MCU Fantastic Four Box Office Predictions

[Nightshift]

For the FF? What retro active change could they have macd, and when would you have revealed that even if they did? Your strategy doesn't make sense

No like in WF. There's someone interested in Vibranium. Someone is orchestrating Namor's attack on Wakanda. Even if deals weren't done yet, you could now come out and say "Well guys, guess who directed Namor etc. How is that illogical? Don't you think you could have hidden some easter eggs that could potentially be from Latveria? Another moment could have been in D&W. I know the the Secret Wars issue, but there could have been more showcasing Doom is on his way.

 

[Spider-Fan]

No like in WF. There's someone interested in Vibranium. Someone is orchestrating Namor's attack on Wakanda. Even if deals weren't done yet, you could now come out and say "Well guys, guess who directed Namor etc. How is that illogical?

If memory serves, they almost did do something like that but didn't. Why? At the time they probably thought it was better to save Doom until Kang was done. Which ended up a poor choice after they had to pivot, sure. But hindsight is always 20/20 and they likely didn't account for Majors getting arrested for hitting his girlfriend

 

[Nightshift]

If memory serves, they almost did do something like that but didn't. Why? At the time they probably thought it was better to save Doom until Kang was done. Which ended up a poor choice after they had to pivot, sure. But hindsight is always 20/20 and they likely didn't account for Majors getting arrested for hitting his girlfriend

Agreed They should have still laid the groundwork for Doom even when Kang in mind. It's like they forgot how to finally weave in story lines like they did in P1. Also they shouldn't have made Kang goofy. I recall a Quantumania SDCC teaser where Kang did look threatening, but they never did anything with it.

 

[The Overlord]

If they had stuck to their guns, they could've wrapped up the Multiversal Saga with Kang and paved the way for a new ten-year saga with the Fantastic Four, X-Men, Inhumans, Midnight Sons, Defenders and Heroes for Hire with Doctor Doom as the big bad. Incredible that they allowed Quantumania of all things to **** everything up.

I don't think that would have worked. They would have had to replace Kang regardless. The problem is too much content and not enough quality control. I think the MCU needs to seriously pare back at this point.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

If they had stuck to their guns, they could've wrapped up the Multiversal Saga with Kang and paved the way for a new ten-year saga with the Fantastic Four, X-Men, Inhumans, Midnight Sons, Defenders and Heroes for Hire with Doctor Doom as the big bad. Incredible that they allowed Quantumania of all things to **** everything up.

Agreed. I also believe it was a huge mistake not to recast Chadwick and Majors. I respect the sensitivity around the actors’ situations and their positions with the fans. But ultimately, I think audiences would have moved on quickly, just as they did with the recasts of the original Rhodes and Bruce Banner characters. In my opinion, it was the combination of those decisions, COVID, writers’ strikes, and other elements that led to the cluster f*** they are in right now. I say this because as the box office industry is saying unanimously, the issues that First Steps is facing right now is through no fault of the director, the cast or the film’s quality. This is a classic case of cause and effect: external factors and their consequences.

 

[psylockolussus]

$201,668,068, already outgrossed Captain America: Brave New World.

$371,952,427, already outgrossed Captain America: The First Avenger globally.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, First Steps has hit $200M domestically. I think it should have a smoother ride out from here for the rest of August and into next month. Weapons might be the only thing that dethrones it this weekend, but the majority of people who wanted to see Superman a month ago have seen it by now, which may open up audience’s curiosity about First Steps. Perhaps it will rebound.

 

[psylockolussus]

It should at least hit the $250 million mark. $300 million though is not happening.

Given the box office performance of Brave New World and Thunderbolts*, this is at least an improvement, numbers wise (domestically) especially the actors in First Steps are new to the mcu, unlike the actors who played Sam, Yelena and Bucky, who were introduced years ago.

Worldwide gross is harder to predict. I don't think $500 million is certain. I can see it dropping harder in following weeks compare to North America.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

6.3m Tuesday. Gets it to around 208.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's holding a little better internationally though. I think it's going to make it

 

[kguillou]

I just want over 500m for this movie.

 

[Nightshift]

This movie ain't breaking 500 Mil I don't see this thing having legs. Which sucks cause I adore the F4. Pedro Pascal just ain't a box office draw either. It's an improvement compared to the other Marvel stuff recently. I really think we are at the end of Superhero genre. it won't die, but the compelling aspects or even the quality output ain't the same. Batman and Spider-Man will probably get the budget and some profit, but the billion mark seems far out in the ether. Maybe the audience has just moved on? DD and SW could be the aftershock.

