MCU Fantastic Four Box Office Predictions

[Stark Bauer]

Looks like the Box Office total grinding to a halt at 521-522 million

 

[Sithborg]

Obviously it has no bearing on Disney's perception of them, but I do find it interesting that at 7PM on Sundays the Marvel Twitter still posts the Reed Sunday dinner clip.

Clearly it made enough to satisfy them.

More accurately, it made enough to sell the PR that they are satisfied.

 

[psylockolussus]

Domestic (52.6%)
$274,285,206

International (47.4%)
$247,572,118

Worldwide
$521,857,324

 

[psylockolussus]

No more daily tallies.

Domestic (52.6%)
$274,286,610

International (47.4%)
$247,572,118

Worldwide
$521,858,728

 

[Stark Bauer]

That was a good start. I believe FF sequel will make af least 300 million domestic and over 600 million worldwide…if there is a Spider Man cameo then minimum 700 million perhaps even a billion total worldwide

 

[Sithborg]

China's DOA on CBMs. A billion is not poosible.

 

[psylockolussus]

China's DOA on CBMs. A billion is not poosible.

This is just false. Remove China's 59 million from Deadpool & Wolverine's box office, and it would have still grossed over a 1.2 billion.

I don't think Fantastic 4 is grossing a billion, but other CBMs could gross over a billion without China.

 

[Sithborg]

It did $600 million domestic. What CBM will come close to that beyond Avengers?

 

[Spider-Fan]

It did $600 million domestic. What CBM will come close to that beyond Avengers?

Spider-Man will

 

[BobJM]

Definitely Spider-Man

The Batman Pt II and Man of Tomorrow are toss-ups but the first films were well-received, so that may buy some audience goodwill. Who knows if that goodwill extends to 600 mil though

 

[psylockolussus]

It did $600 million domestic. What CBM will come close to that beyond Avengers?

Spider-Man, obviously which is coming out in less than a year.

 

[lenz]

Definitely Spider-Man

The Batman Pt II and Man of Tomorrow are toss-ups but the first films were well-received, so that may buy some audience goodwill. Who knows if that goodwill extends to 600 mil though

No chance.

Superman's popularity has been overstated for 40+ years. I know certain fans like to use terms like "most iconic" or "most beloved", but it never seems to translate into tangible results on par with Spider-Man or Batman in general, the X-Men in comics, or the Avengers at the box office. Just empty calories as far as I can tell. Nothing against the character, the original Donner film is still a top 4 film for me in the genre.

Batman can potentially get 600 m in the right circumstances, not sure if its this particular franchise in this particular marketplace. Although if any "deserves" to hit that mark, I'd say this is the current franchise that most qualifies. The Batman (2022) was two-thirds of the way to becoming an all-timer for me, but the third act was weak and the Volume™ scenes were awful looking. The sequel is easily the film I am most looking forward to in the genre.

Spider-Man is the most likely, I just have little interest even though Spidey used to be my favorite character. Too much shared spotlight and cameos (again). No thanks.

 

[BobJM]

Yeah, again, toss-ups. I don’t sweat the B.O. unless it impedes a sequel to a franchise I like

When X-Men: DOFP didn’t make a $1B, I knew my barometer was off lol

 

[Chris B]

If the Joker was going to be the main villain, I suspect The Batman Part 2 could hit the 600 mill mark. But needless to say, it's more than likely Reeves is going in another direction in that area so that may be a discussion for Part 3 in a few years.

 

[psylockolussus]

If DC Studios become as huge as the Mcu, maybe one of their films could hit the billion mark. But its just not realistic with Superman 2 and Batman Part II at the moment.

 

[lenz]

If DC Studios become as huge as the Mcu, maybe one of their films could hit the billion mark. But its just not realistic with Superman 2 and Batman Part II at the moment.

DC Studios will never reach the heights of popularity that the MCU achieved, but I wager at this point that DC will beat Marvel over the next decade simply because they'll try different things and attract superior talent rather easily.

