Matt Reeves Directing The Batman

[SingItWithMeNow]

Is this guy out of the question?

 

[writer0327]

Team movies aside, we've had even less non-ensemble features.
Like the love interest or the buddy will somehow also be a hero or play such a crucial role to the narrative.

Simple trilogies aren't going anywhere as much as a couple franchises end up in a team-up territory.

I think for the foreseeable future, the idea of the "simple trilogy" is gone. At least for CBMs. I cannot imagine, for instance, Wonder Woman getting a sequel and that movie not featuring members of the Justice League or others within the DCEU.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Is this guy out of the question?

In my book he is out. I don't advocate a director of a previous series returning to direct for a reboot series.

 

[Eddie Dean]

He's banging Eva Green. He can do what he wants.

 

[DeadStroke]

The King Kong Skull Island director is who I want. He's already with WB, but did he just take a shot at the DCEU? lol Then again the same can be said for Spiderman's role in Civil War.

Vogt-Roberts: There’s definitely groundwork being laid for sure, and there’s a larger mythology being built here, but I spent a long time trying to craft something that, unlike a lot of big movies trying to set up franchises and go on 10-minute tangents in the middle of the movie to set up a film that’s coming out years later, I’m really proud that Legendary and Warner Bros. let me build that stuff in the background a bit.

 

[Jekecy]

The King Kong Skull Island director is who I want. He's already with WB, but did he just take a shot at the DCEU? lol Then again the same can be said for Spiderman's role in Civil War.

Hah, that's 100% a reference to the Knightmare sequence. Marvel has plenty of teases to their future sequels, but they always function as codas rather than weaved (or worse, interjected) within the main narrative.

 

[Ivan Drago]

He's banging Eva Green. He can do what he wants.

Is he really?

 

[Paradox1]

Hah, that's 100% a reference to the Knightmare sequence. Marvel has plenty of teases to their future sequels, but they always function as codas rather than weaved (or worse, interjected) within the main narrative.

I'm pretty sure that's also a dig at Civil War and Starks recruitment of Parker which went a little long. You could of cut both those sequences out and it wouldn't change anything that happens later. They both were there to set up a future film.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Is he really?

Yup.

 

[Boom]

That makes zero sense to me.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

I think for the foreseeable future, the idea of the "simple trilogy" is gone. At least for CBMs. I cannot imagine, for instance, Wonder Woman getting a sequel and that movie not featuring members of the Justice League or others within the DCEU.

I agree. It's all about the interconnected universe now with these. It's a shame. For example, as much as I love these films I wish I could have seen a MoS 1, 2 and 3 where Supes was completely unaware of any other meta-humans on Earth.

 

[shauner111]

I'm pretty sure that's also a dig at Civil War and Starks recruitment of Parker which went a little long. You could of cut both those sequences out and it wouldn't change anything that happens later. They both were there to set up a future film.

Noo, that scene was relevant in setting up Spideys involvement in the airplane sequence. The Knightmare lasted a long time and its only purpose was to set up the Justice League with the parademons and the Flash.

 

[Jekecy]

Noo, that scene was relevant in setting up Spideys involvement in the airplane sequence. The Knightmare lasted a long time and its only purpose was to set up the Justice League with the parademons and the Flash.

It also fed into Batman's paranoia that Superman was a threat. Flash's forewarning cemented it.

 

[2kt09]

Noo, that scene was relevant in setting up Spideys involvement in the airplane sequence. The Knightmare lasted a long time and its only purpose was to set up the Justice League with the parademons and the Flash.

Noo, that scene was relevant in setting up Batman's involvement in the vs sequence.

I was actually thinking AoU and TASM2.

 

[Paradox1]

Noo, that scene was relevant in setting up Spideys involvement in the airplane sequence. The Knightmare lasted a long time and its only purpose was to set up the Justice League with the parademons and the Flash.

That scenes adds nothing to further the plot, it's there to tee up Homecoming. It was a nice scene I thought, but I don't see how it furthered the rift between Cap and Iron Man

 

[Eddie Dean]

That makes zero sense to me.

