Marvel Films MCU Phase IV!

[Dr. Evil]

I think the MCU heyday is over. Phase IV is not looking too promising.

So you think the MCU will fail without RDJ and Evans?

 

[Raiders]

So you think the MCU will fail without RDJ and Evans?

No, I don’t think it’s going to fail. It’s not going to be as big. I think the billion dollars box office is over. I can’t see any Phase IV getting to $600 million, maybe Thor, but that’s it.

 

[Tymminator]

So with Phase 4 looking promising and looking to introduce new characters into the MCU, it does have me wondering what the kind of Disney+ shows will go with the films.

In Phase 5 (and maybe 6, as Phases may be even shorter now as Phase 4 Hasbro proven), some time in our future we have the Black Panther 2, Captain Marvel 2, I bet another Ant-man of some sort, Fantastic Four, X-Men and the next version of Avengers (where you will see Sam-Cap and (Jane-Thor as members for sure), not to mention other potential films. Any of these can have Disney+ sister mini-series to help not only go with the show but flesh out the World.

I really would like when they first intro Wolverine he has nothing to do with X-Men yet...I would like some type of flashback with Hulk if possible, or maybe have him with a fledging Alpha Flight. Have him join later.

 

[flickchick85]

I wouldn't be surprised if Storm was to be the first MCU mutant we meet...in Black Panther 2.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Somebody didn't give Spidey the memo about BO. And I say this as someone thoroughly underwhelmed by FFH.

 

[Shuri]

I wouldn't be surprised if Storm was to be the first MCU mutant we meet...in Black Panther 2.

That's exactly what I want.

 

[NHawk19]

This phase will be interesting because Phase 3 provided such a sugar rush, that I fear by comparison this Phase will start off rather bland. I don't think we'll see the intense must have film until Thor 4 which may only provide a Ragnarok level performance rather than an Avengers level. In fact it may be Phase 5 or 6 before we see another billion dollar property. It's not surprising though since the IFW/EG level of event films require buildup and are hard to sustain.

 

[Shuri]

This phase will be interesting because Phase 3 provided such a sugar rush, that I fear by comparison this Phase will start off rather bland. I don't think we'll see the intense must have film until Thor 4 which may only provide a Ragnarok level performance rather than an Avengers level. In fact it may be Phase 5 or 6 before we see another billion dollar property. It's not surprising though since the IFW/EG level of event films require buildup and are hard to sustain.

Eternal looks to be interesting and I think Doctor Strange is going to win this phase. I just have this feeling that it's going to be unique. And if it's good, it's going to come close to a billion dollars if not more.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I wouldn't be surprised if Storm was to be the first MCU mutant we meet...in Black Panther 2.

That could be interesting, especially with the dynamic between T'Challa and Nakia.

 

[NHawk19]

Eternal looks to be interesting and I think Doctor Strange is going to win this phase. I just have this feeling that it's going to be unique. And if it's good, it's going to come close to a billion dollars if not more.

I think DrS, Eternals, and Thor could be 700-900 million dollar properties, but not quite a billion, though being MCU affiliated now who knows. Hoping the trailers, and marketing ratchet up interest. I'm really looking forward to all of them but they just don't feel like Avenger's level movies. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[InCali]

Well this is all been very interesting. So, now that we’ve gotten all of the facts about phase 4 and know exactly how it’s going to turn out, should we just close this thread?

 

[Dr. Evil]

I wouldn't be surprised if Storm was to be the first MCU mutant we meet...in Black Panther 2.

It will also be interesting to see who plays Storm and how old she will be.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well this is all been very interesting. So, now that we’ve gotten all of the facts about phase 4 and know exactly how it’s going to turn out, should we just close this thread?

Well, that would be like closing a thread as soon as an actor is cast in a role - eg "Simu Liu is Shang Chi". Alright, we know who's playing him now. Close thread.

 

[CaptainWagner]

No, I don’t think it’s going to fail. It’s not going to be as big. I think the billion dollars box office is over. I can’t see any Phase IV getting to $600 million, maybe Thor, but that’s it.

You really are committed to being the most wrong about the most possible things...

What is the rationale to back this up? Every MCU sequel besides Ant-Man & The Wasp has made huge gains on the previous film's box office. You really think Dr. Strange:MoM is going to make LESS money than his origin flick did? That Thor, after scoring 854 mil will only MAYBE cross 600 with his next film? No MCU movie has failed to make 600 mil since the OG Ant-Man.

 

[Web-Head]

Thor will make close to a billion, if not surpass it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

You really are committed to being the most wrong about the most possible things...

What is the rationale to back this up? Every MCU sequel besides Ant-Man & The Wasp has made huge gains on the previous film's box office. You really think Dr. Strange:MoM is going to make LESS money than his origin flick did? That Thor, after scoring 854 mil will only MAYBE cross 600 with his next film? No MCU movie has failed to make 600 mil since the OG Ant-Man.

It's not about rational analysis with Raiders.

It's all about:

That's it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Thor will make close to a billion, if not surpass it.

Most likely. The previous one has a wide appeal and the choices Feige has made for L&T, which are BALLSY as hell in my mind, probably assure a lot of interest in the next one.

 

[Zarex]

It will also be interesting to see who plays Storm and how old she will be.

I would prefer they go with a teenage Ororo. I'd like to see her coming into her powers and eventually transition to Xaviers school as a student. And T'Challa already has a great gal.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I said this in the MCU X-Men thread just a few minutes ago:

- If you want to keep Magneto as a white man and in modern day, make him a survivor of the Balkan conflict that erupted in the early 1990's. This would make him in his 50's when we see him in the MCU.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I would prefer they go with a teenage Ororo. I'd like to see her coming into her powers and eventually transition to Xaviers school as a student. And T'Challa already has a great gal.

That could be interesting. Instead of making her a love interest to T'Challa, a contemporary of Shuri.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I said this in the MCU X-Men thread just a few minutes ago:

- If you want to keep Magneto as a white man and in modern day, make him a survivor of the Balkan conflict that erupted in the early 1990's. This would make him in his 50's when we see him in the MCU.

I've said this before as well. A Bosniak victim of the Bosnian Serbs is the closest you'll get without making him over 80 years old. However, I doubt Marvel will explicitly reference those events. They didn't even use nazis that much in Captain America, focussing almost entirely on the fictional Hydra. I doubt they'd explicitly reference a real genocide that happened less than 30 years ago. Plus I don't know what problems may arise from making a jewish character muslim.

 

[flickchick85]

Thor will make close to a billion, if not surpass it.

I have little doubt it can do so. Especially if the trailers are chock full of more delicious Taika visuals...

 

[Shuri]

That could be interesting, especially with the dynamic between T'Challa and Nakia.

Storm doesn't have to be T'Challa's love interest. She could just be a friend.

 

[Shuri]

It's not about rational analysis with Raiders.

It's all about:

That's it.

Guy is bored. He's just here to kill some time.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I've said this before as well. A Bosniak victim of the Bosnian Serbs is the closest you'll get without making him over 80 years old. However, I doubt Marvel will explicitly reference those events. They didn't even use nazis that much in Captain America, focussing almost entirely on the fictional Hydra. I doubt they'd explicitly reference a real genocide that happened less than 30 years ago. Plus I don't know what problems may arise from making a jewish character muslim.

I have more faith in Marvel than to think they would sell out the power of a character firmly rooted in real life atrocities. What would be the reason not to? We still had Nazis very present in TFA. He still punched Hitler in the face. They just didn't want to give the real-life army sci-fi weapons.