Martin Campbell is Directing Green Lantern

[mclay18]

Why must it always be an "us vs them" mentality? If Marvel gets it right then WB/DC will get it wrong; if WB/DC get it right then Marvel will get it wrong.

Here's a novel thought - they could both get it right. Look at 2008 - two Marvel flicks and one WB/DC flick, and all three got it very, very right.

Absolutely.

But it seems that for the last part of 2008 and currently 2009, Marvel's rushing through things too quickly. IM took over a decade to make it to where it is now: a solid and viable film franchise. Then when Marvel saw dollars rolling in during IM's opening weekend, they rushed to pick the hot summer spots for the rest of their superhero franchises -- most of them without a cast, crew, or script available. (Sure they have stars, directors and writers for several of them now, but I think Marvel is going to shoot themselves in the foot with their rush to get things off running.) Lots of things have hit pre-production of IM-2 in their rush to get it started for May 2010, whereas Warners has produced the ultimate superhero movie and they are justifiably taking their time.

Warners has taken their time with developing these properties (sometimes WAY too long), but at least when WB sets their movie dates they have a director, script and production date set. By the time GL hits screen, it'd have been 3 years in the making since Berlanti and his co-writers pitched it before the WGA strike.

I'm not saying Warners is necessarily the better studio for producing new superhero franchises, but at least TDK isn't encouraging Warners to rush other DC properties out into movies just to make a quick buck. They're really thinking these through.

 

[Chewy]

Absolutely.

But it seems that for the last part of 2008 and currently 2009, Marvel's rushing through things too quickly. IM took over a decade to make it to where it is now: a solid and viable film franchise. Then when Marvel saw dollars rolling in during IM's opening weekend, they rushed to pick the hot summer spots for the rest of their superhero franchises -- most of them without a cast, crew, or script available. (Sure they have stars, directors and writers for several of them now, but I think Marvel is going to shoot themselves in the foot with their rush to get things off running.) Lots of things have hit pre-production of IM-2 in their rush to get it started for May 2010, whereas Warners has produced the ultimate superhero movie and they are justifiably taking their time.

Iron Man in its current iteration was only being developed since April 2006. It had been in development hell for years, yes, but that was under other studios like New Line. When Marvel got back the rights they sat down, figured it out, and got it done. It was basically on the same schedule IM2 is operating under.

The films that don't have scripts/crews are the ones that are scheduled for 2011. There's plenty of time and they are currently being worked on.

 

[GL's Light]

I like both DC and Marvel films and don't like the rivalry some fans engage in either. But it's not a matter of DC/Marvel rivalry to assess whether studios give films enough time to be made with care.

While Warners has often been haphazard in their development process, they have at least given their superhero films good production schedules and a lot of resources (sometimes too much so in terms of spending). Columbia has likewise taken very good care of the Spider-Man films (at least from a budget and scheduling point of view). Fox, on the other hand, has often made its superhero films rather carelessly and on schedules that are so short that quality suffers.

Marvel Studios is very new and is pursuing an extremely ambitious production slate. The schedules they've set are a little worrisome in terms of whether they've allowed enough time, but I hope they pull it off and make great films.

 

[Chewy]

I like both DC and Marvel films and don't like the rivalry some fans engage in either. But it's not a matter of DC/Marvel rivalry to assess whether studios give films enough time to be made with care.

Normally I'd agree. But some people (and I'm looking at you, Fat Tonie) seem to be trying to make it into just that.

 

[Octoberist]

I like both DC and Marvel films and don't like the rivalry some fans engage in either. But it's not a matter of DC/Marvel rivalry to assess whether studios give films enough time to be made with care.

While Warners has often been haphazard in their development process, they have at least given their superhero films good production schedules and a lot of resources (sometimes too much so in terms of spending). Columbia has likewise taken very good care of the Spider-Man films (at least from a budget and scheduling point of view). Fox, on the other hand, has often made its superhero films rather carelessly and on schedules that are so short that quality suffers.

Marvel Studios is very new and is pursuing an extremely ambitious production slate. The schedules they've set are a little worrisome in terms of whether they've allowed enough time, but I hope they pull it off and make great films.

agreed

 

[mclay18]

The films that don't have scripts/crews are the ones that are scheduled for 2011. There's plenty of time and they are currently being worked on.

I do think it's more sensible for all movie studios in general to have a solid start date and a locked cast/crew before announcing a release date. That's what worried me when I first saw the announcement for IM-2.

Otherwise, you'd be encountering a situation Marvel is now when Warners announces in-production films like Inception and HP8 for the same date against two of their heavyhitter titles.

 

[Chewy]

I don't believe Inception has a locked cast either. It is in basically the same position as Thor production-wise.

And it's not as though this is the first time something like this has ever happened. QoS was originally scheduled to open opposite IM.

 

[The Major]

I'm not saying Warners is necessarily the better studio for producing new superhero franchises,

It isn't.

but at least TDK isn't encouraging Warners to rush other DC properties out into movies just to make a quick buck. They're really thinking these through.

Thinking things though is fine. But they need to do some serious housecleaning to get their lesser DCU franchises in order from their side. A film franchise with good potential will never be a success if the people making it are screwing up the process. They shouldn't rush but neither should they do nothing. There needs to be positive movement otherwise they're spinning their wheels for nothing.

