MARVEL WHAT-IF: REIMAGINING SEQUELS & FILMS THAT NEVER WERE

[DGMC]

Spider-Man (2002)
Directed by David Fincher
The film features Spider-Man's fight against his nemesis, the Green Goblin. The Green Goblin abducts Spider-Man's girlfriend Gwen Stacy, and she is killed during the battle.

Jake Gyllenhaal as Peter Parker / Spider-Man

Kevin Spacey as Norman Osborn / Green Goblin

Brittany Murphy as Gwen Stacy

Topher Grace as Harry Osborn

Gary Cole as Ben Parker

Sela Ward as May Parker

Kate Mara as Mary Jane Watson

John C. McGinley as J. Jonah Jameson

Pablo Schreiber as Flash Thompson

Reg E. Cathey as Robbie Robertson

Clea DuVall as Betty Brant

Lance Henriksen as Captain George Stacy

 

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Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Directed by David Fincher
Set two years after the events of Spider-Man, the film finds Peter Parker struggling to manage both his personal life and his duties as Spider-Man, which affects his civilian life dramatically. Spider-Man must stop Dr. Otto Octavius from successfully recreating the dangerous experiment that left neurologically fused to mechanical tentacles, while dealing with feeling "blue" for Gwen Stacy to this day.

Jake Gyllenhaal as Peter Parker / Spider-Man

Kate Mara as Mary Jane Watson

John Carroll Lynch as Otto Octavius / Doctor Octopus

Topher Grace as Harry Osborn

Sela Ward as May Parker

Brittany Murphy as Gwen Stacy

John C. McGinley as J. Jonah Jameson

Jared Harris as Curt Connors

Holt McCallany as Mac Gargan / Scorpion

Elias Koteas as Adrian Toomes / Vulture

Shea Whigham as Aleksei Sytsevich / Rhino

Reg E. Cathey as Robbie Robertson

Clea DuVall as Betty Brant

 

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Spider-Man 3 (2007)
Directed by David Fincher
Kraven hunts down Spider-Man, defeats him, and seemingly shoots him dead. Kraven then buries him, and seeks to prove himself superior at his adversary's former activities. He roams New York, brutally attacking criminals. The culmination of these activities is Kraven's successful unarmed capture of The Lizard, whom Spider-Man suspects is Curt Connors. After two weeks, Spider-Man revives from the effects of the tranquilizer dart Kraven shot him with, and digs his way out of the grave. When Spider-Man confronts Kraven, the hunter does not fight back, considering himself the victor and his final point made.

Kraven then releases Lizard, who attacks Spider-Man. Lizard is able to defeat Spider-Man, but Kraven intervenes before Lizard can kill him. He allows Lizard to go free, and tells Spider-Man he can pursue him if he desires, but that Kraven's hunting days have ended. While Spider-Man goes after Lizard, Kraven retires to his home, reminiscing about his past and the peace he now feels, and commits suicide with a rifle. He leaves a confession of his burying Spider-Man for the police to find, complete with photographic proof. Spider-Man catches up with Lizard and lures him above ground, where Harry Osborn disperses an antidote cloud that restores Lizard back to normal as Connors. He turns Lizard over to the police and goes home to propose to Mary Jane Watson.

Jake Gyllenhaal as Peter Parker / Spider-Man

Russell Crowe as Kraven the Hunter

Kate Mara as Mary Jane Watson

Jared Harris as Dr. Curt Connors / The Lizard

Topher Grace as Harry Osborn

Sela Ward as May Parker

John C. McGinley as J. Jonah Jameson

Gary Cole as Ben Parker

Reg E. Cathey as Robbie Robertson

Clea DuVall as Betty Brant

 

[Frodo]

CANON FILMS PRESENTS

SPIDER-MAN THE MOTION PICTURE (1984)
Director : Joe Dante

The Cast

Peter Parker : C. Thomas Howell (The Outsiders)

Doctor Octopus : Bob Hoskins (The Long Good Friday)

Aunt May : Jessica Tandy ( The Birds, Driving Miss Daisy)

Uncle Ben : Wilford Brimley ( Cocoon )

Betty Brant : Ally Sheedy ( War Games, The Breakfast Club, Short Circuit)