Eva Green is like if you put Lisa Marie and Helena Bonham Carter in a Brundlefly pod.

 

[TheVileOne]

What happened with Matt Reeves very well could be tough public negotiations. Look at what David Lynch did for the new Twin Peaks, and he did it very publicly.

I'm not saying that's definitely the case here, but there is precedence for this.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

What happened with Matt Reeves very well could be tough public negotiations.

I guess that's possible.

 

[shauner111]

That scenes adds nothing to further the plot, it's there to tee up Homecoming. It was a nice scene I thought, but I don't see how it furthered the rift between Cap and Iron Man

The difference is simple. If you saw Spidey fighting in the airplane sequence, it wouldn't make sense without the scenes with Peter that came before. It shows how desperate Tony is to win this battle. The Knightmare sequence features characters that we never see again in the film. The next time you see Flash interacting with Batman is 3 films later in the universe. Bruce was already paranoid enough to plan Supermans demise so it's not like they couldn't have cut that scene. Sure Spidey didn't need to be involved in the final act, but he was, and it ended up being an essential piece of that fight and guess what? Without those scenes between Tony and Peter beforehand, without their masks on, it would not have made a lick of sense. You cut Bruce's nightmare and everything flows better. There a lot of interactions in the Civil War fight between Spidey and multiple characters. So in the end it serves Civil War, AND it sets up his solo film and sets up his involvement in the Avengers.

 

[Paradox1]

The difference is simple. If you saw Spidey fighting in the airplane sequence, it wouldn't make sense without the scenes with Peter that came before. It shows how desperate Tony is to win this battle. The Knightmare sequence features characters that we never see again in the film. The next time you see Flash interacting with Batman is 3 films later in the universe. Bruce was already paranoid enough to plan Supermans demise so it's not like they couldn't have cut that scene. Sure Spidey didn't need to be involved in the final act, but he was, and it ended up being an essential piece of that fight and guess what? Without those scenes between Tony and Peter beforehand, without their masks on, it would not have made a lick of sense. You cut Bruce's nightmare and everything flows better. There a lot of interactions in the Civil War fight between Spidey and multiple characters. So in the end it serves Civil War, AND it sets up his solo film and sets up his involvement in the Avengers.

That scene doesn't add to Cap and Tony's rift none whatsoever. For the sake of correctness in fact the airport scene isn't even in the final act of the movie. The end of the airport scene is actually when the final act begins. You could cut Spiderman completely from that movie and it doesn't change a damn thing.That scene and his involvement was there to soley set up homecoming. I'm not saying it's bad scene, I'm not saying it took me out of the movie but I also can recognize why it's there.

 

[writer0327]

Spidey was clearly shoehorned into the film and his involvement netted absolutely nothing for the overall plot. That's hard to dispute. Still, it was a fun scene at Aunt May's, it was a fun fight scene at the airport, and it introduced Spidey to the MCU and set up Homecoming very nicely. Spidey is still my favorite part of CA:CW.

The Knightmare scene could have been done better and felt more obvious than Spidey's stuff in CA:CW. Both were obvious, but Spidey's felt less obvious and frankly was just a lot more fun.

 

[shauner111]

Shoehorned or not, that airport battle would have been a very different edit without Spider-Man. And like I said, if you have him in that battle without the previous Peter scenes, it doesn't make sense. If you watch all of BvS without the Knightmare, nothing changes. So Civil War wins.

Personally, the Knightmare sequence was also confusing, while the Peter scenes are simple and clear. One is miserable and adds nothing because Bruce already wants to kill Supes, we don't need 6 more dreams or reasons for Bruce to get angry. While the other is entertaining and adds to Tony's team in his fight.

 

[DeadStroke]

 

[DeadStroke]

Noo, that scene was relevant in setting up Batman's involvement in the vs sequence.

I was actually thinking AoU and TASM2.

Forgot about that. The whole Klaw getting his arm ripped off scene sets up his character for Black Panther as well.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He's banging Eva Green. He can do what he wants.

There is zero evidence of this.