 

[Spider-Fan]

We shall see. I don't have much interest in doom scrolling constantly on this topic. The end result will be what the end result will be

 

[lenz]

This movie ain't breaking 500 Mil I don't see this thing having legs. Which sucks cause I adore the F4. Pedro Pascal just ain't a box office draw either. It's an improvement compared to the other Marvel stuff recently. I really think we are at the end of Superhero genre. it won't die, but the compelling aspects or even the quality output ain't the same. Batman and Spider-Man will probably get the budget and some profit, but the billion mark seems far out in the ether. Maybe the audience has just moved on? DD and SW could be the aftershock.

It's the end of the genre in terms of peak performance and general output.

 

[TheGDBatman]

It's the end of the genre in terms of peak performance and general output.

 

[Nightshift]

It's the end of the genre in terms of peak performance and general output.

That's what I think. Kinda like the westerns etc. But maybe just maybe with a little luck a reduced output could mean higher quality.

 

[Madam-Shogun]

Unpopular opinion but, I think Marvel's biggest issue is forcibly trying to tie in everything together. I mean we already know it's a shared universe. You don't have to beat us over the head with it. The films and shows should stand on their own first and foremost. Crossovers are fun and fine, but it shouldn't be forced. It also cuts back on "homework".

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I’m confident this genre still has quite a few more billion dollar makers in it. I’m willing to bet The X-Men will completely change and reinvigorate this narrative.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This movie ain't breaking 500 Mil I don't see this thing having legs. Which sucks cause I adore the F4. Pedro Pascal just ain't a box office draw either. It's an improvement compared to the other Marvel stuff recently. I really think we are at the end of Superhero genre. it won't die, but the compelling aspects or even the quality output ain't the same. Batman and Spider-Man will probably get the budget and some profit, but the billion mark seems far out in the ether. Maybe the audience has just moved on? DD and SW could be the aftershock.

Yes it will.

It's at 208m as of Tues domestically. It will be at or above 230m after the weekend. Even if it drop really bad it gets to 270m. Which means it needs 230m OS. It's at 170m OS as of this past Sunday. Will be over 200m after this next week.

It's getting to 500m.

 

[Sithborg]

I’m confident this genre still has quite a few more billion dollar makers in it. I’m willing to bet The X-Men will completely change and reinvigorate this narrative.

It will not. And by the time X-men comes out, the gimmick that got Deadpool and Wolverine into a billion will be overplayed. Do not put your faith into the 97 reception. Well received, yes. Successful, sure. But it still had much, much less viewers than a lot of Disney+ live action shows. And we see those have not been helpful for the box office.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I’m confident this genre still has quite a few more billion dollar makers in it. I’m willing to bet The X-Men will completely change and reinvigorate this narrative.

It will not. And by the time X-men comes out, the gimmick that got Deadpool and Wolverine into a billion will be overplayed. Do not put your faith into the 97 reception. Well received, yes. Successful, sure. But it still had much, much less viewers than a lot of Disney+ live action shows. And we see those have not been helpful for the box office.

X-Men has always been rather front loaded. And what we will most likely see is brand new X-Men. Which means they need to be built again. And unless China and South Korea are back on board, who knows how fans will react.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

It will not. And by the time X-men comes out, the gimmick that got Deadpool and Wolverine into a billion will be overplayed. Do not put your faith into the 97 reception. Well received, yes. Successful, sure. But it still had much, much less viewers than a lot of Disney+ live action shows. And we see those have not been helpful for the box office.

I disagree. There are certain marquee comic characters that transcend to the wider audience beyond the fan community. Spider-Man, Batman, etc. I think The X-Men, especially with Logan in the mix, are in that upper echelon. Of course, they need all of the ingredients of a great film like any other competitor for the box office crown. But I think the MCU’s X-Men are arguably the most highly anticipated group yet to arrive and if done properly, they could reach those billion dollar heights.

 

[Sithborg]

I disagree. There are certain marquee comic characters that transcend to the wider audience beyond the fan community. Spider-Man, Batman, etc. I think The X-Men, especially with Logan in the mix, are in that upper echelon. Of course, they need all of the ingredients of a great film like any other competitor for the box office crown. But I think the MCU’s X-Men are arguably the most highly anticipated group yet to arrive and if done properly, they could reach those billion dollar heights.

All of what makes the X-men the X-men, goes against the people that Disney are trying to appease. A CCP approved X-men was bad enough.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

There are way too many variables up in the air regarding MCU X-Men that don’t make me confident.

They absolutely have a ton of heavy hitters but the way the film will be delivered gives me pause.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I disagree. There are certain marquee comic characters that transcend to the wider audience beyond the fan community. Spider-Man, Batman, etc. I think The X-Men, especially with Logan in the mix, are in that upper echelon. Of course, they need all of the ingredients of a great film like any other competitor for the box office crown. But I think the MCU’s X-Men are arguably the most highly anticipated group yet to arrive and if done properly, they could reach those billion dollar heights.

Then why did no FOX X-Men movie make a billion?