Mary Jane Watson : Kerri Green (The Goonies, Lucas)

Flash Thompson : William Zabka ( The Karate Kid)

J. Jonah Jameson : R Lee Emery ( Full Metal Jacket)

Robbie Robertson : Louis Gossett Jr ( An Officer and a Gentleman , Roots)

George Stacy : Roy Scheider ( Jaws)

The Burglar : David Soul ( Magnum Force, Salem's Lot)

 

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CANON FILMS PRESENTS


SPIDER-MAN PART 2 (1985)
Director : Joe Dante

The Cast

Peter Parker : C Thomas Howell

Doctor Octopus : Bob Hoskins (The Long Good Friday)

Vulture/ Adrian Toomes : Christopher Llyod ( Back To The Future, Star Trek 3)

Kraven The Hunter : Arnold Schwarzenegger

Electro : Lance Henriksen

Mysterio : Frank Langella

Sandman : Clancy Brown

Mary Jane : Keri Green

Liz Allen : Kristy Swanson

Flash Thompson : William Zabka ( The Karate Kid)

J. Jonah Jameson : R Lee Emery ( Full Metal Jacket)

Robbie Robertson : Louis Gossett Jr ( An Officer and a Gentleman , Roots)

George Stacy : Roy Scheider ( Jaws)

Aunt May : Jessica Tandy ( The Birds, Driving Miss Daisy)

 

[Frodo]

CANON FILMS PRESENTS

SPIDER-MAN PART 3 (1986)
Director: Tobe Hopper

Spiderman / Peter Parker: C Thomas Howell

The Lizard / Kurt Connors : William Atherton

The Rhino : Brion James

The Shocker : Michael Biehn

The Scorpion : Thomas Wilson

Martha Connors : Marcia Strassman

Billy Connors : Wil Wheaton

Mary Jane : Keri Green

Gwen Stacy : Helen Slater

Aunt May : Jessica Tandy ( The Birds, Driving Miss Daisy)

J. Jonah Jameson : R Lee Emery ( Full Metal Jacket)

 

[Frodo]

CANON FILMS PRESENTS



SPIDER-MAN 4 : REVENGE OF THE GREEN GOBLIN ! (1987)
Director :Richard Donner

The Cast

Spiderman/ Peter Parker : C Thomas Howell

Gwen Stacy : Helen Slater

Green Goblin/ Norman Osborn : Ray Wise

Harry Osborn : Jon Cryer

Mary Jane : Kerri Green

Kingpin /Wilson Fisk : Paul Sourvino

Miles Warren : John Wood

Eddie Brock : Martin Kove

 

[Frodo]

CANON FILMS PRESENTS

SPIDER-MAN 5 : VENOM (1988)
Director : David Cronenberg

The Cast

Spiderman/ Peter Parker : C Thomas Howell

Venom / Eddie Brock : Martin Kove

Black Cat/ Felicia Hardy : Heather Graham

Puma : Mark Pillow

Mary Jane : Kerri Green

Harry Osborn : Jon Cryer

Flash Thompson : William Zabka

J.Jonah Jameson : R. Lee Emery

John Jameson : Bill Paxton

Aunt May : Jessica Tandy

Uncle Ben Hallucination : Wilfred Brimley

Captain Stacy Hallucination : Roy Shneider

Gwen Stacy Hallucination : Helen Slater

Kingpin /Wilson Fisk : Paul Sourvino

 

[Frodo]

CANON FILMS PRESENTS

SPIDER-MAN : MYSTERY OF THE HOBGOBLIN ! (1989)
Director : John Carpenter

The Cast

Spiderman/ Peter Parker : C. Thomas Howell

Mary Jane : Kerri Green

Hobgoblin The Puppet master / Rodrick Kingsley : James Woods

Hobgoblin The Decoy / Jason Macendale : Robert Englund

Green Goblin/ Harry Osborn : Jon Cryer

Ned Leeds :Emilio Estevez

Betty Brant : Ally Sheedy

Jean DeWolff : Rae Dawn Chong

Liz Allen Osborn : Kristy Swanson

Robbie Robertson : Louis Gossett Jr.

