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MARVEL WHAT-IF: REIMAGINING SEQUELS & FILMS THAT NEVER WERE

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The shocking conclusion to The Amazing Spiderman Trilogy

THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN 3 (2017)
Director : Marc Webb
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The Cast

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Spiderman / Peter Parker : Andrew Garfield


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Kraven The Hunter : Richard Armtiage


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Mary Jane Watson : Mary Elizabeth Winstead


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Jean DeWolff : Naomie Harris

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Doctor Miles Warren : Burn Gorman

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Alistar Smythe : BJ Novak

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Aunt May : Sally Field

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Harry Osborn : Dane Deehan

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Kurt Connors : Rhys Ifans

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Uncle Ben : Martin Sheen

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Gwen Stacy : Emma Stone


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George Stacy : Dennis Leary
 
X4: CIVIL WAR (2009)
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In a clash against the villainous Mole Man, Johnny Storm of the Fantastic Four accidentally causes massive collateral damage sparking a national debate and the government’s passing of the Superhuman Registration Act. The new legislation draws out Wolverine and the X-Men in fear of what this will mean for mutants—young men and women born with extraordinary abilities. As the debate escalates into an all-out feud, alliances are forged with family against family and friend against friend in this explosive adaptation of The New York Times best-selling Marvel event.

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Logan / Wolverine: Hugh Jackman
Ororo Munroe / Storm: Halle Berry
Hank McCoy / Beast: Kelsey Grammer
Kitty Pryde / Shadowcat: Elliot Page (as Ellen)
Bobby Drake / Iceman: Shawn Ashmore
Peter Rasputin / Colossus: Daniel Cudmore

No new team members?

Crossing over with Fantastic Four could be interesting but would be weird, those films actually having a vaguely similar style and yet with a lot less angst and social drama but a transition could work.

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The shocking conclusion to The Amazing Spiderman Trilogy

THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN 3 (2017)
Director : Marc Webb
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What would be your origin/version of the symbiote and what role would Harry Osborn play? And how would Peter meet Mary Jane and what role would she play?
 
What would be your origin/version of the symbiote and what role would Harry Osborn play? And how would Peter meet Mary Jane and what role would she play?

Well, to be clear, in this film, I imagined the film beginning with Peter already donning a black Spiderman suit , minus the symbiote, which reflects his darkened and aggressive attitude.
As he alluded to in NWH, he stops pulling punches and lets his grief get the better of him.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a manip without the symbiote reflected in the suit.
But, there isn't a symbiote in this story.

The ideas for story I actually came up with in 2014 post ASM 2 ,and pre the Marvel Sony deal.

The jist of the story is, Peter learning to live again, and learning that past pain, doesn't prevent future happiness.

Kraven, in the story, represents an older version of what Peter could become. A window into a darker the future.
His life has become all about the hunt and the kill. He's ceased finding joy in life ,and only gets a temporary satisfaction, and a high ,from stalking and punishing his prey, which in this version ,are humans .

Harry Represents the past pain, resentment, and mistakes, he can't get past, and which is like an anchor preventing him from moving forward.

MJ , represents the possibilities of a hopeful, brighter , future.
In this version, she isn't a childhood neighbor, or a girl set up on a date via Aunt May.
She has no connection to Peter's past, and she represents a clean slate .

The story I have in my head is that the film takes place a few years after ASM 2 and he's a senior.

Peter Parker has basically isolated himself from his fellow classmates at Empire State University , and is truly a loner.

He basically fears getting close to anyone for fear that they will end up like Gwen, George Stacy, and Ben.

He's basically become Spiderman full time, and has ceased living due to his mourning and guilt over Gwen.

MJ is a the social butterfly on campus ,who parties through College as a means of burying her own pain.

She's flunking a course that would give her the last credit she needs to graduate ,and she goes to Peter, the social outcast, for help in tutoring for the rest of the semester.

Peter , reluctantly agrees , and I imagine that their dynamic has a bit of friction to it in the beginning.

He kinda lets his smart alec / brooding side out a bit with her, and she can dish it out with him just as easily , and she can do it with a smile.

They both begin to become intrigued with each other ,with both of them realizing there's more to the other than meets the eye.

So , their relationship would go from being testy to becoming friends, though there's a developing attraction between the two of them which Peter doesn't expect.

Peter is scared of the possibility of connecting with MJ beyond just becoming a friend, yet at the same time, her presence in his life is pulling him in a positive direction

As Peter begins to form a new , healthy dynamic with someone, he would find out that Harry Osborn is being released from Ravencroft after 4 years of " rehabilitation" and good behavior.

