Marvel Publishing Update

[hippie_hunter]

You didn't need tie-ins to understand what was happening in the first couple issues. I don't know about now, though. I quit reading it because it sucked.

You need the Teen Titans tie-in to understand why Supergirl and Wonder Girl are attacking Air Force One. You have to have the Wonder Woman tie-in, the most recent issue began right where the last issue of Wonder Woman left off. The Catwoman tie-in appears that it is going to be necessary to understand whats going on with the terrorists.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

We don't know all of those things won't also be shown in the mini-series. Presumably they all have to tie together at some point. Also, we don't really know that all of it is necessary for the main story in the first place. If you didn't read Avengers: The Initiative, you wouldn't know why Iron Man's SPIN tech didn't work on the Hulk in WWH #1, and if you didn't read the Hulk's comic, you wouldn't know why the Hulk was standing over a bloody Hercules in WWH #2 with Angel and various other heroes looking on, but neither of those are really integral to the WWH story, which is about the Hulk vs. the four Illuminati members who sent him to Sakaar at its core.

 

[Darthphere]

Picoult's run on Wonder Woman wouldn't be so bad if it weren't a tie-in to the horrid Amazons Attack series. It's why I kinda pitty her because I think her run would have been mostly decent if she weren't forced to do this. Oh well, Simone is comming on the book soon, so it's all good.

She had like two issues that had nothing to do with Amazons Attack, and they sucked.

 

[hippie_hunter]

She had like two issues that had nothing to do with Amazons Attack, and they sucked.

They pretty much led up to Amazons Attack

 

[hippie_hunter]

We don't know all of those things won't also be shown in the mini-series. Presumably they all have to tie together at some point. Also, we don't really know that all of it is necessary for the main story in the first place. If you didn't read Avengers: The Initiative, you wouldn't know why Iron Man's SPIN tech didn't work on the Hulk in WWH #1, and if you didn't read the Hulk's comic, you wouldn't know why the Hulk was standing over a bloody Hercules in WWH #2 with Angel and various other heroes looking on, but neither of those are really integral to the WWH story, which is about the Hulk vs. the four Illuminati members who sent him to Sakaar at its core.

1. As you said, those parts aren't integral to the story. The Amazons Attack tie-ins are integral to the story.

2. Those tie-ins rock, unlike the Amazons Attack tie-ins.

 

[Darthphere]

They pretty much led up to Amazons Attack

Lead up and tie-in are two different things.

 

[Darthphere]

In June DC's Top 5 selling titles were JLA at #6, Justice at #7, Countdown at #17, Flash at #18 and Countdown again at #19. What does this tell us? Mostly, that people seem to love to hate JLA. Countdown is really not selling that badly, and people bought the Flash because of the buzz.

In May, the top 5 titles were JLA at #3, All Star Batman at #9, the last issue of 52 at #15, JSA at #16, and Countdown's first issue at #19. What does this tell us? A lot of people like the two big team titles, people will continue to buy late crap, and the weekly format up until now is still working.

Captain Stacy mentioned the big 3 before, well in May Batman sold at #24, Action Comics and Superman sold at #44, 45, 46. (Action double shipped this month) and Detective Comics all the way at #50. Wonder Woman actually outsold all these titles except Batman at #41. Worth mentioning that Superman/Batman sold at #31.

In June, Superman/Batman was the best of the titles selling at #24, Wonder Woman at #43 and Detective Comics at #44, and Superman at #45

So in conclusion, it really doesn't seem like the big 3 are really adding anything to their sales at this point. The big 3 got outsold in both months by: TEEN TITANS and GREEN LANTERN.

Yay for unnecessary analyzing!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

1. As you said, those parts aren't integral to the story. The Amazons Attack tie-ins are integral to the story.

2. Those tie-ins rock, unlike the Amazons Attack tie-ins.

Given that I'm not reading Amazons Attack anymore, I'll have to take your word on those tie-ins being integral. I suspect they're not, though. Does it really matter what Supergirl and Wonder Girl's motivations are for crashing Air Force One? All they've been lately is angry *****es, and if angry *****es had super-powers, I wouldn't be surprised to see them pwn the President's plane.

 

[The Batman]

In June DC's Top 5 selling titles were JLA at #6, Justice at #7, Countdown at #17, Flash at #18 and Countdown again at #19. What does this tell us? Mostly, that people seem to love to hate JLA. Countdown is really not selling that badly, and people bought the Flash because of the buzz.

In May, the top 5 titles were JLA at #3, All Star Batman at #9, the last issue of 52 at #15, JSA at #16, and Countdown's first issue at #19. What does this tell us? A lot of people like the two big team titles, people will continue to buy late crap, and the weekly format up until now is still working.

Captain Stacy mentioned the big 3 before, well in May Batman sold at #24, Action Comics and Superman sold at #44, 45, 46. (Action double shipped this month) and Detective Comics all the way at #50. Wonder Woman actually outsold all these titles except Batman at #41. Worth mentioning that Superman/Batman sold at #31.

In June, Superman/Batman was the best of the titles selling at #24, Wonder Woman at #43 and Detective Comics at #44, and Superman at #45

So in conclusion, it really doesn't seem like the big 3 are really adding anything to their sales at this point. The big 3 got outsold in both months by: TEEN TITANS and GREEN LANTERN.

Yay for unnecessary analyzing!

Which goes to show that DC STILL dosent know how to sell Batman and Superman properly. Spider-Man and X-Men have consistently been top 20 titles for years, and yet Supes and Bats still sell that bad?

Superman/Batman could be a top 10 title easily, but DC just gave up when Loeb left. When Action Comics by johns and donner isnt sucking, its being written by teams that, really just dont sell. Detective is a damn good title, but sadly, decent stories alone wont bring people to the book. Batman's 24 placing is decent, but again, its Batman, being written by Grant Morrison and Drawn by Andy Kubert.