The Amazing Spider-Man Marc Webb to return?

[Web of Blanco]

Well if Webb doesn't come back, he could always serve as an executive producer. That said I want him back to complete his story..and please NO MORE REBOOTS!! Not for another 20 years...I wish.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Didn't Uncle Ben give Peter the same exact speech he gave him in the Ultimate comics? That's what I have heard, so if anything, Uncle Ben said more of the right lines in TASM than in SM1

Yes, the speech Uncle Ben says in ASM is pretty much lifted straight from the Ultimate comics.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Exactly. If there isn't a sequel, The Amazing Spider-Man isn't that great of a film to watch. I came into the theatre knowing that Webb planned this story that this first film is just one chapter of.

It's nothing like BB where that Joker card could just be an easter egg; this film leaves open Uncle Ben's death with his killer being out there still, Osborn dying, someone mysterious visiting Dr. Connors, Peter's parents being in part of some conspiracy apparently.

It's like when Green Lantern ended and we saw Sinestro pick up the yellow ring, but we'll never see what happens next. Or Superman Returns where we'll never know what will happen with Clark's son.

Agreed 100%... Agreed, agreed, agreed! This movie got the origin out of the way, and planted a ton of seeds. Now we can get the ball rolling in the sequels. Without a continuation, then this film is pretty much worthless and forgettable. Just to point out, I enjoyed this film a lot, and appreciate this new franchise that has been created. But we won't know if the new franchise is better than Raimi's until the next movie.

This film has given Webb's Spider-Man universe so much potential. Let's just wait another two years and see. First step... finding out who the villain is, and the cast of some new characters (Norman, JJ, Mary Jane, Harry Osborn, etc).

 

[LegendAssemble]

People who get it. Watch and learn LegendAssemble.

You have Amazing Spider-Man rated above the Dark Knight. It was an "Okay" stand alone film at best. The reason it's good is because it has so much potential as a first chapter. There isn't that much cheesy stuff in the Raimi films for kids, minus a few lines here and there. It's something that can be appreciated by all ages. Personally I think Amazing 2 has potential to be better than SM2, but it's wrong to say Amazing is better than SM1 or SM2 as a stand alone film. You can say the characterization is better or it was more fun, but if the franchise were to end now, it wouldn't work at all. Also I loved the Avengers, stop making assuptions about people who have dissimilar opinions.

Also I wasn't referring to your acting abilities that would be ludicrous. I find movies interesting and I always wanted to be director when I was growing up and it's very easy for me to see when a directors heart is in the character and when emotion is put into making the film. Theres a lot of that in Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 (as opposed to say the Star Wars prequels). Tobey also did a pretty good job putting himself into Peter and acting believably in the first two film. All the disillusion begins with 3.

 

[Jexx]

Actually, I would enjoy TASM as a standalone film, but that's mostly because of my nature...

Hell, if Sony decided not to make TASM sequels I would probably write fanfiction to continue the story on my own. :/

 

[Web face]

Yes, the speech Uncle Ben says in ASM is pretty much lifted straight from the Ultimate comics.

That's pretty cool. I personally think that the classic "With Great Power there must also come Great Responsibility" line can and should be changed from who says it to what the exact words are just as long as the message is the same. In a way, Spider-man is a symbol responsibility and growing up.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't mean to compare SM1 with the 2003 Hulk film, but both were good standalone movies. Hulk wasn't that bad as just a film... it was just very slow, and wasn't true to the comic books. But it was creative, had some beautiful cinematography, and well-developed characters. There wasn't a sequel to the movie, but it didn't "need" one (not because it was bad, but the story in that one movie concluded). Spider-Man 1 was basically the same thing. The story of him becoming Spider-Man and learning responsibility was basically resolved, and you could just interpret whatever happens next. Heck, you could say the same thing about The Punisher or Dardevil. If there was no Spider-Man 2 (which would have made me upset), we could still say there was a good Spider-Man film out there.