This sends Peter into a tale spin, and causes him to feel like he's somehow betrayed Gwen by connecting with MJ, and the release of Harry is reminding him that he can't be "happy".

That's about as far as I got in terms of story specifics .:funny:.
The rest is a rough idea of how I saw the story playing out

I know Harry ends up dead by the end of the story at Kraven's hands while wearing a black Spiderman suit in order to frame Spiderman.

Kraven would begin to become obsessed with Spiderman , with feelings of inferiority .
He would begin to feel that killing Spiderman would be his greatest conquest, and would give him a warped sense of "peace".

And by the end of it , the classic Kraven's last Hunt scene would playout with Peter being buried alive ala the comics ,and after finding the will to live again, he would dig himself out of the muddy grave in a thunder storm.

After all is said and done, and Kraven is defeated, Peter would put away his black costume, and embrace the possibilities with a new lease on life, and taking a chance with MJ.
 
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Sony would have wanted the symbiote but could have accepted just having new black costume.

Didn't really like how Harry was portrayed in TASM2 but interesting ideas for bringing him back and how to use him in relation to Kraven.
 
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I wasn't much of a fan of ASM 2 Harry either.
 
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Ready for flight, this summer...


IRON - MAN (1990)
Director : Tony Scott
Producer : Jerry Bruickheimer
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The Cast

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Iron Man / Tony Stark : Tom Cruise

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The Mandarin : John Lone


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Iron Monger / Obadiah Stane : Gene Hackman


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Pepper Potts : Nicole Kidman


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Jim Rhodes : Denzel Washington



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Edwin Jarvis : John Neville


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Nick Fury : Louis Gossett Jr.


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Maria Hill : Demi Moore


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Justin Hammer : Dan O'Hearlhy


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This summer, Iron Man will face the enemy within


IRON MAN PART II : DEMON IN A BOTTLE (1993)
Director : Tony Scott
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The Cast

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Iron Man / Tony Stark : Tom Cruise

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Titanium Man : Liam Neeson

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Whiplash : Sean Bean

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Justin Hammer : Dan O' Hearhly

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War Machine / Jim Rhodes : Denzel Washington


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Pepper Potts : Nicole Kidman


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Black Widow : Izabella Scorupco


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Nick Fury : Louis Gossett Jr.


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Maria Hill : Demi Moore


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The President Of The United States : Fred Thompson

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Alexander Pearce : Henry Czerny

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Edwin Jarvis : John Neville

 
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CAPTAIN AMERICA : HOMELAND (1994)
Director : Phillip Noyce
Screenplay : Tom Clancy and Michael Crichton
Music : John Williams
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The Cast


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Captain America/ Steve Rogers : Brad Pitt

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Flag Smasher / Karl Morgenthau : Patrick Bergin


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Madame Hydra : Catherine Zeta Jones

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Baron Strucker : Steven Berkoff

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Nick Fury : Louis Gossett Jr.

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Hawkeye / Clint Barton : Gary Sinise

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Sharon Carter : Heather Graham


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Abraham Erskine : Armin Mueller Stahl


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Batrac The Leaper : Andreas Wisniewski

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The President Of The United States : Fred Thompson

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Peggy Carter : Anne Bancroft
 
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THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN (1997)
Director : Kevin Williamson
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The Cast

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Spiderman : Elijah Wood

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Doctor Octopus / Otto Octavius: Bob Gunton

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Mysterio : Rufus Sewell

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Kraven The Hunter : Jean Reno

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Electro : Michael Wincott

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The Vulture : James Cromwell

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Sandman: Brian Thompson

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Mary Jane Watson : Claire Danes


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Flash Thompson : Zachery Ty Bryan

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Liz Allen : Ariana Richards

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Aunt May : Joan Allen

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J. Jonah Jameson : R Lee Ermey


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Robbie Robertson : Bernie Casey

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Betty Brant : Neve Campbell
 
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Her family rejects her
The Human race fears her
The Government wants her
Her name is Jean , and she's 16 years old...

