Marvel Films MCU Phase IV!

[Chiznuk]

What time is the panel Saturday?

5:15 PM PST.

 

[Tymminator]

Yeah, its gonna be interesting tomorrow.

I wonder if New Mutants will be addressed at all in any way. I actually want to check it out because I have to assume it would be better than Dark Phoenix.

Guys, the next 10 years have potential to really be interesting. The MCU almost reminds me of Astro City in that things an mostly happen in real time, so people can die, age out, have legacies, etc. So although its Marvel, its a very different Marvel than the comics.

Interesting and great time to be a fan.

 

[Detective Conan]

I wonder if New Mutants will be addressed at all in any way. I actually want to check it out because I have to assume it would be better than Dark Phoenix.

I don’t see why it would be addressed there. Tommorow’s presentation will be solely focused on the MCU. New Mutants (if it ever gets released in theaters) is not a MCU film therefore it won’t get any mention since Marvel Studios wasn’t involved.

If we hear any news about New Mutants it will be that the April 2020 release date has been cancelled, and it’s either shelved completely or it gets dumped on Disney Plus or Hulu, and that news will be from like a trade site like Hollywood Reporter or Deadline not from Marvel themselves. That’s a Fox production that Disney may or may not invest more money in.

 

[Tymminator]

I don’t see why it would be addressed there. Tommorow’s presentation will be solely focused on the MCU. New Mutants (if it ever gets released in theaters) is not a MCU film therefore it won’t get any mention since Marvel Studios wasn’t involved.

If we hear any news about New Mutants it will be that the April 2020 release date has been cancelled, and it’s either shelved completely or it gets dumped on Disney Plus or Hulu, and that news will be from like a trade site like Hollywood Reporter or Deadline not from Marvel themselves. That’s a Fox production that Disney may or may not invest more money in.

That the kind of word I'm talking about, if its going to be Hulu or Disney+ content, which no one should be surprised if it is.

For the films I wonder who they will all announce for casting, like Mike Moh for Shang Chi or whatever.

Also, I suspect some title changes for some of the Disney+ Marvel Shows....


We will see.

 

[Darkprime]

Big day tomorrow. Phase IV reveal...Hopefully. Praying for a Spider-Man deal renewal. But I feel like we used up all our karma to get the fox deal closed lol. Trying to keep expectations in check. Mostly expecting a lot of sequels. Maybe one or two cool unexpected announcements.A long-term Spider-Man renewal and Fantastic Four announcements would be the show winners for me. All though something like Nova and Black Knight would probably make more sense. I'm worried tho without a Fox property announcement the Phase IV slate will feel underwhelming. Still hopefully Phase IV is exciting and unique. The Thor 4 confirmation has me pretty hyped. Would be cool to get a villain and storyline confirmation.

I don't believe I've posted my Phase 4 Schedule before.

Black Widow (May 2020) - Production has begun. As long as their aren't any production issues I don't see it not being given this date.

Eternals(November 2020) - New November franchise ala Doctor Strange. Production set to begin in August or September 2019. One year turn around.

Black Panther 2 (February 2021) - Nearly 3 years after the first movie would be in line for a sequel by then. I also believe they are going to Iron Man 2 this sequel and fast track it and get it behind the camera as quickly as possible.

Doctor Strange 2(May 2021) Doctor Strange moves to the big may slot after the positive response to IW and End Game.

Spider-Man 3 (July 2021) Sony sticking to the Spider-Man movie every 2 years schedule. As a result we get 4 movies in 2021.

Shang-Chi (November 2021) Using the November slot to introduce a new Franchise like Doctor Strange in 2016

Captain Marvel 2 (February 2022) -Nearly 3 years after the first movie would be about the right time for a sequel

Guardians of The Galaxy 3 or Thor 4 (May, 2022) - If not Guardians 3 then I guess this could in theory be Thor 4.Even though Thor is typically a November franchise Marvel might feel like its strong enough after Ragnarok,IW,EG to move back to the big may slot. Which it hasn't held since the first Thor in 2011.

Ant-Man 3 or Thor 4 (July 2022) - With Ant-Man it would be nearly 4 years after the second film gives them a decent amount of time to rework the franchise. Could also be Guardians 3 James Gunn might need some extra time after finishing his other movie. Fun fact. Ragnarok was actually supposed to be released in July 2017 but got pushed back to November when Spider-Man came back.

