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[jolldan]

If what Feige said about the future is true these are my predictions

Obviously Spider-Man will close out 2019 from then this is realistically what I think it will look like for the next 3 years. (If it was what I wanted to see it would be chock-full of Silver Surfer, Nova, X-Men and Fantastic Four movies)

2020
Black Widow
The Eternals

2021
Dr Strange 2
Shang Chi
Black Panther 2

2022
Spider-Man 3
GOTG 3
Captain Marvel 2

 

[Spider-Fan]

We have rumors that GotG3 may even start filming next year, so I am not writing that off as a 2021 release. Should it film then, I think GotG3 will be your May 2021 film.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If what Feige said about the future is true these are my predictions

Obviously Spider-Man will close out 2019 from then this is realistically what I think it will look like for the next 3 years. (If it was what I wanted to see it would be chock-full of Silver Surfer, Nova, X-Men and Fantastic Four movies)

2020
Black Widow
The Eternals

2021
Dr Strange 2
Shang Chi
Black Panther 2

2022
Spider-Man 3
GOTG 3
Captain Marvel 2

I think they will want to keep Black Panther 2 in Feb, so I would move that as the first release of 2022 likely. Maybe 2021, but I am seeing Shang-Chi in Feb or Nov of that year. Likely Feb since Nov worked for Dr. Strange in the past.

 

[jolldan]

I think they will want to keep Black Panther 2 in Feb, so I would move that as the first release of 2022 likely. Maybe 2021, but I am seeing Shang-Chi in Feb or Nov of that year. Likely Feb since Nov worked for Dr. Strange in the past.

Yeah in terms of what time of year they come out and in what order that's anyone's guess but I reckon that's the lineup for each year.

 

[Iceman]

We have rumors that GotG3 may even start filming next year, so I am not writing that off as a 2021 release. Should it film then, I think GotG3 will be your May 2021 film.

I hope Thor is involved and maybe a Nova intro.

 

[Shoppy]

I think they will want to keep Black Panther 2 in Feb, so I would move that as the first release of 2022 likely. Maybe 2021, but I am seeing Shang-Chi in Feb or Nov of that year. Likely Feb since Nov worked for Dr. Strange in the past.

I disagree, I think Black Panther is a guaranteed May release after the success of the first one, with GOTG 3 possibly taking a July slot in order to allow the MCU's new standard bearers T'Challa and Danvers to hold the May slots in 2021-22

Feb = testing ground for new properties (worked for the last couple of years with BP and CM)
May = pride of place for team-ups and characters who have proven themselves with their first film (Avengers, Cap sequels, GOTG 2 etc)
July = family friendly slot for characters with a lighter tone to their stories (Spider-Man, Ant-Man, .... and GOTG are big with the younger audience)
Nov = seasonal slot for darker releases (Thor sequels, Dr Strange, Eternals etc)

 

[Web-Head]

My prediction

May 2020: Black Widow

November 2020: The Eternals

2021
Shang Chi
Guardians 3
Doctor Strange 2
with Spidey 3 being the 4th film

2022
Black Panther 2
Captain Marvel 2
Nova as the possible new franchise

 

[Spider-Fan]

I disagree, I think Black Panther is a guaranteed May release after the success of the first one, with GOTG 3 possibly taking a July slot in order to allow the MCU's new standard bearers T'Challa and Danvers to hold the May slots in 2021-22

Feb = testing ground for new properties (worked for the last couple of years with BP and CM)
May = pride of place for team-ups and characters who have proven themselves with their first film (Avengers, Cap sequels, GOTG 2 etc)
July = family friendly slot for characters with a lighter tone to their stories (Spider-Man, Ant-Man, .... and GOTG are big with the younger audience)
Nov = seasonal slot for darker releases (Thor sequels, Dr Strange, Eternals etc)

I don't think it is going to work that way for Black Panther. I think it being released during Black History Month (which is Feb) here in the states got it a lot of good PR and a possible boost, and I think they will want to take advantage of that again. I think they definitely want BP to keep that tie.

 

[jolldan]

Seen a post about the plot of GOTG 3, read at your own risk although I very much doubt it to be true.

Spoiler: GOTG 3 Rumored Details

Rocket's creator is the High Evolutionary, Drax is in for a big surprise when he discovers his daughter is alive. Rocket also gets a love interest in the form of Lylla. Nebula and Star Lord will grow into closer friends.

Sounds like it could be interesting if true.

 

[Web-Head]

I don't think it is going to work that way for Black Panther. I think it being released during Black History Month (which is Feb) here in the states got it a lot of good PR and a possible boost, and I think they will want to take advantage of that again. I think they definitely want BP to keep that tie.

