MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[Docker2.0]

Why do you ask questions that you've already answered?

Went over your head buddy............

 

[InCali]

Went over your head buddy............

My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Cap wins in a shut out. Next up: viewer requested match:
The Black order(no Thanos!)

vs Ghost Rider

Quake

and Deathlok

Who you got peeps?

Ghost Rider on his own will be too much for the Black Order. Just don't make the Spirit of Vengeance version fight them, that one is rather useless in a fight.

 

[Docker2.0]

Ghost Rider in a shut out. Next up:

Worthy Captain America

vs Bleeding armor Ironman

Who you got peeps?

 

[InCali]

Cap

 

[Batmannerism]

Cap

Ghost Rider in a shut out. Next up:

Worthy Captain America

vs Bleeding armor Ironman

Who you got peeps?

Thunder Cap takes this IMO. The nanotech can be smashed by sufficient force ( as Thanos demonstrated ) and wielding Mjolnir Cap has enough force to knock down Thanos, so I think he would smash nanotech Tony to bits.

 

[Docker2.0]

Cap

Why?! Expand on your answers man!

 

[Docker2.0]

Thunder Cap takes this IMO. The nanotech can be smashed by sufficient force ( as Thanos demonstrated ) and wielding Mjolnir Cap has enough force to knock down Thanos, so I think he would smash nanotech Tony to bits.

Worthy Cap didn't make Thanos bleed, BA Ironman did. Not sure Cap is anywhere near as strong as Thanos at all.

 

[Batmannerism]

Worthy Cap didn't make Thanos bleed, BA Ironman did. Not sure Cap is anywhere near as strong as Thanos at all.

Thanos was wearing armour when he fought Cap, not so vs Tony, and Nanotech Tony didn't knock Thanos flat on his back.

The one advantage Tony has is that Thunder Cap can't use lightning against him, or it will just give him more power.

In the Cap + Thor + Tony vs Thanos fight, Tony achieves nearly nothing other than getting flattened ( I have always asserted that Endgame Thanos was actually deadlier because he relied on his skills, strength and weapons rather than the stones) whereas Cap does the best one on one with the Mad Titan.

Cap has a huge skill advantage over Tony, and if he can sufficiently damage the nanotech armour the fight is over. In IW Cap was strong enough to stop Thanos closing his hand and tough enough to take a full on punch from Thanos and get up a few moments later. When you add Mjolnir to that I can't see Tony winning in many circumstances.
If Cap knocks Tony down and puts Mjolnir on his chest the fight is over - Tony ain't worthy.

I give this to Thunder Cap 8/10 at least, and I feel I'm being conservative.

 

[Docker2.0]

Yeah but Tony not only made Thanos bleed but he made him bleed WITH the infinity stones...............just saying.................

 

[InCali]

Why?! Expand on your answers man!

No. I'm succinct and the strong silent type.

Plus, my posts go over your head.

 

[Stormborn]

Worthy Cap. No contest.

More skilled and with the enchantment on Mjolnir giving him "the power of Thor" he's also stronger and presumably has Thor's off the charts durability.

Hell, we saw this exact version of Iron Man KO'd by one (accidental) hit from Thor.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm going to give it to Mr. Stark. Cap is not feeling too good.

 

[Batmannerism]

Yeah but Tony not only made Thanos bleed but he made him bleed WITH the infinity stones...............just saying.................

I think the Mad Titan said it best " All that for one drop of blood" because after that beats the crap out of Tony using mostly his bare hands and short a blast from the power stone, and nearly kills him until Strange intervenes.

Thanos without the stones wipes the floor with Tony and Thor - especially Tony, who has zero impact on Thanos at all - compared with Thunder Cap.

Anyway we'll see how the vote goes down. Cheers.

 

[Stormborn]

Worthy Cap didn't make Thanos bleed, BA Ironman did. Not sure Cap is anywhere near as strong as Thanos at all.

I'm going to give it to Mr. Stark. Cap is not feeling too good.

You guys did see what happened when Tony took a no holds barred hit from Mjolnir right?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You guys did see what happened when Tony took a no holds barred hit from Mjolnir right?

Iron Man evaded missiles while in MK III suits, they seem to be as fast as Mjolnir in MCU. I think he has a better chance of winning with a better armor.

 

[Stormborn]

Iron Man evaded missiles while in MK III suits, they seem to be as fast as Mjolnir in MCU. I think he has a better chance of winning with a better armor.

If I remember right, Tony in the MK III had around the same flight speed as the F22 jets (1,500mph) and he had a hard time evading their missiles.

The Bleeding Edge armour is faster (fast enough to catch up to Maw's spaceship before it left the atmosphere) but it's got nothing on Mjolnir's best speed feat:

If we trust the math from this respect thread that was 700,000mph+.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm going to give it to Mr. Stark. Cap is not feeling too good.

 

[Docker2.0]

You guys did see what happened when Tony took a no holds barred hit from Mjolnir right?

He just took an ass whooping from Thanos. Let's not pretend like that hammer was the only thing that hit him.

 

[InCali]

Doc,

Did you vote or are you waiting to see whether it’s within one vote? LOL. Maybe you can vote twice?

 

[Batmannerism]

Iron Man evaded missiles while in MK III suits, they seem to be as fast as Mjolnir in MCU. I think he has a better chance of winning with a better armor.

Ummmm..... evading missiles is one thing, impressive yes, but Mjolnir can change direction completely and instantly come to stop in mid air. It has much greater aerial agility than any missile, and can ignore the laws of physics.

To be honest evasion only works when you have space to do it in. Despite his huge mobility in the armour Tony likes to fight up close and personal, even with his ranged attacks. Against Thunder Cap that's fatal.


As soon as he held Mjolnir Cap was able to do combination moves with the hammer and his shield which staggered Thanos ( @Stormborn isn't going to like this but Cap looked as good as Thor, if not better using Mjolnir, although Endgame Thor was nowhere near his best ) - against that kind of tactical skill backed up by the power of a god I don't see Tony coming out ahead except in exceptional circumstances.

 

[Docker2.0]

Doc,

Did you vote or are you waiting to see whether it’s within one vote? LOL. Maybe you can vote twice?

 

[Stormborn]

He just took an ass whooping from Thanos. Let's not pretend like that hammer was the only thing that hit him.

Nah, the hit from Mjolnir alone was enough to KO him. If you rewatch the fight, Thanos barely touches Tony before that moment.

As soon as he held Mjolnir Cap was able to do combination moves with the hammer and his shield which staggered Thanos ( @Stormborn isn't going to like this but Cap looked as good as Thor, if not better using Mjolnir, although Endgame Thor was nowhere near his best )

No, I agree actually. We didn't get to see him do everything we've seen Thor do but Cap using the shield and hammer in harmony with each other was an awesome skill feat.

Considering Cap had never even held Mjolnir before, my guess is the "whoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor" enchantment includes gaining Thor's skill with a hammer. That's how it worked for Jane Foster in the comics.

 

[Docker2.0]

Nah, the hit from Mjolnir alone was enough to KO him. If you rewatch the fight, Thanos barely touches Tony before that moment.

 

[Bayne]

I vote Cap, for all the reasons already mentioned.