Nova or Black Knight (February 2023) - Using the February slot to introduce a new franchise like they did with Black Panther in 2018

New Avengers (April 2023) Marvel goes back to the 3-4 year gap between Avengers sequels

 

[Detective Conan]

Today is the big day guys!

I have one dumb prediction that isn’t going to happen. Ryan Reynolds will make a surprise appearance at Marvel Studio’s Hall H Panel today and Deadpool 3 will be announced. Yeah, yeah I know it’s been said that the Deadpool sequels will be under Fox but I think Marvel Studios will have creative say on how the movies are made.

 

[ImSGirl95]

How many hours left?

 

[Abudefduf]

As I already said I'm not expecting a full reveal of the Phase 4 slate but please, just tell us which characters are in Black Widow and Eternals and who's playing them. That would be more than enough for me.

 

[aleh0211]

Yeah, its gonna be interesting tomorrow.

I wonder if New Mutants will be addressed at all in any way. I actually want to check it out because I have to assume it would be better than Dark Phoenix.

Guys, the next 10 years have potential to really be interesting. The MCU almost reminds me of Astro City in that things an mostly happen in real time, so people can die, age out, have legacies, etc. So although its Marvel, its a very different Marvel than the comics.

Interesting and great time to be a fan.

I think New Mutants will absolutely asked about by reporters somewhere somehow.

Yes it's a Fox production but now it's officially under Disney/Marvel and unlike Dark Phoenix...they are in control now of this property and can approach it however it makes sense from a financial point of view.

It's of course easy for us to say just dump it on Hulu or whatever. But there are contractual obligations behind this movie still otherwise they would have done it by now. Why keep pushing it back? Those are questions only the higher ups have answers to.

 

[Shuri]

No Comic-con thread?

 

[Detective Conan]

No Comic-con thread?

Return of Marvel to SDCC

 

[Flint Marko]

It’s the big day boys.

They’ve got some sort of bomb they’re gonna drop. Either F4, X-men, Hulk, something we’re not quite expecting.

 

[Moridin]

5:15 PM PST.

Thanks. That'd be 1:15am Irish/UK time.

Big day tomorrow. Phase IV reveal...Hopefully. Praying for a Spider-Man deal renewal. But I feel like we used up all our karma to get the fox deal closed lol. Trying to keep expectations in check. Mostly expecting a lot of sequels. Maybe one or two cool unexpected announcements.A long-term Spider-Man renewal and Fantastic Four announcements would be the show winners for me. All though something like Nova and Black Knight would probably make more sense. I'm worried tho without a Fox property announcement the Phase IV slate will feel underwhelming. Still hopefully Phase IV is exciting and unique. The Thor 4 confirmation has me pretty hyped. Would be cool to get a villain and storyline confirmation.

I don't believe I've posted my Phase 4 Schedule before.

Black Widow (May 2020) - Production has begun. As long as their aren't any production issues I don't see it not being given this date.

Eternals(November 2020) - New November franchise ala Doctor Strange. Production set to begin in August or September 2019. One year turn around.

Black Panther 2 (February 2021) - Nearly 3 years after the first movie would be in line for a sequel by then. I also believe they are going to Iron Man 2 this sequel and fast track it and get it behind the camera as quickly as possible.

Doctor Strange 2(May 2021) Doctor Strange moves to the big may slot after the positive response to IW and End Game.

Spider-Man 3 (July 2021) Sony sticking to the Spider-Man movie every 2 years schedule. As a result we get 4 movies in 2021.

Shang-Chi (November 2021) Using the November slot to introduce a new Franchise like Doctor Strange in 2016

Captain Marvel 2 (February 2022) -Nearly 3 years after the first movie would be about the right time for a sequel

Guardians of The Galaxy 3 or Thor 4 (May, 2022) - If not Guardians 3 then I guess this could in theory be Thor 4.Even though Thor is typically a November franchise Marvel might feel like its strong enough after Ragnarok,IW,EG to move back to the big may slot. Which it hasn't held since the first Thor in 2011.

Ant-Man 3 or Thor 4 (July 2022) - With Ant-Man it would be nearly 4 years after the second film gives them a decent amount of time to rework the franchise. Could also be Guardians 3 James Gunn might need some extra time after finishing his other movie. Fun fact. Ragnarok was actually supposed to be released in July 2017 but got pushed back to November when Spider-Man came back.

Nova or Black Knight (February 2023) - Using the February slot to introduce a new franchise like they did with Black Panther in 2018

New Avengers (April 2023) Marvel goes back to the 3-4 year gap between Avengers sequels

RE: BP2, Coogler only just started writing around early June (according to Feige), so it won't be ready to film until next summer, meaning it'll be released a year+ after that, ie, it won't make a February 2021 release.