With Amazing Spider-Man, he does become Spider-Man, but it really feels like its just chapter one. Heck, if anything, it feels like the introduction. I almost feel as if the Lizard wasn't needed. A main villain could have been Kingpin or someone smaller, and perhaps he could have been the boss of Uncle Ben's killer, which would lead Peter to his organized crime group. It would have also maintained that "grounded" feeling Marc Webb was going for. I could imagine the Kingpin asking Peter to join him, and really put him to the test: "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility."

 

[UltimateWebhead]

That's pretty cool. I personally think that the classic "With Great Power there must also come Great Responsibility" line can and should be changed from who says it to what the exact words are just as long as the message is the same. In a way, Spider-man is a symbol responsibility and growing up.

Yeah I agree. It's not so much those exact words as it is the message that is sent and received. Also, it should be noted that the "with great power comes great responsibility" did not originate with Spider-man. It originally was used in a french novel called Voltaire. That same line has also been used by Winston Churchill.

 

[grieven]

Actually, I would enjoy TASM as a standalone film, but that's mostly because of my nature...

Hell, if Sony decided not to make TASM sequels I would probably write fanfiction to continue the story on my own. :/

I also would enjoy TAS as a standalone film, but I'd also be heartbroken to not get to see the ensuing chapters.

 

[spider-neil]

My worry is ASM not making as much as Sony had hoped they will interfere even more with the sequel.

 

[Web face]

Yeah I agree. It's not so much those exact words as it is the message that is sent and received. Also, it should be noted that the "with great power comes great responsibility" did not originate with Spider-man. It originally was used in a french novel called Voltaire. That same line has also been used by Winston Churchill.

That's interesting. A french novel created Spider-Man's most famous quote and I didn't even know it existed. It is a pretty simple quote though. Meaningful, but simple.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

The thing with TASM is that it is a setup movie. If there was no Spider-Man 2, then SM1 would have at least been a good film on its own. Without a TASM2, it would feel so incomplete.

But if this movie didn't get a sequel, then please let the rights go back to Marvel.

Well said. This movie really needs a good sequel to fill more things in.

 

[LegendAssemble]

My worry is ASM not making as much as Sony had hoped they will interfere even more with the sequel.

Theres always going to be interference. I give up at this point, if the rights revert to Marvel you still wouldn't have the Spider-Man I doubt it would be much different. The problem with Sony is they've had success interfering.

Look at the original trilogy's figures, guess which one's made the most and least money world wide? Spider-Man 3, the least well received had the best box office figures, and Spider-Man 2, the best received superhero film until the Dark Knight, made the least.

Most likely Webb will come back because we're demanding it, just like we demanded Venom, and just like we got pissed about the genetic tampering (I know theres no proof but really? You're far too naive if you believe that wasn't an important scene). Arad know's were fanboys an we'll shell out big bucks for whatever appeases our fanboy egos.

I think we'll get something similar to what we had this time around, and with the doubts cleared about quality (and no Avengers/Dark Knight competition) it's bound to be a much bigger hit. I can only hope it's more of a solid stand alone film than a pilot for a TV series.

 

[Oscorp]

You have Amazing Spider-Man rated above the Dark Knight. It was an "Okay" stand alone film at best. The reason it's good is because it has so much potential as a first chapter. There isn't that much cheesy stuff in the Raimi films for kids, minus a few lines here and there. It's something that can be appreciated by all ages. Personally I think Amazing 2 has potential to be better than SM2, but it's wrong to say Amazing is better than SM1 or SM2 as a stand alone film. You can say the characterization is better or it was more fun, but if the franchise were to end now, it wouldn't work at all. Also I loved the Avengers, stop making assuptions about people who have dissimilar opinions.

Also I wasn't referring to your acting abilities that would be ludicrous. I find movies interesting and I always wanted to be director when I was growing up and it's very easy for me to see when a directors heart is in the character and when emotion is put into making the film. Theres a lot of that in Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 (as opposed to say the Star Wars prequels). Tobey also did a pretty good job putting himself into Peter and acting believably in the first two film. All the disillusion begins with 3.

You don't seem to understand me at all.

I wasn't denying that you love Avengers, where did I say that? What I meant with "People who got it, watch and learn!" is that they understand this thing called opinion.