THE X MEN (1984)
Director : James Cameron
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Cyclops / Scott Summers: Jason Patric, 18

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Marvel Girl / Jean Grey : Diane Lane, 18

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Beast / Hank McCoy : John Cusack, 18

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Iceman / Bobby Drake : C Thomas Howell, 18



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Angel / Warren Worthington The III : Kiefer Sutherland, 18

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Professor X : Ben Kingsley

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Moira McTaggart : Anne Archer

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John Grey : Tom Skerritt

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Elaine Grey : Gwynne Gilford


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Senator Kelly : Paul Gleason

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Bolivar Trask : William Atherton


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Mystique cameo in after credits scene : Rebecca De Mornay
 
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Wanda and Pietro searched for their parents
What the found , was a brotherhood


THE BROTHERHOOD (1986)
Director : Ridley Scott
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The Cast


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Magneto : Max Von Sydow

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Mystique : Rebecca Demornay

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Avalanche : Judd Nelson


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Quicksilver / Pietro Maximoff : Christian Slater


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Scarlett Witch/ Wanda Maximoff : Demi Moore

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Juggernaunt : Donald Gibb

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Toad : John Cryer

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Sebastian Shaw : Rutger Haurer

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Emma Frost : Sharon Stone

 
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In the style of a big budget, 1980s, extravaganza , complete with hit motion picture soundtrack



THE AVENGERS: EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES ! (1986)
Director : Steven Spielberg
Producer : George Lucas
Music : John Williams
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Captain America : Patrick Swayze


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Iron Man : Richard Gere

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Thor : Jeff Bridges


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Bruce Banner : Steve Guttenberg



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Black Panther : Billy Dee Williams


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Antman / Hank Pym : Dennis Quaid


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The Wasp / Janet Van Dien : Kate Capshaw


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Hawkeye : Kurt Russell


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Black Widow :Isabella Rossellini


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Scarlett Witch/ Wanda Maximoff : Demi Moore

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Vision : Julian Sands


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Quicksilver / Pietro Maximoff : Christian Slater


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Jim Rhodes : Ernie Hudson


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Loki : Jeremy Irons


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Red Skull : Alan Rickman

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Madame Hydra : Catherine Deneuve


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Edwin Jarvis : Sir John Gielgud

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Nick Fury : Louis Gossett Jr.
 
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Spider-Man 4 (2009)
Directed by Sam Raimi
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Tobey Maguire as Peter Benjamin Parker / Spider-Man
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Rosemary Harris as Aunt May
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Joe Manganiello as Flash Thompson
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Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy
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James Cromwell as Captain George Stacy
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J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson
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Dylan Baker as Dr. Curt Connors
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Frances McDormand as Martha Connors
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Max Records as Billy Conners
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Ben Kingsley as Adrian Toomes/The Vulture
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Anne Hathaway or Rachel Mcadams As Felicia Hardy/ Blacc Cat
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Woody Harrelson or Forest Whitakeras Herman Schultz/Shocker
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Bruno Amato or Patrick Warburton As Rhino
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Harold Perrineau or Michael Ealy as Prowler (Hobbie Brown)
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Spider-Man 5 (2011)
Directed by Sam Raimi

Tobey Maguire as Peter Benjamin Parker / Spider-Man
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Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson
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Rosemary Harris as May Parker
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Anne Hathaway or Rachel Mcadams As Felicia Hardy/ Black Cat
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Joe Manganiello as Flash Thompson
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J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson
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Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy
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Dylan Baker as Dr. Curt Connors
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Frances McDormand as Martha Connors
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Bruce Campbell as Mysterio
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Ben Foster as Electro
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Spider-Man 6 (2014)
Directed by Sam Raimi

Tobey Maguire as Peter Benjamin Parker / Spider-Man
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Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson Parker
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Rosemary Harris as May Parker
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Dylan Baker as Curt Conners/The Lizard
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(Design based on these four images)
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Frances McDormand as Martha Connors
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Max Records as Billy Conners
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Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy
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Anne Hathaway or Rachel Mcadams As Felicia Hardy/ Black Cat
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Joe Manganiello as Flash Thompson
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J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson
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Liam Neeson/Antonio Banderas/Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Kraven The Hunter
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Julian Richings/Robert Carlyle as The Chameleon
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(I imagined the mask being based on Frakyln and cobra commander)
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THE FANTASTIC 4 (1964)
Director : Richard Fleischer
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The Cast


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Mr. Fantastic : Russell Johnson


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Invisible Woman : Elizabeth Montgomery


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Human Torch : Tab Hunter


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The Thing : Ernest Borgnine


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Doctor Doom : Christopher Lee

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Franklin Richards : Ron Howard

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Alicia Masters : Patty Duke
 
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MOON KNIGHT (2002)
Director : Andy and Lana Wachowski
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The Cast


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Moon Knight/ Steven Grant / Marc Spector : Benicio Del Toro


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Arthur Harrow : Kevin Bacon

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Layla El-Faouly : Marion Cotillard

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GHOST RIDER (2007)
dir. Guillermo del Toro
composer Danny Elfman

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Years ago, motorcycle stuntman Johnny Blaze (Johnny Deep) sold his soul to save the life of a loved one. Now, he transforms into a fiery, avenging agent of justice at night wherever evil roams. As the only one who can walk in both worlds, Johnny is charged by Mephistopheles (Donald Sutherland) himself to destroy Blackheart (Jared Leto), a demon that wants to overthrow Mephistopheles and create a worse hell than the one that currently exists in this thrill-a-minute adaptation of the Marvel Comics anti-hero.

