MCU Power Tiers

[Chance Jackson]

Spider-Man is so weird to place. On one hand, he's clowned multiple times in quick succession by a Cap who looks as if he's barely trying. On the other hand, he makes quick work of both Bucky and Falcon.

Bucky is superior to shieldless Cap, and a small margin behind shielded Cap. The idea that he falls so short in comparison to Cap when it comes to engaging Peter is a tad off.

They never should have made Spidey "No Sell" catching Bucky's arm

 

[BigThor]

They never should have made Spidey "No Sell" catching Bucky's arm

That was terribly inconsistent and absolutely cringe worthy, going from no selling Winter Soldiers arm to getting embarassed by Cap.

I hope the Russos don't turn Thor into a jobber to make Cap look good during IW and A4.

 

[Surfer]

That was terribly inconsistent and absolutely cringe worthy, going from no selling Winter Soldiers arm to getting embarassed by Cap.

I hope the Russos don't turn Thor into a jobber to make Cap look good during IW and A4.

I just figured the inconsistency had more to do with Spider-Man being inexperienced. Since he is more powerful, when he makes the right moves he wins against the likes of Cap and Winter Soldier, when he is sloppy due to his inexperience he gets owned.

Surfer

 

[Surfer]

The battle between Captain America and Gamora has ended, and they have been placed in the appropriate power tiers according to the majority of people that provided placement. A new battle will begin by jaqua99 between Daredevil and Black Widow later today, so be on the look out for it.

Surfer

 

[Batmannerism]

I just figured the inconsistency had more to do with Spider-Man being inexperienced. Since he is more powerful, when he makes the right moves he wins against the likes of Cap and Winter Soldier, when he is sloppy due to his inexperience he gets owned.

Surfer

Once again we agree. Spider-Man may be a noob but he can lift a car. - what he lacks in skill he certainly makes up for in power.

Bucky'a mistake was throwing a haymaker against a guy with superhuman reflexes and strength. ( Also I think that people overlook just how much he relied on weapons in TWS - which was a lot !)

 

[BigThor]

Once again we agree. Spider-Man may be a noob but he can lift a car. - what he lacks in skill he certainly makes up for in power.

Bucky'a mistake was throwing a haymaker against a guy with superhuman reflexes and strength. ( Also I think that people overlook just how much he relied on weapons in TWS - which was a lot !)

Bucky did use a lot of weapons in The Winter Soldier.

 

[ludovica]

Normal Bucky and brainwashed Bucky are two totally different fights to take on IMO.

 

[Batmannerism]

Normal Bucky and brainwashed Bucky are two totally different fights to take on IMO.

Totally agree, brainwashed or as I like to call him "killer zombie Bucky" is a force to be reckoned with because HDGAF !

I think that zombie Bucky could have defeated suitless Black Panther, had he not been so keen on escape.

However suit wearing BP vs regular Bucky is a different story.

Good point !

 

[Surfer]

Wouldn't it be easier to just call him Winter Soldier when he is in a Brainwashed or Killer Zombie Bucky state and just call him Bucky when he is not? Or do you guys see that there is more to it then that?

Just curious.

Thanks!

Surfer

 

[ludovica]

Seeing how Winter Soldier may remain his code name, it could be confusing.
You are right though.

 

[Batmannerism]

Wouldn't it be easier to just call him Winter Soldier when he is in a Brainwashed or Killer Zombie Bucky state and just call him Bucky when he is not? Or do you guys see that there is more to it then that?

Just curious.

Thanks!

Surfer

Nope, that works for me - Winter Soldier or Bucky, good call.

 

[Surfer]

Seeing how Winter Soldier may remain his code name, it could be confusing.
You are right though.

Well it was a code name given to him while he was brainwashed, so I think that is the moniker I think most people associate with him when he takes on that personality. I mean when he is brainwashed he has no idea who Bucky is, he literally becomes the Winter Soldier in his mind like a split personality.

Also, I don't see him going back to that name unless he is brainwashed for a third time, because their was evil associated with it while in his brainwashed state. So, most likely it is something he would want to put behind him.

However, to avoid confusion when we do a battle, we can always add to the name to specify.

Winter Soldier (Brainwashed)

Bucky Barnes (Not Brainwashed)

Hope that makes sense.

Surfer

 

[Surfer]

Well the Daredevil Vs. Black Widow fight has ended and they have now been added to the official part of the power tier list based on your votes and the majority of tier placement suggestions. A new battle is also now beginning between Ultron Prime and Hela. You can join the fun by clicking on the link below.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=536757

This battle will go from Sunday 11/26/17 to Sunday 12/03/17.

Surfer

 

[Yowza]

Surfer or anyone else,

Have you ever played Marvel's Overpower card game? I remember picking up a few decks back in the 90's but never actually played it. More info. can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverPower

Here's a listing of all the cards released: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OverPower_card_sets

 

[Surfer]

Surfer or anyone else,

Have you ever played Marvel's Overpower card game? I remember picking up a few decks back in the 90's but never actually played it. More info. can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OverPower

Here's a listing of all the cards released: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OverPower_card_sets

Same here, when I was a young person back in the 90's I remember picking up some decks with the intent to play it, but never actually did play it at all. I think that was mostly because I was interested, but could not find others around me that shared that interest. That seems so long ago. Now I feel old. Lol

Surfer

 

[Fosterson]

I'd argue that Ronan (w/ Power Stone) should be in the Cosmic Tier and above Surtur. Surtur destroying Asgard really isn't that impressive given that Asgard in the MCU only seems to be about as big as New York. In contrast, the Power Stone was shown to annihilate full-sized planets.