Whether Gunn is there or not, it won't matter.

 

[psylockolussus]

DC Studios will never reach the heights of popularity that the MCU achieved, but I wager at this point that DC will beat Marvel over the next decade simply because they'll try different things and attract superior talent rather easily.

Whether Gunn is there or not, it won't matter.

I honestly doubt it.

They couldn't even reboot DC films from scratch.

 

[Spider-Fan]

DC Studios will never reach the heights of popularity that the MCU achieved, but I wager at this point that DC will beat Marvel over the next decade simply because they'll try different things and attract superior talent rather easily.

Whether Gunn is there or not, it won't matter.

If they fire Gunn and change leadership there again so quickly into this new DCU and have to completely shift creative, it will have zero shot at Marvel anytime soon. That was the DCEU playbook. How did that work out for them?

 

[lenz]

If they fire Gunn and change leadership there again so quickly into this new DCU and have to completely shift creative, it will have zero shot at Marvel anytime soon. That was the DCEU playbook. How did that work out for them?

I don't know if they'll fire Gunn, or if he'll wear out his welcome in a few years. Overall, my point is the "cinematic universe" concept has a lot of mileage with the fandom and general audience. I think Gunn understands this based on interviews (and the shade he throws at Marvel's way of doing things without stating it) and will try to avoid the similar pitfalls, namely playing it too safe as time goes on, starting production without a finished script, numbing endless reshoots (in part because of this), and alienating talent for the sake of the precious "connectivity".

Again, the audience simply doesn't care as much in 2025 about interconnectivity. While there are certainly advantages when executed, as time has gone on with the MCU we clearly see the wreckage of the disadvantages. This is where having the Reevesverse is also an advantage, because it demonstrates what you can do at a traditionally filmmaker-friendly studio vs. a studio (in the Bob Iger era) far more interested in hiring creatives just to put them on the IP hamster wheel and ultimately kill their creative soul.

People want something different and authentic now. The genre needs it for it's own sustainability. Which studio do you think will deliver these things? It's that simple for me.

The only drawback is a potential Netflix acquisition. It would suck if a company that has actively tried to undermine theatrical gets it's hands on WB.

 

[Frodo]

I doubt DC will reach the box office heights and popularity of the MCU .

Then again, I doubt Marvel Studios will reach the same heights they did in the Twenty -Teens , i.e. Several films in the Billion Dollar club.

I think certain characters like Spiderman, X Men , Batman and The Avengers , will continue to rack in big numbers at the box office, and audiences will still turn out to see them in the theater.

But I think fans hoping that DC Studios, will reach the heights of Marvel Studios a decade ago , should probably temper their expectations.

I think that era in general, is gone , at least for now.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't know if they'll fire Gunn, or if he'll wear out his welcome in a few years. Overall, my point is the "cinematic universe" concept has a lot of mileage with the fandom and general audience. I think Gunn understands this based on interviews (and the shade he throws at Marvel's way of doing things without stating it) and will try to avoid the similar pitfalls, namely playing it too safe as time goes on, starting production without a finished script, numbing endless reshoots (in part because of this), and alienating talent for the sake of the precious "connectivity".

Again, the audience simply doesn't care as much in 2025 about interconnectivity. While there are certainly advantages when executed, as time has gone on with the MCU we clearly see the wreckage of the disadvantages. This is where having the Reevesverse is also an advantage, because it demonstrates what you can do at a traditionally filmmaker-friendly studio vs. a studio (in the Bob Iger era) far more interested in hiring creatives just to put them on the IP hamster wheel and ultimately kill their creative soul.

People want something different and authentic now. The genre needs it for it's own sustainability. Which studio do you think will deliver these things? It's that simple for me.

Sure, people want something new. But DC isn't really doing anything new. Just another version of the interconnected model. I don't see them being a Marvel replacement, but those chances are even lower if they end up trashing another 5 year plan so they can transition to a new 5 year plan. My Cleveland Browns have been on 5 year plans since 1999. That modus operandi doesn't work.