 

[mclay18]

And it's not as though this is the first time something like this has ever happened. QoS was originally scheduled to open opposite IM.

Yes, but when they announced it, they had no completed script -- just a date with Daniel Craig attached. And then you have Paul Haggis rushing to complete the rewrite before the WGA strike in late 2007 after Purvis and Wade submitted their draft in April 2007. Then when they started filming, it was in mid-to-late January.

They could've had the film completed and in the can by May, but the schedule would've had to start much earlier. Even with the mid-November release, QOS felt rushed like the editors couldn't linger on each indidivual angle for more than a few seconds -- one of the biggest detractors of the movie and it felt like Forster said "I don't care which takes you use -- just make sure you make it fast!". The plot itself wasn't that much either.

I think even if Inception and/or HP 7.2 wasn't scheduled for those release dates, Marvel and Paramount would've probably delayed them to allow for more breathing room and post-production time. Depending on how CGI-reliant Thor is, it might need more post-production time.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Glad to hear about the release date. But I have a bad feeling about it. What if they decide to do what they did with Star Trek and release it in the following summer? Wouldn't that suck? I hope it gets released earlier, but at least it has a release date now. Probably won't see a trailer this year then. Damn.

 

[Octoberist]

i think the best possiblitiy for a trailer would be with Sherlock Holmes

 

[Lobo]

^I agree. Christmas 09 would be ideal for the teaser.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Or the the second last Harry Potter flick a month beforehand.

 

[Zacky]

Glad to hear about the release date. But I have a bad feeling about it. What if they decide to do what they did with Star Trek and release it in the following summer? Wouldn't that suck? I hope it gets released earlier, but at least it has a release date now. Probably won't see a trailer this year then. Damn.

the thought of a trailer. http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn194/Zacky18/****.gif

 

[I Am The Knight]

Hmmm, didn't expect a winter release, but at least that means Campbell or whoever directs GL has more breathing room now.

 

[Keyser Soze]

The one bad thing is, I'm going to San Diego Comic-Con this year, and had a faint hope I might see something GL-related. It was always a slim chance, but if the release is December 2010 now I'd say its no chance.

 

[Octoberist]

i would think that Green Lantern will have more of a presense at comic con 2010

 

[REDophile]

Warners seem to be more careful about release dates these days. Batman films traditionally open in June, but they waited for July to release TDK. Watchmen wrapped a while back, but its finally coming next week. With GL out at this December release they have a great window to build the hype after filming.

 

[Octoberist]

pretty much, they could start a new thread with the winter season.

Just like how Harry Potter, and more so Lord of the Rings, did with their releases.

 

[mclay18]

Glad to hear about the release date. But I have a bad feeling about it. What if they decide to do what they did with Star Trek and release it in the following summer? Wouldn't that suck? I hope it gets released earlier, but at least it has a release date now. Probably won't see a trailer this year then. Damn.

Unless there's another writer's strike (which won't happen until the new contract expires in 2011), I doubt they'll move it. Or a SAG strike, which most likely won't happen because of the economic downturn.

Warners is amping up the amount of flicks they're releasing in 2010 to make up for the deficit in 2009 due to the WGA strike. Unless production on GL is delayed, I don't see Warners pushing it back to summer 2011 (Warners/NL has The Hobbit due Christmas 2011).

 

[Webhead2006]

YEa i wish both marvel and dc the best of luck with all their future films and i hope they are good and enjoying and faithful to the characters. As for marvels films like im2, thor for next yr and then cap and avengers who knows what could happen once cast and filming starts up maybe they can be shot at a faster pace then they expected them to be and it will all be good or maybe some release dates would get moved around a bit here and there. There is no way to know at this time.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Normally I'd agree. But some people (and I'm looking at you, Fat Tonie) seem to be trying to make it into just that.

When was I making it an issue??? how come whenever I make the point that you just made everyone seems to blow it off and criticize the other side soon thereafter? I agree... I never understood it.

As for the Marvel slate... I think the reason they are fast tracking... other than to make the quick buck... is that they are casting older leads for Hulk/IM and they don't want to stretch it out over a 8-10 year span. Bale is fairly young that they can pretty much go through this decade and a good portion of the next with him as Batman in his prime. Routh is young enough that they are even considering rebooting with him 5-6 years after SR. You don't want RDJ getting too old for this stuff while the franchsie is still in progress.

 

[Excel]

So I just finished the 1st draft.

That was awesome. Honestly awesome. I didnt know a thing about GL prior to either. This film is going to make W.B. a fortune, I can see why they are in no rush to get Supes going, they have this instead!

Spoiler

Im not sure of whats up...does everybody know who the main characters are, ect?

 

[Octoberist]

hopefully, they can polish the script even more since they have more time. There were parts that were to Iron Man for me, some jokes that don't pan out too well, and a silly bank robbery scene that looks inferiors to the one from Dark Knight.

I liked the script a lot, on its own merit, but I can tell the critics would eat it up if certain things dont change.

 

[TheVileOne]

Keyser, my group and I will be attending the Con this year as the color spectrum corp.