Johnny Blaze / Ghost Rider: Johnny Depp, 44
Roxanne Simpson: Penelope Cruz, 34

VILLAINS
Mephistopheles: Donald Sutherland, 72
Blackheart: Jared Leto, 36

THE HIDDEN (FALLEN ANGELS OF EARTH)
Wallow (water): Michelle Yeoh, 45
Abigor (wind): Doug Jones, 47
Gressil (earth): Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, 40

SUPPORTING
Caretaker: Ron Perlman, 57
Barton Blaze: Will Patton, 53
Mack (Johnny’s friend): Clifton Collins Jr., 37

ADDITIONAL
Stuart (news cameraman): Michael Peña, 31
Captain Jack Dolan: Neal McDonough, 41
Crash Simpson: Edward James Olmos, 60
Teen Johnny: Lou Taylor Pucci, 22

CHANGES TO ORIGINAL FILM
Guillermo del Toro directs Ghost Rider after Pan’s Labyrinth before Hellboy II: The Golden Army. He rewrites the script with David S. Goyer and brings his signature auteur style to the film, amplifying the shooting script with stronger character development and horror.

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Danny Elfman provides a swelling iconic score with key moments in the film accentuated with popular rock ‘n roll needle drops.

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Ghost Rider looks more closely like his on-screen appearance in the sequel, Spirit of Vengeance with Depp’s voice modulated for demonic effect. Ghost Rider is not a chatterbox but when he does speak, his dialogue is not Hulk-esque as it’s presented in the original Nicholas Cage film.

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The film is set in San Antonio in 1972 (the year the character debuted in comics).

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The prologue is set in 1955 when a 17-year old Johnny Blaze makes a deal with the devil.

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Roxanne’s role as an investigative reporter is expanded in the film—she’s a working woman in the 1970s trying to make a name for herself in the Texas news market. And facing barriers every step of the way.

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Her father, Crash Simpson, is reimagined from the comic as a corrupt carnival owner (where Barton Blaze performed) with local mob ties. He abused Roxanne when she was younger (one of the reasons she resents Johnny for leaving all those years ago—not because he left, but because he left without her). He’s the first victim to feel Ghost Rider’s penance stare.



Caretaker plays a more central role in the finale, sacrificing himself to help Johnny Blaze triumph over evil. His redemption closes out his arc as he perishes heroically, hoping God will forgive him for his many sins.

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When Blackheart becomes Legion in the film’s finale, he appears as a monster akin to his classic comic appearance.

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The Hidden are three elemental fallen angels representing Earth, Water, & Wind. They are not Blackheart’s lackeys in GDT’s Ghost Rider. Instead, they seem him as a means to an end — they too wish to usurp Mephistopheles from his throne in Hell. They’ll betray Blackheart too when it suits their needs.

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The Hidden are wise and ancient, and each presents a unique ability & fighting prowess that Ghost Rider must overcome before defeating Blackheart.

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The film ends with Johnny Blaze entering a bar filled with unsavory bikers before igniting into flame. Cut to black.


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Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson
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Dylan Baker as Curt Conners/The Lizard
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It was a shame we didn't get to see him become the Lizard, though there probably would have to be a few films between 2 with its corrupted family man scientist and that.

Bruce Campbell as Mysterio
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If Raimi was willing to have a serious version of Mysterio I would have liked Gary Sinise.
 
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IRON MAN PART III : ARMOR WARS (1996)
Director : Tony Scott
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The Cast



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Iron Man/ Tony Stark : Tom Cruise

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Ultron : Alan Rickman

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Aldrich Killian : Jeremy Irons

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Edwin Cord : Terence Stamp

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Pepper Potts : Nicole Kidman

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War Machine / Jim Rhodes : Denzel Washington


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Brandt : Famke Janssen

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Nick Fury : Louis Gossett Jr.