Agreed

 

[Shoppy]

So going on what people are saying about the placing of BP2 and GOTG3, that would give us...

Feb 2021 - Shang Chi
May 2021 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3
Nov 2021 - Doctor Strange 2

Feb 2022 - Black Panther 2
May 2022 - Captain Marvel 2
July 2022 - Nova (to give us our yearly new property)

...and I still think that would be cramming the cosmic properties together considering we'd then be looking at completing Ant-Man and Spider-Man trilogies and also fitting in maybe Captain Britain/Black Knight and Thunderbolts as the next two new properties before an ensemble film in May 2024.

Black Panther 2, Captain Marvel 2 and GOTG 3 being the May releases for 2021-23 still seems the way to go for me, with Ant-Man 3 in a July slot and Shang Chi and Nova in the Feb slots in 2021-22.

This could work...

July 2019 - Spider-Man: Far From Home

May 2020 - Black Widow
Nov 2020 - Eternals

Feb 2021 - Shang Chi
May 2021 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3
Nov 2021 - Doctor Strange 2

Feb 2022 - Nova
May 2022 - Black Panther 2
July 2022 - GiAnt-Man And The Wasp

Feb 2023 - Thunderbolts
May 2023 - Captain Marvel 2
July 2023 - Spider-Man 3

Feb 2024 - Captain Britain And The Black Knight
May 2024 - Avengers 5
July 2024 - Fantastic Four

 

[Web-Head]

I think Ant-Man 3 will be a 2022 release, actually. Could be looking at four films in '21 and '22

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am not sure if Nova will be 2022. It's certainly a contender, but I could also see Thunderbolts being slotted for 2022 or Spider-Man 3 since Sony has wanted a quicker turn around on Spider-Man films. In fact, I would say if the Sony deal is renewed, then Spider-Man 3 for 2022 makes the most sense to me.

So I am thinking the slate will be:

May 2020 - Black Widow
Nov 2020 - The Eternals

Feb 2021 - Shang-Chi
May 2021 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Nov 2021 - Doctor Strange 2

Feb 2022 - Black Panther 2
May 2022 - Captain Marvel 2
July 2022 - Spider-Man 3

Likely 2023 films with unspecified dates: Thunderbolts/Nova and Ant-Man 3. Possibly a 5th Avengers film here, as well. Unless they wait until 2024 for that. I am hoping they move to 4 films in 2022, though.

 

[Shoppy]

If Nova is the new property for 2022 (either in Feb or July) then I think which new property we get in 2023 depends on whether the third slot is in July or November ........ If it's November then that might be Captain Britain/Black Knight, but if it's July then I'd go with Thunderbolts in the February slot.

 

[Web-Head]

D23 can't get here fast enough

 

[Shoppy]

D23 can't get here fast enough

Who'd have thought 20 years ago that one day Black Widow would be a classic Disney Princess?

 

[NHawk19]

Part of the question is what years these movies will take place in. Remember EG ends in 2023 so potentially every movie up to that point will take place almost during the same time frame or in BW's case probably as a prequel. Also I don't know that Sony is going to want to wait more than 2 years for the next SM. There's only 2 years between HC and FFH.

May 2020 - Black Widow - Prequel
Nov 2020 - The Eternals - Prequel-ish may end after EG, may not get a sequel right away and could lead into a lot of other projects

Feb 2021 - Shang-Chi - takes place after 2023 or is a prequel and he got dusted.
May 2021 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - picks up right after EG so 2023/2024
July 2021 - Spider-Man 3 Follows FFH 2023 or 2024 I can't see Sony waiting more than 2 years
Nov 2021 - Doctor Strange 2 - Takes place 2023/2024

Feb 2022 - Black Panther 2 - Takes place 2023
May 2022 - Captain Marvel 2 - Takes place after 2023
July 2022 - Ant Man 3 - Takes place 2023/2024

Also I don't see Marvel calling their shot the way they did with IFW. Avengers may be on hiatus until 2024 when they finish picking up the pieces, establishing a new direction, and planting seeds for the future. Even with my predicted release schedule I think BP & CM are too far out. That would be 4 years between films for BP and 3 for Captain Marvel. Could see either being pulled in to 2021 with Shang Chi being pushed out to 2022 with 4 films that year.

 

[psylockolussus]

Thunderbolts might be better suited on Disney+

Yeah thats what I'm thinking if it eventually happens. None of the characters are Loki-level to headline a "villains" film.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah thats what I'm thinking if it eventually happens. None of the characters are Loki-level to headline a "villains" film.

Suicide Squad made a ton of money with a similar premise. So them not being "Loki-level" means nothing.