Aunt May : Jessica Tandy

J.Jonah Jameson : R. Lee Emery

 

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UNIVERSAL PICTURES

FANTASTIC FOREVER (1964)
Director : Terrance Young

The Cast

Reed Richards : Russell Johnson

Sue Storm : Elizabeth Montgomery

Ben Grimm : Ernest Borgnine

Johnny Storm : Tab Hunter

Doctor Doom : Christopher Lee

Alicia Masters : Patty Duke

 

[Herofan]

Spider-Man 2012
Directed by Joe Johnston
Peter Parker/Spider-Man-Logan Lerman
Mary Jane Watson-Emma Stone
Gwen Stacey-Brie Larson
Aunt May-Sally Field
Uncle Ben-Martin Sheen
Dr. Octopus-Michael C. Hall or Toby Jones
Norman Osborn-Bill Paxton
Harry Osborn-Anton Yelchin or Andrew Garfield
J. Jonah Jameson-Miguel Ferrer

 

[Peyton Westlake]

UNIVERSAL PICTURES

FANTASTIC FOREVER (1964)
Director : Terrance Young

The Cast

Reed Richards : Russell Johnson

Sue Storm : Elizabeth Montgomery

Ben Grimm : Ernest Borgnine

Johnny Storm : Tab Hunter

Doctor Doom : Christopher Lee

Alicia Masters : Patty Duke

A 60s FF4 movie, good time to choose & casting of actors in that era.
Mr. Borgnine, now that you point him out seems born to play ol' Ben.

 

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A 60s FF4 movie, good time to choose & casting of actors in that era.
Mr. Borgnine, now that you point him out seems born to play ol' Ben.

Thanks !.

I also think Borginine would have been the perfect Ben Grimm. The character he played in the film Marty is pretty close to Ben .

He could play gruff yet also play a guy with heart .

 

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UNIVERSAL PICTURES PRESENTS

THE ASTONISHING X MEN (1967)
Director : John Frankenheimer
Music : Jerry Goldsmith

The Cast

Wolverine : Clint Eastwood

Professor X : Yul Brynner

Storm : Eartha Kitt

Jean Grey : Katherine Ross

Cyclops : Don Grady

Angel : Ryan O' Neal

Nightcrawler : Alan Deleon

Colossus : Arnold Schwarzenegger

Iceman : Michael Landon

Kitty Pride : Angela Cartwright

Magneto : Christopher Plummer

Sabretooth : George Kennedy

Emma Frost : Barbara Bain

Juggernaut : Dan Blocker

Mystique : Diana Rigg

Lady Deathstrike: Nancy Kwan

Toad : Michael J . Pollard

Pyro : Edward Fox

William Stryker : Lee Marvin

Senator Robert Kelly : Fredric March

 

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SCREEN GEMS PRESENTS

THE AMAZING! SPECTACULAR ! SPIDER-MAN ! (1969)
Director : Mike Nichols (The Graduate)

The Cast

Spider-man/ Peter Parker : Tim Matheson

Gwen Stacy : Peggy Lipton

Doctor Octopus : Thomas Binkel

Aunt May : Jessica Tandy

J. Jonah Jameson : Harold Gould

Robbie Robertson : Greg Morris

 

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WARNER BROTHERS PICTURES PRESENTS

DAREDEVIL (1989)
Director : Martin Scorsese

The Cast

DareDevil / Matt Murdock : Ray Liotta

Kingpin/ Wilson Fisk : Paul Sorvino

Electra : Annabella Sciorra

Bullseye : James Woods

Ben Urich : Harvey Kietel

Jack Murdock Flashbacks : Robert DeNiro

Young Matt Murdock : Leonardo DiCaprio

Foggy Nelson : Peter Gerety

Karen Page: Bridget Fonda

 

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AMBLIN ENTERTAINMENT PRESENTS

THE AVENGERS (1992)
Director : Martin Campbell ( Goldeneye, Mask Of Zorro, Casino Royale)
Producer : Steven Spielberg
Music : John Williams

The Cast

Captain America : Brad Pitt ( A River Runs Through It, Thelma and Louise )

Iron Man : Timothy Dalton ( The Living Daylights, License To Kill)


Thor : Dolph Lundgren ( Rocky 4, Masters Of The Universe)