 

[Surfer]

I'd argue that Ronan (w/ Power Stone) should be in the Cosmic Tier and above Surtur. Surtur destroying Asgard really isn't that impressive given that Asgard in the MCU only seems to be about as big as New York. In contrast, the Power Stone was shown to annihilate full-sized planets.

Keep in mind the characters in Red are speculative placement and that when voting on the battles we are asking fans to comment which tier they believe each character belongs in. Therefore if Ronan with the Power Stone is in the Transcendant tier as a speculative placement, fans still have the opportunity to tell us he belongs in the Cosmic Tier placement if that is where they believe he belongs. So, with that said we are sometimes getting people that vote and then do not provide a comment on placement. In those cases it is either left to jaqua99, BigThor and myself (Surfer) to place the characters, or in the case that we only have a few we combine those placement votes with our placement votes to come up with the placement. So, I can't emphasize enough how important it is that people include this information in the comments, but in the end we can't make people do it, only request they do.

Hope that makes sense.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

I'd argue that Ronan (w/ Power Stone) should be in the Cosmic Tier and above Surtur. Surtur destroying Asgard really isn't that impressive given that Asgard in the MCU only seems to be about as big as New York. In contrast, the Power Stone was shown to annihilate full-sized planets.

Surtur actually DID it though, Ronan never accomplished it so him destroying a planet is still speculative as we haven't seen it.

I've seen people bring up Asgard's size to try to discredit Surtur's planet busting feat before. People fail to realize they way Surtur destroyed Asgard had nothing to do with it's size he blew up the planet's core and every planet has a core no matter the size.

 

[Fosterson]

Surtur actually DID it though, Ronan never accomplished it so him destroying a planet is still speculative as we haven't seen it.

Except we did see the Power Stone destroy a planet. Granted, it wasn't Ronan using it, but I don't see how that makes a difference. Ronan was certainly capable of using the Stone effectively (like when he one-shotted the entire Nova Corps) so there's no reason to think he couldn't have destroyed Xandar if he hadn't been challenged to a dance-off.

I've seen people bring up Asgard's size to try to discredit Surtur's planet busting feat before. People fail to realize they way Surtur destroyed Asgard had nothing to do with it's size he blew up the planet's core and every planet has a core no matter the size.

True, although the fact that Asgard is flat probably means that its core is shallower than it is on a spherical planet. Also IIRC, didn't Ronan tell Thanos that he was going to burn Xandar to its core or something?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not lowballing Surtur. The guy is ridiculously OP. I just think Ronan was even more powerful.

 

[BigThor]

Except we did see the Power Stone destroy a planet. Granted, it wasn't Ronan using it, but I don't see how that makes a difference. Ronan was certainly capable of using the Stone effectively (like when he one-shotted the entire Nova Corps) so there's no reason to think he couldn't have destroyed Xandar if he hadn't been challenged to a dance-off.



True, although the fact that Asgard is flat probably means that its core is shallower than it is on a spherical planet. Also IIRC, didn't Ronan tell Thanos that he was going to burn Xandar to its core or something?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not lowballing Surtur. The guy is ridiculously OP. I just think Ronan was even more powerful.

It was a Celestial who destroyed a planet with the power stone and yes Asgard was flat and more shallow than most planets.

However, Surtur is also able to project flame blasts from his sword, there's no reason to think he can blast through a planets core. Also this was under his own power, anyone can be powerful with a power stone his on screen feat still trumps anything Ronan actually did. Anything different is just speculation and words nothing more.

 

[Batmannerism]

Re Ronan+ the infinity stone. Blowing up a nova corps fleet and surviving the hadron enforcer blast are pretty impressive feats - and it was only the infinity stone itself that destroyed him in the end.

Having said all that I can't get past what a pouty ***** Ronan was. Could he take Surtur Prime ? Maybe?

Although we only see the Celestial ( Eson?) destroy a planet's surface - whereas Surtur actually obliterated the entire world, and Asgard probably didn't obey the laws of nature as it was seemingly flat yet had gravity and an atmosphere? Any astrophysicists out there? Is any of that possible ? Where was all the water coming from and going to ?

Anyway to me Surtur Prime seemed more badass, so he gets mad props for that.

I guess the corollary question is whether Hela could take on an infinity stone wielder? On Asgard, at full power, maybe. What has the destruction of Asgard done to her ? Even before she powered up by going home, she effortlessly shattered Mjolnir.

Truth seems to be that nearly anyone with an infinity stone is near the top of the list.

Imagine Squirrel Girl with a stone, she'd smush Thanos like a bug.

 

[Fosterson]

Truth seems to be that nearly anyone with an infinity stone is near the top of the list.

Except for Malekith. The guy got beaten by Natalie Portman lol.

 

[BigThor]

Except for Malekith. The guy got beaten by Natalie Portman lol.

Technically he got beat by Thor, using Natalie Portman's device.

 

[Surfer]

The battle between Ultron Prime and Hela has ended, and a new battle between Ghost Rider and Abomination has begun. See below.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=536963

I will be placing Ultron Prime and Hela in the appropriate Power Tiers based on the suggestions of the couple fans that commented on their tier placement combined with the placements myself, BigThor and jaqua99 feel they belong in. It is important to include the tier these characters belong in when voting otherwise it falls completely to the 3 of us to decide. So, please keep it in mind.

Surfer

 

[Batmannerism]

Except for Malekith. The guy got beaten by Natalie Portman lol.[/QUOTt

Technically he got beat by Thor, using Natalie Portman's device.

Even so, a guy with an infinity stone got taken out reasonably easily ( well it was tough for Thor but Nat didn't even break a nail ) in comparison Dr Strange stalemated Dormammu with a stone and the GOTG crew all nearly died ( they had to use the power of friendship).

Wonder what Ultron would have been like with a stone ?