Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

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I have a question do you guys think a movie with the original five members could work? Or should they add a few characters we’ve never seen before. I honestly wouldn’t mind waiting to see Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit l, etc added in later films.

I wouldn’t mind if Thunderbird was the sixth member in the first movie and died at the end.
 
I'd be fine with the original five, but they'd probably allude to there being a lot more mutants out there so they'd have cameos.
 
I have a question do you guys think a movie with the original five members could work? Or should they add a few characters we’ve never seen before. I honestly wouldn’t mind waiting to see Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit l, etc added in later films.

I wouldn’t mind if Thunderbird was the sixth member in the first movie and died at the end.
Original five in the comics was Cyclops, Beast, Angel, Iceman, and Marvel Girl, right?
 
I have a question do you guys think a movie with the original five members could work? Or should they add a few characters we’ve never seen before. I honestly wouldn’t mind waiting to see Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit l, etc added in later films.

I wouldn’t mind if Thunderbird was the sixth member in the first movie and died at the end.
I think MCU has proven that they can make anything work. However, I feel that the Original 5 team was always less than the sum of it's parts. It was a team with two class clowns (Beast and iceman) and the bad boy of the team I guess was supposed to be Angel.
 
They'll probably give them their more recent personas with like Cyclops being the straight laced leader, Iceman being the clown, Beast being the sarcastic nerd, Angel being the rich kid aka a Chad, and Jean being the girl and the one holding it all together.
 
I have a question do you guys think a movie with the original five members could work? Or should they add a few characters we’ve never seen before. I honestly wouldn’t mind waiting to see Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit l, etc added in later films.

I wouldn’t mind if Thunderbird was the sixth member in the first movie and died at the end.
I'd be fine with the original 5 but adding Thunderbird (the only poc) only to kill him off wouldn't go over well
 
That's why Thunderbird was the best thing about "The Gifted".

I would bet money that Mr. Sinister/Nathaniel Essex will be one of the first big villains they deal with; he's the most popular baddie that they haven't used, and even teased him in the post-credits for Apocalypse.

He's a tricky character to adapt, mostly due to his bonkers name and attire. Only the 90s cartoon brought him to life successfully, mostly by not bothering to explain why he is the way he is and jumping right to making him scary as eff.

I'm curious if the MCU version will get his origin in the present-day story or if they'll stick to the source and make him super-old and already powered.
 
I'd be fine with the original 5 but adding Thunderbird (the only poc) only to kill him off wouldn't go over well
Oh yea you’re probably right. It’ll be Darwin all over again. Well maybe off him in the sequel on a mission.
 
I have a question do you guys think a movie with the original five members could work? Or should they add a few characters we’ve never seen before. I honestly wouldn’t mind waiting to see Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit l, etc added in later films.

I wouldn’t mind if Thunderbird was the sixth member in the first movie and died at the end.
I’d say the best way to do it would be to have the original 5 introduced, than make the plot about them finding out a collection of other mutants is being illegally held by the US government and making it their mission to free them, eventually merging the two groups together, and going ahead and defining the X-Men’s antagonistic relationship with authorities.

Maybe one of the kids escapes and makes contact with the original 5 X-Men.

I know I’ve said this before, but maybe X-23 is the one who escapes and makes contact with the X-Men? That way a Wolverine character is involved, and you can really throw some crazy stuff into the chemistry of the group once Logan actually arrives; her and Cyke getting along well would make the traditional Wolverine vs Cyclops rivalry more nuanced and funny.

Soooo... how’s about Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, Beast, and Angel are alerted to a problem by X-23, to rescue her other compatriots, Storm (full punk haircut and attitude), Polaris (for a later Magneto connection, though maybe she’d his granddaughter or something), Dust (for some more diversity and because her powerset is still dangerous), and Nightcrawler, with other younger mutants like Jubilee and others being collected as well.
I would bet money that Mr. Sinister/Nathaniel Essex will be one of the first big villains they deal with; he's the most popular baddie that they haven't used, and even teased him in the post-credits for Apocalypse.

He's a tricky character to adapt, mostly due to his bonkers name and attire. Only the 90s cartoon brought him to life successfully, mostly by not bothering to explain why he is the way he is and jumping right to making him scary as eff.
Sinister feels like an excellent villain to have as a starter, especially given his mad scientist side. You could easily make him the guy who has been gathering mutants in a kind of twisted reversal of Xavier and Magneto’s usual schtick, and I’d saying making him a 200+ year old mutate and leaning into his creepy nature would work wonders.

And as to the name and his general appearance, here’s an idea: Jean picks up on other people’s memories and impressions of him to get a “sinister” impression of a manipulative figure before the real deal appears and calls him such to describe how creepy he is... and as a telepath himself, Essex likes the appellation and takes it informally.
 
When you're dealing with mutants as a metaphor for marginalized groups, the original 5 undercut things a bit.:funny:
Maybe start with them in a prologue, but they should have the later additions to the team as core characters in this.
 
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That's why Thunderbird was the best thing about "The Gifted".

I would bet money that Mr. Sinister/Nathaniel Essex will be one of the first big villains they deal with; he's the most popular baddie that they haven't used, and even teased him in the post-credits for Apocalypse.

He's a tricky character to adapt, mostly due to his bonkers name and attire. Only the 90s cartoon brought him to life successfully, mostly by not bothering to explain why he is the way he is and jumping right to making him scary as eff.