Whereas Dr Strange looks like it'll start filming in January 2020, so it should be ready for release February or May 2021.

The rumours about Shang-Chi's filming date are super confusing. "This fall in Australia". Cretton only signed on in March, he'd only have about 8 months to prep, which is not nearly enough for film of this size, especially considering he's never done action before. Unless they mean Autumn southern hemisphere, which would be next March-May, a full year after Cretton signed on, would make way more sense.

 

[The_Manhunter]

My predicted slate:


April 2020: Black Widow

November 2020: Eternals

February 2021: Shang-Chi

May 2021: Doctor Strange 2

July 2021: Spider-Man 3 (This date will be a suprise addition to keep the Spidey in July every 2 years going)

November 2021: Thor 4

February 2022: Black Panther

May 2022: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3

July 2022: Nova



Will be the announced slate, with



2023: Ant-Man 3

2023: Captain Marvel 2

2023: Spider-Man 4

2023: Fantastic Four

2024: Shang-Chi 2

2024: Avengers 5/New Avengers

2024: Doctor Strange 2



Also in the pipeline. X-Men will follow in 2025.

 

[TheGuy]

I think it's possible that between 2020 and 2024 we might have a year with four movies.

 

[Shoppy]

My predicted slate:


April 2020: Black Widow

November 2020: Eternals

February 2021: Shang-Chi

May 2021: Doctor Strange 2

July 2021: Spider-Man 3 (This date will be a suprise addition to keep the Spidey in July every 2 years going)

November 2021: Thor 4

February 2022: Black Panther

May 2022: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3

July 2022: Nova



Will be the announced slate, with



2023: Ant-Man 3

2023: Captain Marvel 2

2023: Spider-Man 4

2023: Fantastic Four

2024: Shang-Chi 2

2024: Avengers 5/New Avengers

2024: Doctor Strange 3



Also in the pipeline. X-Men will follow in 2025.

Swap Doctor Strange 2 and Thor 4,
replace Fantastic Four with Dark Avengers
and give Eternals a sequel instead of Shang Chi

 

[Raiders]

Oh no! Feige is losing his mojo! He’s clearly becoming a hack! What’s he thinking doing a rare fourth installment about a character who’s third film recently creatively rejuvenated him after his previous middling installments and is one of the few remaining original Avengers that’s not either dead, or gravely injured, or getting his own streaming service spinoff series! Feige has clearly gone bankrupt with ideas indeed!

Feige how could you have forsaken us!

Even I have to admit, I love your sarcasm

 

[Raiders]

Who will be Feige surprise guess, I think it both X-Men and F4 related.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It’s the big day boys.

They’ve got some sort of bomb they’re gonna drop. Either F4, X-men, Hulk, something we’re not quite expecting.

I hope you're right.

… but I'm not betting on it.

 

[Abudefduf]

Unfortunately I will be asleep long before the panel starts. I can't wait to wake up tomorrow to the announcement of a She-Hulk movie. I'm speaking it into existence. Surely I will not be let down!

Seriously though, I hope there will be some surprises.

 

[Iceman]

There are reports of a War Machine streaming show be developed.

I hope we get that. I’d like to see the focus on Rhodey for once.

 

[flickchick85]

It’s the big day boys.

 

[Iceman]

The MCU is making the same mistakes XCU did, keeping stale characters around too long.

EG made easily more than 10 times as much as DP. Even the MCU solos this year are making 4 times as much, and also much more than any X-film. You won’t get taken seriously if you keep repeating aggressive proclamations that turn out to be rubbish like Feige’s Fabled 3 Film rule. If you think Thor 4 is a bad idea, quantify that with a box office guess. How bad are we talking? Only $800m?

 

[Darkprime]

Thor 4 has billion dollar potential imo.

 

[Raiders]

EG made easily more than 10 times as much as DP. Even the MCU solos this year are making 4 times as much, and also much more than any X-film. You won’t get taken seriously if you keep repeating aggressive proclamations that turn out to be rubbish like Feige’s Fabled 3 Film rule. If you think Thor 4 is a bad idea, quantify that with a box office guess. How bad are we talking? Only $800m?

I don’t care about box office, my focus is on creativity, artistic value and wanting to see different heroes. Instead of keeping heroes like Thor that we have already seen in six movies.