty underdeveloped Lizard...I want to see his take on a sequel that will obviously be HIS own vision without obviously seeming like a hour of the movie is riding along Raimi's film.

But the thing is he didn't have a great deal of control over that and the next director probably won't either. So what made the movie work was the way Webb shot and directed the actors, as well as his choices in music to instill emotions. We were bordering on disaster with that movie, and the generally dull plot is more than proof, but Webb made it something special.

The man really deserves to have his Spider-Man 2 to play in the sandbox he's set up!

 

[Oscorp]

To me, Webb's origin is easily different enough that calling it "riding along Raimi's film" is ignorant if you ask me.