 

[Shoppy]

Part of the question is what years these movies will take place in. Remember EG ends in 2023 so potentially every movie up to that point will take place almost during the same time frame or in BW's case probably as a prequel. Also I don't know that Sony is going to want to wait more than 2 years for the next SM. There's only 2 years between HC and FFH.

May 2020 - Black Widow - Prequel
Nov 2020 - The Eternals - Prequel-ish may end after EG, may not get a sequel right away and could lead into a lot of other projects

Feb 2021 - Shang-Chi - takes place after 2023 or is a prequel and he got dusted.
May 2021 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - picks up right after EG so 2023/2024
July 2021 - Spider-Man 3 Follows FFH 2023 or 2024 I can't see Sony waiting more than 2 years
Nov 2021 - Doctor Strange 2 - Takes place 2023/2024

Feb 2022 - Black Panther 2 - Takes place 2023
May 2022 - Captain Marvel 2 - Takes place after 2023
July 2022 - Ant Man 3 - Takes place 2023/2024

Also I don't see Marvel calling their shot the way they did with IFW. Avengers may be on hiatus until 2024 when they finish picking up the pieces, establishing a new direction, and planting seeds for the future. Even with my predicted release schedule I think BP & CM are too far out. That would be 4 years between films for BP and 3 for Captain Marvel. Could see either being pulled in to 2021 with Shang Chi being pushed out to 2022 with 4 films that year.

I was just thinking the same thing about the timeline placings of upcoming films, It's going to take some work to keep that neat.

With the other properties in the queue i don't think there's any chance we'll see an Avengers 5 until May 2024, there are just too many solo sequels that need the slots.

That said though I still think they'll stick to the proposed one new property per year so Shang Chi in 2022 will likely happen ..... again it all comes down to where to best place BP2, CM2 and GOTG3 in the schedule.

If Black Panther sticks in February for the Black History Month connection then i think your suggestions work ...... the question would then be though what would we get in 2023-24?

Feb 2023 - Nova OR Thunderbolts?
May 2023 - ???? (This is where we're missing a crowd-puller if BP, CM, SM, AM and GOTG all have their sequels in 2021-22 .... It would have to be either an earlier release for Avengers 5 OR a Waititi-directed Thor 4)
Nov 2023 - Captain Britain And The Black Knight?

Feb 2024 - Thunderbolts OR Nova?
May 2024 - Avengers 5
Jul 2024 - Fantastic Four?

 

[psylockolussus]

Suicide Squad made a ton of money with a similar premise. So them not being "Loki-level" means nothing.

Suicide Squad made a ton of money but the roster mostly consists of new faces in live action film and are combat ready. It also had Joker. What exactly Justin Hammer / Zemo gonna do action wise? Abomination's last film was way back in 2008 and is probably forgotten by the public. Will Ross turn into Red Hulk? Ghost wasn't exactly that memorable in Ant-Man. Leader is no joker.

They are gonna recycle characters that aren't exactly exciting imo. If the main roster consists of characters we haven't seen before in the mcu or bigger characters, this would be more understandable to me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Suicide Squad made a ton of money but the roster mostly consists of new faces in live action film and are combat ready. It also had Joker. What exactly Justin Hammer / Zemo gonna do action wise? Abomination's last film was way back in 2008 and is probably forgotten by the public. Will Ross turn into Red Hulk? Ghost wasn't exactly that memorable in Ant-Man. Leader is no joker.

They are gonna recycle characters that aren't exactly exciting imo. If the main roster consists of characters we haven't seen before in the mcu or bigger characters, this would be more understandable to me.

Zemo I know didn't do much in the way of action in CW, but they themselves say he was in an elite kill squad, so he has some skills. We just never saw them. But the fact we seen these characters before doesn't make it less desirable than new characters would. At the end of the day, new or old characters, the premise is what will sell the movie. I think Marvel can do something more interesting offering redemption to characters we have seen vs new ones. New characters redeeming themselves has no emotional impact. Ones we have seen as firmly evil doing some good for whatever reason? Much more interesting.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

What's Hammer gonna do? I'll tell you what Hammer's gonna do.

 

[jolldan]

What's Hammer gonna do? I'll tell you what Hammer's gonna do.

MY GOD!

That looks like the type of thing that should be introduced with Hulk Hogans music lol

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Ghost wasn't saved, she was temporarily stabilized. When Scott was lost in the quantum realm it was because he was collecting more particles for her. She and Bill Foster were on the run at the end of that movie, but they could easily have been captured at some point.

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Ghost and Bill Foster being on the run would mean that Scott Lang was free and clear with no parole conditions when the Pym's and he went back to the quantum realm to covertly gather material for them or he was right back in the mix himself.

I guess best case when the Pym's went poof

Spoiler

Ghost was also snaptured and wherever they where for the 5 years the effects of her condition was suspended like every other life function