Bruce Banner/ The Hulk : Jeff Goldblum (The Fly, The Big Chill) , Ralf Moeller (Gladiator)

Black Widow : Isabella Rossellini ( Blue Velvet)

Hawkeye : Russell Crowe ( LA Confidential, Virtuosity)

Loki : Daniel Day Lewis ( My Left Foot, The Last Of The Mohicans )

Nick Fury : Louis Gossett Jr ( An Officer And A Gentleman, Iron Eagle)

Pepper Potts : Julia Roberts

Maria Hill : Carey Lowell ( License To Kill )

Jim Rhodes : Joe Morton ( Terminator 2 : Judgement Day )

Thanos : Powers Boothe ( Tombstone, Nixon)

 

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CAROLCO PICTURES PRESENTS

SHE HULK (1994)
Director : James Cameron
Producer : Gale Ann Hurd
Music : Brad Fidel

The Cast

Jennifer Walters / She Hulk : Calista Flockhart ( Ally McBeal) ,Lucy Lawless ( Xena : Warrior Princess, Hercules : The Legendary Journeys)

The Leader : Alan Rickman ( Die Hard, Galaxy Quest)

Ric Jones : Edward Furlong ( Terminator 2 : Judgement Day)

John Jameson The 3rd : Bill Paxton ( Twister, True Lies)

William Walters : Tom Skeritt ( Top Gun, Alien)

Nicholas Trask : Michael Wincott ( The Doors, Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves)

 

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UNIVERSAL PICTURES PRESNETS

THE GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (1997)
Director : Luc Besson ( The Fifth Element)

The Cast

Starlord / Peter Quill : Nathan Fillion

Gamora : Thandie Newton ( Jefferson In Paris , Mission Impossible 2)

Rocket Racoon voice : Bruce Willis ( Look Who's Talking, Die Hard )

Drax The Destroyer : Michael Clarke Duncan ( Armageddon , The Green Mile)

Groot voice : Richard Moll ( Night Court, Two Face in Batman The Animated Series)

Nebula : Uma Thurman ( Gattaca )

Ronan The Accuser : Gabriel Bryne ( Miller's Crossing)

Yondu :Ron Perlman ( Alien Resurrection , Beauty And The Beast)

 

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UNIVERSAL PICTURES PRESENTS

CAPTAIN AMERICA : CIVIL WAR (1998)
Director : Michael Bay
Producer : Jerry Bruckheimer

Captain America : Brad Pitt

Iron Man : Timothy Dalton

Winter Solider / Bucky Barnes : Billy Zane ( Titanic, The Phantom)

Black Panther / T' Challa : Denzel Washington ( Malcolm X, Glory)

Spiderman/ Peter Parker : Elijah Wood ( The Faculty )

Zemo : Gary Oldman ( The Professional, JFK)

Falcon : Will Smith ( Independence Day, Enemy Of the State)

Scarlett Witch : Rachel Weisz ( The Mummy)

Vision : Jude Law (Gattaca )

Antman / Scott Lang : Ben Stiller ( There's Something About Mary, Mystery Men)

Hawkeye : Russell Crowe ( LA Confidential, Virtuosity)

Black Widow : Isabella Rossellini ( Blue Velvet)

Sharon Carter :Laura Linney ( Absolute Power)

Jim Rhodes : Joe Morton ( Terminator 2 : Judgement Day )

May Parker : Joan Allen ( Nixon, The Upside Of Anger)

Pepper Potts : Julia Roberts

Thunderbolt Ross : Ed Harris (The Rock, The Right Stuff)

 

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20TH CENTURY FOX PRESENTS

THE X -MEN (1992)
Director : Ridley Scott ( Alien, Bladerunner)

The Cast

Professor X : Ben Kingsley (Ghandi, Bugsy)

Wolverine : Mel Gibson ( Lethal Weapon, Mad Max )

Storm : Angela Bassett ( What's Love Got To Do With It, Boyz N The Hood)

Cyclops : Billy Campbell (The Rocketeer)

Jean Grey : Marcia Cross ( Melrose Place)

Gambit : Kevin Bacon ( Footloose, A Few Good Men)

Rouge : Madonna ( Dick Tracy, Desperately Seeking Susan)

