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spider-jide said:Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
persoanly im hoping he does take the role,the Sam J UF choice is not so interesting IMO
spider-jide said:Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
Lightning Strikez! said:Does anyone think that the current House Of M: Black Panther series could be a great starting point for a solo film for T'Challa AND Storm together?
I mean let's look at it: A sapien and Mutant Queen ruling over Africa, and facing common enemies i.e. Kraven or even Ian McKellan as Magneto. A film shot in native Africa would give those two characters plenty of time to do the following:
*Delve deep into Storm's origin--her loss of her parents at a young age
*Show how Ororo was worshipped by tribes for her Goddess-like dominion over the elements and agriculture
*Delve deep into T'Challa's origin and explain his royalty
*By having the two characters in a love story, the need for relationships will be satisfied
*Mind-blowing SFX with the weather etc. could be created against an African landscape
If two notable actors of colour were cast for these roles, I bet this concept would make one helluva splash at the box office. As long as the writing is good the possibilities are endless. All people have to do is get creative!
Arach Knight said:I don't think focusing on an African aspect would really do that film any kind of justice. As a black man it pains me to say it, but it is true. Diary of a Mad Black Woman, The Honey Mooners, Beauty Shop etc etc. All movies with all black casts. Each of those movies were box office failures. I thought (for its better parts) that Diary of a Mad Black Woman was a fairly strong film. Not Oscar material, but really strong. But like the rest, it floundered. There is no way to convince the American masses to go see an all black super hero film set in Africa. People pitched a fit just because Halle Berry played Catwoman, who is a traditionally white female. I don't think people could handle Storm and T'Challa (no less a person named T'Challa) in Africa. The villains they would battle there would also be limiting. If they did a film about the two, it would be better to keep them in New York like they have been. T'Challa is (or at least was) an Avenger.
That puts them back in the convenience of NY. Perhaps a movie focusing on two super heroes in love, but with different super hero goals, would be a better choice. They could perhaps even turn Storm into an adventurer, who joins T'Challa from time to time. Then, by explaining T'Challa's royalty and blood right to the Black Panther legacy, they could then explain Storm and how she once lived in Africa and was a different kind of royal. A false royalty found in false divinity. It gives American audiences a relatable location, and keeps the rogues gallery more open, since most of Marvel's characters live in New York.
Arach Knight said:I don't think focusing on an African aspect would really do that film any kind of justice. As a black man it pains me to say it, but it is true. Diary of a Mad Black Woman, The Honey Mooners, Beauty Shop etc etc. All movies with all black casts. Each of those movies were box office failures. I thought (for its better parts) that Diary of a Mad Black Woman was a fairly strong film. Not Oscar material, but really strong. But like the rest, it floundered. There is no way to convince the American masses to go see an all black super hero film set in Africa. People pitched a fit just because Halle Berry played Catwoman, who is a traditionally white female. I don't think people could handle Storm and T'Challa (no less a person named T'Challa) in Africa. The villains they would battle there would also be limiting. If they did a film about the two, it would be better to keep them in New York like they have been. T'Challa is (or at least was) an Avenger.
That puts them back in the convenience of NY. Perhaps a movie focusing on two super heroes in love, but with different super hero goals, would be a better choice. They could perhaps even turn Storm into an adventurer, who joins T'Challa from time to time. Then, by explaining T'Challa's royalty and blood right to the Black Panther legacy, they could then explain Storm and how she once lived in Africa and was a different kind of royal. A false royalty found in false divinity. It gives American audiences a relatable location, and keeps the rogues gallery more open, since most of Marvel's characters live in New York.
OutcryX said:DIARY OF A MAD BLACK WOMAN
Production Budget: $5.5 million
Domestic: $50,633,099 + Overseas: $19,104
= Worldwide: $50,652,203
Tyler Perry is gay
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The Storm said:I still haven't a chance to see 'Diary' but from one review I read I heard it was very corny. I think a black superhero film could possibly if done properly as I said before. With rap/rnb as the most popular form of music and seeing more black actors on the A list IMO there is an audience for it. As long as the marketing was done properly and the studio are behind as Lightning said.