All you say in the first paragraph is nothing but opinions. You write as if what you think is fact and that I am wrong. I don't care what others think or what you think, my opinion is that ASM is the by far better movie compared to all the Raimi films, and slightly better than TDK. Just deal with it. Learn what the **** opinion is. Look up the word and try to understand it. What's even the point of making reviews of films or whatever if you have to go by rules that says "This film is for fact better than that one". Why are people even discussing then? I wouldn't go as far as to say you're stupid, but I think narrow minded is the fitting word here. You can like Raimi's films more for all you want, but accept that people think differently about stuff and take different things to heart.

 

[Jexx]

I think it has a lot to do with what our mindsets are.

I myself, would feel satisfied with TASM as a stand alone film even if Sony doesn't make a sequel, BECAUSE I would be compelled to continue the story on my own.

Some would continue the story on their own because they don't like it as a stand alone film.

I'm a person that likes filling in the holes, lol

 

[Picard Sisko]

There is a difference in filling in the plot holes and watching a movie with story arcs that are never resolved.

 

[Jexx]

Hmmm...

so.. are you trying to change my mindset?

 

[Lorus]

Hmmm...

so.. are you trying to change my mindset?

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'd imagine what he's trying to get across is that the difference between leaving a plot hole and leaving an unresolved story arc is the concept of catharsis. Plot holes are largely irrelevant in a good film because the story/character arcs are resolved and provide a satisfying emotional climax, a sense that you have finished a journey you started. If entire plot points are dropped, then there is an overall sense of emptiness because you don't feel that anything has been accomplished.

Essentially, the story or character arcs are the train tracks and the plot points and minutiae of events are the extent to which the tracks are maintained. A plot hole here and there can make a journey rocky, but you'll reach your destination anyway. If the tracks stop though, you're just stranded.

That's my take anyway, even if its not his.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'd imagine what he's trying to get across is that the difference between leaving a plot hole and leaving an unresolved story arc is the concept of catharsis. Plot holes are largely irrelevant in a good film because the story/character arcs are resolved and provide a satisfying emotional climax, a sense that you have finished a journey you started. If entire plot points are dropped, then there is an overall sense of emptiness because you don't feel that anything has been accomplished.

Essentially, the story or character arcs are the train tracks and the plot points and minutiae of events are the extent to which the tracks are maintained. A plot hole here and there can make a journey rocky, but you'll reach your destination anyway. If the tracks stop though, you're just stranded.

That's my take anyway, even if its not his.

Words taken right out of my mouth!

 

[Anno_Domini]

Actually, I would enjoy TASM as a standalone film, but that's mostly because of my nature...

Hell, if Sony decided not to make TASM sequels I would probably write fanfiction to continue the story on my own. :/

If you're into fanfiction and what not, then that's great for you, but if I don't see a physical sequel, then TAS-M will be unwatchable.

 

[Jexx]

Damn.. that's pretty horrible.. I can't see how anyone could find it unwatchable if there wasn't sequel. :/

 

[LegendAssemble]

Damn.. that's pretty horrible.. I can't see how anyone could find it unwatchable if there wasn't sequel. :/

because it leaves you feeling unresolved, you don't know what happened to his parents why he didn't transform and you have the whole after credits scene, plus he's still learning at the end of the movie. It's just not a stand alone film.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

It'd be like reading a really good Harry Potter book and then all of a sudden JK Rowling stops making them.

 

[Picard Sisko]

If you're into fanfiction and what not, then that's great for you, but if I don't see a physical sequel, then TAS-M will be unwatchable.

Exactly. Now once again I'm not bashing TASM, I loved it, but without a sequel... I will forget about it in time.

 

[grieven]

It'd be like reading a really good Harry Potter book and then all of a sudden JK Rowling stops making them.

I wouldn't go so far as to call it unwatchable, but I agree with all the sentiments that it will severely hurt the first film by not having any followups.

Anyway it will get the sequels, we know that. Question is whether Webb will be directing them, and my prayers are that he will.