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Edwin Jarvis : John Neville



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The President Of The United States : Fred Thompson
 
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THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN (1997)
Director : Kevin Williamson
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The Cast

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Spiderman : Elijah Wood

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Doctor Octopus / Otto Octavius: Bob Gunton

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Mysterio : Rufus Sewell

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Kraven The Hunter : Jean Reno

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Electro : Michael Wincott

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The Vulture : James Cromwell

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Sandman: Brian Thompson

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Mary Jane Watson : Claire Danes


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Flash Thompson : Zachery Ty Bryan

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Liz Allen : Ariana Richards

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Aunt May : Joan Allen

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J. Jonah Jameson : R Lee Ermey


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Robbie Robertson : Bernie Casey

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Betty Brant : Neve Campbell


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THE SPECTACULAR SPIDERMAN (1998)
Director : Michael Apted
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The Cast


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Spiderman / Peter Parker : Elijah Wood


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Mary Jane Watson : Claire Danes


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The Kingpin / Wilson Fisk : Paul Sorvino

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Allister Smythe : Rupert Everett


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Black Cat : Ali Larter

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Walter Hardy : Sean Connery


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Chameleon / Fake Spiderman : Robert Carlyle


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The Scorpion : Ron Pearlman


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The Shocker : Robert Davi


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Rhino: William Forsythe


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Jean DeWolff : Alfre Woodard


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Aunt May : Joan Allen


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J. Jonah Jameson : R Lee Ermey



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Robbie Robertson : Bernie Casey
 
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MARVEL COMICS: Chris Columbus Fantastic Four (Unproduced)

From the director of Home Alone, comes an adventure 4 the whole family

THE FANTASTIC FOUR (1996)
Director : Chris Columbus
Screenplay : Michael France
Music : John Williams
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The Cast

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Mr. Fantastic : Tom Hanks


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Invisible Woman : Meg Ryan


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Human Torch : Matt Damon


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The Thing : John Goodman


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Doctor Doom : Richard Roxburgh


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HERBIE voice : Fisher Stevens


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FANTASTIC FOUR PART 2 : THE WRATH OF ATLANTIS (1998)
Director : Chris Columbus
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The Cast

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Mr. Fantastic : Tom Hanks

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Sue Storm : Meg Ryan


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Namor : Jason Scott Lee


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The Mole Man : Joe Pesci


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Human Torch : Matt Damon


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The Thing : John Goodman

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Franklin Richards : Haley Joel Osment


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Alicia Masters : Samantha Mathis

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Super Skrull cameo, the puppet master of the film : Powers Boothe


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Their Kingdoms want them together
Their Lovers want them apart
Eric Kilmonger wants to rule them all...



BLACK PANTHER : BRIDE OF WAKANDA (1994)
Director : John Singleton
Producer : Spike Lee
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The Cast



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Black Panther / T'Challa : Wesley Snipes

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Storm : Angela Bassett

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Kilmonger : Tupac Shakur


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Claw : Dennis Hopper

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Naki : Vanessa Williams

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Forge : Jimmy Smits

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Shuri : Nia Long

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Okoye : Grace Jones

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M' Baku : Michael Clarke Duncan

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T' Chaka : James Earl Jones

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Everett Ross : Kenneth Branaugh
 
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DAREDEVIL : NEW YORK'S FINEST (1997)
Director : Martin Scorsese
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The Cast


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Daredevil / Matt Murdock : Ray Liotta

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The Punisher : Elias Koteas

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The Kingpin / Wilson Fisk : Paul Sorvino

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Typhoid Mary : Jennifer Jason Leigh

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Bullseye : James Woods


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Karen Page : Bridget Fonda

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Foggy Nelson : Oliver Platt

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Vanessa Fisk : Lorraine Bracco

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Ben Urich : Harvey Keitel

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Stick : Clint Eastwood

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Claire Temple : Rae Dong Chong


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The Russian : Götz Otto

 
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10 Things About James Cameron's Unrealized X-Men Movie


X MEN (1992)
Director : Kathryn Bigelow
Producer : James Cameron
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The Cast



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Wolverine : Mel Gibson

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Cyclops : Michael Biehn

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Storm : Angela Bassett

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Nightcrawler : Johnny Depp


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Colossus : Dolph Lundgren

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Kitty Pryde : Winona Ryder


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Jean Grey : Linda Hamilton



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Professor X : Ben Kingsley

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Magneto : Rutger Hauer

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Mystique : Rebecca De Mornay


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Toad : Brad Dourif

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Sabretooth : Clancy Brown

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Pyro : Kiefer Sutherland
 

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