I'm curious if the MCU version will get his origin in the present-day story or if they'll stick to the source and make him super-old and already powered.
I feel like Sinister works best as someone who works in the shadows and pulls the strings of other characters. If they do Sinister, he should definitely be an overarching villain instead of a one-off.

I don't think Essex is that difficult to explain. Just follow his basic origin
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In today's environment I would imagine that would bring down the wrath of the SJWs.
Rightfully so. It's a tired trope in fiction-- killing off the token poc to further the plot/give emotional resonance to the non-minority characters.

The only way they should ever kill off Thunderbird in a movie is if James is also in the movie and they have developed their relationship enough for John's death to actually matter. And his death needs to be balanced by having a diverse team so they're not killing the only non-white character
 
In today's environment I would imagine that would bring down the wrath of the SJWs.
And for good reason. You make it sound like a bad thing in "today's environment".

There is absolutely no way that Marvel does an all straight, all white X-Men line-up. Either we get a mix of different diverse heroes or there will be race-swapping. Or both.
 
When you're dealing with mutants as a metaphor for marginalized groups, the original 5 undercut things a bit.:funny:
Maybe start with them in a prologue, but they should have the later additions to the team as core characters in this.

I'd like to see a battle involving the Original 5 teenagers to open the film. Something awful happens (The Snap? Xavier's death?) and after the Marvel Studios logo we have a time jump and the now adult First Class are ready to lead the next generation of mutants.
 
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I would be against a time jump. It leads to a lot of the issues the Fox films had in the first place. I would rather we simply get some version of the original five and then, ya'know, actually get to know them and grow with them over the course of the following films. Then you get to develop Scott and Jean and Hank et al.

I don't wanna rush to the cast of thousands and multiple teams. All those characters won't get the proper development and most likely we end up with a widening cast where no one gets much development and we're just checking names off a list. Sound familiar?

Also... I keep thinking of who to have the team face off against as a first adversary and I just keep coming back to an MCU version of Magneto and the Brotherhood. That's something that I think DOES need to be repeated. It's hits to the core of the themes of the X-Men. It's more accessible to the wider audience too. And it doesn't require a lot of educating the viewer on. Thus you can spend more time on the students Xavier has collected, who they are and what motivates them outside of vagaries and maybe, I don't know, actually show Charles relationship with them and how his teachings informs who these characters are?

Plus a young First Class helps to explain where the team was for those that require an answer for such things. They weren't a factor in events because they were young at the time. Once 2024 or so rolls around they are old enough and sufficiently trained to go into the field. Xavier wasn't sending 11 year olds to fight the Chitauri in Manhattan.
 
I would be against a time jump. It leads to a lot of the issues the Fox films had in the first place. I would rather we simply get some version of the original five and then, ya'know, actually get to know them and grow with them over the course of the following films. Then you get to develop Scott and Jean and Hank et al.

I don't wanna rush to the cast of thousands and multiple teams. All those characters won't get the proper development and most likely we end up with a widening cast where no one gets much development and we're just checking names off a list. Sound familiar?

Also... I keep thinking of who to have the team face off against as a first adversary and I just keep coming back to an MCU version of Magneto and the Brotherhood. That's something that I think DOES need to be repeated. It's hits to the core of the themes of the X-Men. It's more accessible to the wider audience too. And it doesn't require a lot of educating the viewer on. Thus you can spend more time on the students Xavier has collected, who they are and what motivates them outside of vagaries and maybe, I don't know, actually show Charles relationship with them and how his teachings informs who these characters are?

Plus a young First Class helps to explain where the team was for those that require an answer for such things. They weren't a factor in events because they were young at the time. Once 2024 or so rolls around they are old enough and sufficiently trained to go into the field. Xavier wasn't sending 11 year olds to fight the Chitauri in Manhattan.

I HATE the time jumps in the FC series (and I am not too fond of the Endgame 5 year jump either), but I will allow for one in the MCU reboot to get the original team onscreen, if only for an opening sequence.

We get a classic battle between the high school aged X-Men vs Magneto and the Brotherhood. Then we reconnect with the original five, with Scott and Jean reopening a small school (no mansion yet) and recruiting a new class of superpowered youngins. The focus would be on the power couple and a half dozen kids (maybe a dozen kids in total?), with the other 3 original X-Men in supporting roles. I'm thinking Warren is funding this new venture.

My villain would be Emma and her Massachusetts Academy. And her Hellions, all funded by the Hellfire Club. Slobs vs snobs high school conflict with high octane superhero battles! Do we get a potential budding romance between rival students? Yes! A baseball game between schools? Yes again! Is Emma flirty with Scott? What do you think? Yes! Will we watch the young students grow up on screen ala Harry Potter? Yes indeedy!
 
Giving Wanda her magic powers and sticking with that.
MCU Wanda's powers are basically diet Jean Grey. If hers doesn't change, I could see Marvel changing the color of Jean's power effects to differentiate. From pink to blue like TAS
 
MCU Wanda's powers are basically diet Jean Grey. If hers doesn't change, I could see Marvel changing the color of Jean's power effects to differentiate. From pink to blue like TAS

I hope not. Keep it pink-ish/purple-ish.

Wanda = Red
Jean = Pink
Sue = Blue
Eric = Purple
Lorna = Green
 
I hope not. Keep it pink-ish/purple-ish.

Wanda = Red
Jean = Pink
Sue = Blue
Eric = Purple
Lorna = Green
Scratch what I said. I forgot about the color balance of the MU. Sue already has blue.

Maybe pink with purple-ish highlights could be a good way to do it. Think Fetch from Infamous

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