Beast : Kevin Kline ( Dave, The Big Chill)

Jubilee : Lucy Liu ( Ally McBeal, Charlie's Angels)

Morph : Hank Azaria ( Mad About You, The Simpsons)

Magneto : Terrance Stamp ( Wall Street, Superman 2)

Mystique : Lena Olin ( Chocolat )

Sabretooth : Clancy Brown ( Highlander )

Toad : Tim Roth ( Rob Roy)

Trask : Joe Turkell (Bladerunner)

Senator Kelly : Paul Gleason ( The Breakfast Club, Trading Places)

 

[Dark Raven]

Bruce Banner/ The Hulk : Jeff Goldblum (The Fly, The Big Chill) , Ralf Moeller (Gladiator)

Jeff Goldblum is almost the same height as Ralf Moeller at 6'4". Banner can't just change colour and grow muscles but only grow a couple of inches!

 

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Jeff Goldblum is almost the same height as Ralf Moeller at 6'4". Banner can't just change colour and grow muscles but only grow a couple of inches!

Moeller was actually 6'6.
He may be 6'4 now , but he was 6'6 , 30 odd years ago.

Still, I'm sticking with Goldblum as the actor Banner for this iteration at least. He just fits for my idea of a 90s version of Banner.

I suppose I could have tried to find a 7 foot guy or an especially tall wrestler from back then, but it's not easy to find a guy that big, who could also act and communicate a range human emotions ala Ferrigno. Moeller could IMO.

This is also the early 1990s, so at that point, the massive, CGI, realistic ,Hulk fans expect today was out of the question.

Goldblum was and is also pretty lanky so no one back then, or today ,is gonna think they're in anyway the same body type, nor that Goldblum is the same imposing figure of Moeller was back then. Even in Moeller's 90s films, he was leaner than his prime, which I imagine he would bulk up to.

Arnold was like 6'3 himself, back in the day, so Moeller still taller.

But I can see why someone wouldn't see Goldblum or Moeller be the ideal pair based on height. Fair enough

But if I'm doing my ideal a 1990s Avengers film, I'm going with Goldblum as the actor who could pull off a range of emotions as Bruce Banner.

 

[Dark Raven]

Moeller was actually 6'6.
He may be 6'4 now , but he was 6'6 , 30 odd years ago.

Still, I'm sticking with Goldblum as the actor Banner for this iteration at least. He just fits for my idea of a 90s version of Banner.

I suppose I could have tried to find a 7 foot guy or an especially tall wrestler from back then, but it's not easy to find a guy that big, who could also act and communicate a range human emotions ala Ferrigno. Moeller could IMO.

This is also the early 1990s, so at that point, the massive, CGI, realistic ,Hulk fans expect today was out of the question.

Goldblum was and is also pretty lanky so no one back then, or today ,is gonna think they're in anyway the same body type, nor that Goldblum is the same imposing figure of Moeller was back then. Even in Moeller's 90s films, he was leaner than his prime, which I imagine he would bulk up to.

Arnold was like 6'3 himself, back in the day, so Moeller still taller.

But I can see why someone wouldn't see Goldblum or Moeller be the ideal pair based on height. Fair enough

But if I'm doing my ideal a 1990s Avengers film, I'm going with Goldblum as the actor who could pull off a range of emotions as Bruce Banner.

I meant Jeff Goldblum is 6'4" which is why he'd only grow a couple of inches to 6'6" which is nothing.

Goldblum is tall, which is why he even was in a film called The Tall Guy.

 

[Frodo]

I meant Jeff Goldblum is 6'4" which is why he'd only grow a couple of inches to 6'6" which is nothing.

Goldblum is tall, which is why he even was in a film called The Tall Guy.

Well ,there's a difference between someone who's 6'4 and someone who's 6'6 visually.

A 6'4 guy is tall yeah , but a 6'6 is getting into Basketball player height .

The differences between the two are would be stark physically, and would be even more Stark with Moeller getting into his Bodybuilding shape, to me, it would be clear these are two different guys with two different statures.

That said, I get you would prefer a shorter actor as Banner.

Fair enough. We disagree.

At the end of the day , it's a make believe cast list, and we're all going to have different views on who should have been who based on what we want in our own What if casts.