I dont know what's going to replace Marvel. But I highly doubt it's going to be the competition that makes a similar product even if roles reverse and DC starts executing that model better than Marvel. The next big thing is likely to come out of nowhere and not be something people suspect. Cause whatever that is will be something ahead of the trend curve. Not chasing one that's in decline

 

[lenz]

Sure, people want something new. But DC isn't really doing anything new. Just another version of the interconnected model. I don't see them being a Marvel replacement, but those chances are even lower if they end up trashing another 5 year plan so they can transition to a new 5 year plan. My Cleveland Browns have been on 5 year plans since 1999. That modus operandi doesn't work.

I dont know what's going to replace Marvel. But I highly doubt it's going to be the competition that makes a similar product even if roles reverse and DC starts executing that model better than Marvel. The next big thing is likely to come out of nowhere and not be something people suspect. Cause whatever that is will be something ahead of the trend curve. Not chasing one that's in decline

Well I don't think anything can replace what Marvel was, especially right now. It feels like audiences are more balkanized and tribal than ever, and these studios and traditional media corporations simply can't control narratives like they once did. Certainly IP from western studios seem to be in a precarious position right now, so maybe something from the East can fill in the gap?

So my perspective on "replacement", as you put it, is more so from a creatively superior interconnected model and a studio that doesn't need to rely on any such model as demonstrated by The Batman (2022) and Joker (2019). The one-size-fits-all approach is not enough.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well I don't think anything well ever be as big as Marvel was, especially right now. It feels like audiences are more balkanized and tribal than ever, and these studios and traditional media corporations simply can't control narratives like they once did. Certainly IP from western studios seems to be in a precarious position right now, so maybe something from the East can fill in the gap?

So my perspective on "replacement", as you put it, is more so from a creatively superior interconnected model and a studio that doesn't need to rely on any such model as demonstrated by The Batman (2022) and Joker (2019). The one-size-fits-all approach is not enough.

I am not even going to try and guess what that next thing will be, and it may not even be movies at all. How we consume media has changed, so your next big IP may not even be based on the model we are used to.

DC is far too early in its infancy for me to entertain how far they'll go. Especially with WB trying to sell itself. This whole thing can just die on the vine and go nowhere in 1000 ways

 

[lenz]

I am not even going to try and guess what that next thing will be, and it may not even be movies at all. How we consume media has changed, so your next big IP may not even be based on the model we are used to.

DC is far too early in its infancy for me to entertain how far they'll go. Especially with WB trying to sell itself. This whole thing can just die on the vine and go nowhere in 1000 ways

I don't see anything that will be "the next big thing" with a tent the size of Marvel. It's probably something outside of the traditional media ecosystem. At one point I though it may be video games/gaming that replaces theatrical but that industry is in as much trouble as Hollywood.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Just on the point about interconnectivity, it's a shame that it happens in a time where the audience is smarter but has such a low attention span.

That's what made Marvel Studios exciting to me in the first place. The fact that we had decades of standalone movies, but now we could finally see them crossover in the same universes. But the audience now thinks watching all these things is 'homework'.

It's a true double edged sword.

I doubt DC will reach the box office heights and popularity of the MCU .

Then again, I doubt Marvel Studios will reach the same heights they did in the Twenty -Teens , i.e. Several films in the Billion Dollar club.

I think certain characters like Spiderman, X Men , Batman and The Avengers , will continue to rack in big numbers at the box office, and audiences will still turn out to see them in the theater.

But I think fans hoping that DC Studios, will reach the heights of Marvel Studios a decade ago , should probably temper their expectations.

I think that era in general, is gone , at least for now.

You took the words out of my mouth. Totally agree.

Certain characters will rank in more than others, but yeah, I think it's safe to say that the boom Marvel Studios had this past decade is done for now.

I just don't see it in the cards for DC Studios either.