I disagree. While I don't think there should be a Storm solo film, location & skin color have nothing to do with it. And Halle Barry didn't play Catwoman; she played CINO. She didn't play Selina Kyle in Gotham City. The uproar was b/c the movie was crap, not because of her color. Same goes for the Honeymooners. Like many of the TV-to-film adaptations of the past year, it was just plain unwanted. (I personally don't wanna see a guy calling himself Ralph Kramden, who never threatens his wife.) And for that matter, the public has thus far embraced a black Pete Ross, Kingpin, (moreso than not) Alicia Masters, Harvey Dent, Agent J-not to mention a Chinese Lana Lang, a British Magneto, a Scottish Nightcrawler &, most recently, a Welsh Batman!Arach Knight said:I don't think focusing on an African aspect would really do that film any kind of justice. As a black man it pains me to say it, but it is true. Diary of a Mad Black Woman, The Honey Mooners, Beauty Shop etc etc. All movies with all black casts. Each of those movies were box office failures. I thought (for its better parts) that Diary of a Mad Black Woman was a fairly strong film. Not Oscar material, but really strong. But like the rest, it floundered. There is no way to convince the American masses to go see an all black super hero film set in Africa. People pitched a fit just because Halle Berry played Catwoman, who is a traditionally white female. I don't think people could handle Storm and T'Challa (no less a person named T'Challa) in Africa. The villains they would battle there would also be limiting. If they did a film about the two, it would be better to keep them in New York like they have been. T'Challa is (or at least was) an Avenger.
That puts them back in the convenience of NY. Perhaps a movie focusing on two super heroes in love, but with different super hero goals, would be a better choice. They could perhaps even turn Storm into an adventurer, who joins T'Challa from time to time. Then, by explaining T'Challa's royalty and blood right to the Black Panther legacy, they could then explain Storm and how she once lived in Africa and was a different kind of royal. A false royalty found in false divinity. It gives American audiences a relatable location, and keeps the rogues gallery more open, since most of Marvel's characters live in New York.
Hallelujah. Finally someone says it.Bluefire said:As an african american male i was immediately drawn to storm.Mostly due to the fact that not only was she one of few black superheros she was a female, who lead a team and was incredibly powerful.In those days comic book women were screaming for their lovers to come save them and most black characters spoke horrible ebonics but storm was none of those things.while i did find a rich and compelling character in storm i found that as time went on she started heavily lacking her ethnicity. she would no longer wear her african beads, jewells or cloth she wouldn't even mention her homeland.You would think as the only black mutant on the team she was on she would be shown to deal with some racism but we never saw that.it was like the ethnicity in storm was sucked dry turning her personality into that of a mild mannered white woman [no offense].When storms hair became braided i was begining to think that maybe the old storm would return to me and while pieces of her appear once and awhile the old ororo appears to be dead.As for my opinions on x2 storm she doesn't even deserve to be called storm she lacks ANY substance and has been nothing but a device used to enhance OTHER characters personalities and not her own.Truth be told this isn't the first time, storm was given the exact same crappy treatment in x-men evolution. all the other x-men were made younger while storm was turned into a granny that would appear once and while to do magic tricks for the kiddies then disappear. the producers of x-men evolution commented that they never really got storms character but i'm sure the split personality freak rogue and the psychotic loving mother/babbling psycho mystique's personality were so much easier to understand [not sarcasm]. Basicly The only way they can possibly redeem storm in x3 in my eyes is put back that tragic origin scene of hers give her some god damn character development give her a civilian outfit that represents her deep ties to africa like comic storm use to do and for the love of god make her FLY! they call her a weatherwitch for a reason!
The Black Panther/Storm movie isn't going to happen. A Black Panther solo film would be a marketing disaster if aimed at just one demographic. And breaking nwe ground w/a comic film can happen. What do you think the first "Batman" did?Arach Knight said:I never said they can't be over come. It is a demographic thing. Obviously movies like Soul Food, How Stella Got Her Groove Back, Jungle Fever, Malcom X, Do The Right Thing, Higher Learning etc etc...all succeed when compared with movies like Honeymooners, Soul Plane, Beauty Shop etc etc. But they cater to a different demographic. Comics have done some amazing things, but using a comic movie to break new ground isn't going to happen. And if you notice, I simply said having the film be in Africa, with the two of them, isn't going to work. I clearly offered a remedy that put the same two black characters, in a familar back drop (New York). So they can do a movie with the two of them...but it would fail if it were set in New York. I would wager dollars to pecos that the movie would gross 3 times as much money, were it based around their X-Man/Avenger lives, rather than limiting their rogue gallery and scenery, to Africa. And for the record, I just want it to be known that I now officially abhor the term "CINO" Not to your personal fault though Chris. It is just one of those irksome internet acronyms like "lol" or "afk" that just get to me...
X-Maniac said:Good arguments here, great thread.
X-Maniac said:I'm not sure of a Storm solo movie... it could work, it could be a disaster, people may be wary after Catwoman. Linking it in with Black Panther and his African underground super-city could be a very good move. Setting it entirely in Africa wouldn't work, making it an entirely black movie probably wouldn't work. Focusing only on Storm might not work. Should we see Halle again? Could she pull it off? X3 will give us more clues about how the profile of Storm has been raised. I'd love to see a movie in which Storm is linked in with T'Challa and possibly Forge (he could be the one behind Black Panther's hi-tech city).
I'll add/clarify thoughts later after a good night's sleep!