MCU: Your Thoughts About The Infinity Stones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[The_Manhunter]

So this is what we have so far:

Tesseract = Space Stone (Confirmed by Feige)
Aether = Power Stone?
Loki's Staff = Mind Stone?
Guardians Orb
Eye of Agometto
???

 

[metaphysician]

Until actual in-story evidence arises, the staff isn't the Mind Stone. There is no way Thanos would just give it away.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Until actual in-story evidence arises, the staff isn't the Mind Stone. There is no way Thanos would just give it away.

I admit that is one of the problems with my theory. But who knows, maybe Thanos's whole plan was to get the Tesseract positioned in the Asgard vault, so that when he has the other 5 Stones he can take the Tesseract and the Gauntlet in one stroke. As to how he will get out of the vault - he was waiting for Odin to become indisposed. I think Loki has provided Thanos with the chance he needed...

And I am sure the staff possibly being lost is nothing to Thanos - he is patient, he'd find it. As for who has it now, it really doesn't mean anything to him. He could wup HYDRA with both hands tied behind his back.

I do admit this is pretty much speculation though.

 

[CoherentChaos]

I suppose. He probably doesn't consider Earth to be a threat at ALL. When he's ready to make his move, it won't matter to him if every single stone wound up scattered across Earth. Better there than in Asgard.

So perhaps giving away the mind stone is an acceptable loss, given the apparent difficulty of receiving the others.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yo... I just figured out what the Reality Gem is!

I still think the Aether was the Reality Stone. It could alter it's shape and form, unlike any other Infinity Stone, and it had the power to rewrite the universe.

 

[DrCosmic]

Rewrite? I thought it just destroyed everything.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Malekith was using it to destroy the universe of light and recreate the darkness. Couldn't destroy everything because then the Dark Elves would have died too, lol.

 

[palewest]

Thanos wouldn't give away the Mind Stone (re: Loki's spear)

Maybe Thanos wasn't giving it away. He could have been letting Loki use it, fully expecting to get it back. Allocating a resource temporarily. Who knows, maybe he already has a few of the Infinity Stones. I suspect Thanos let Loki use the Spear because he expected to gain the Tesseract in the end, using Loki as a pawn.

1 - Tesseract (Captain America, Avengers)
2 - Aether (Thor 2)
3 - Spear (Avengers, Avengers 2)
4 - (Guardians?)
5 - Eye of Agometto (Thor 3? Doctor Strange?)
6 - (Avengers 3)

 

[ajpro]

Speaking of Aether and Scarlet Witch, some crazy speculation right below. Maybe not exactly belong to this thread but anyway.

During the final battle Malekith uses Aether as a weapon in a form of crystals. Later he was teleported (with aether in his body) and killed in Sva-whatever-heim. Asgardians took Aether and gave it to Collector.

But some Aether shards were left in Greenwich. SHEILD put heir hands on them among other stuff (somewhere there is an AoS reference). Now after the events of CA:TWS Hydra owns both the Staff and a few Aether samples.

Infinity stones have some kind of connection between themselves - Loki staff worked with Tesseract. Now Von Strucker used both Aether and Scepter on Wanda and thats how she got her power - red and realty warping just like the aether. It ties up almost perfectly.

 

[The_Manhunter]

I suppose. He probably doesn't consider Earth to be a threat at ALL. When he's ready to make his move, it won't matter to him if every single stone wound up scattered across Earth. Better there than in Asgard.

So perhaps giving away the mind stone is an acceptable loss, given the apparent difficulty of receiving the others.

Yep, those were my thoughts as well.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

It doesn't really sound like Thanos, though

 

[Nola.FX]

Just so everyone's prrrrrrrretty clear.
Baron Von Strucker is using the mind stone/gem in Loki's staff(which he most likely optained from SHIELDS weapons archives during Hydra's infiltration) to control the "twins"
Yes they've been doing all sorts of genetic experiments, but its pretty safe to say Hydra is using the staff to do their bidding, among anyone else they'd like as well.
Which is my guess a reason for 2 things which are set to occur.

#1: Hulk loosing control. With Hydra in control of the mind stone/gem they can control nearly anyone they'd like. They know that the most volatile member of the Avengers has a history of anger management issues, & is quite possibly the "strongest there is" so if they are able to control him, they could take out nearly the entire team.

#2: The creation of Ultron. After the events in The Avengers, along side the trust issues in Ironman 3. Tony sees how easily the human mind can be manipulated, so what better way to ensure (A) A "good guy", can't go rogue by mind control, & (B) They'll always have your back, because well they're practically "programmed" to do so.
Everyone knows how well A.I. stories go, & it's never to your advantage. So what happens when your creation that's suppose to protect humanity, truly "sees" both sides at war(Avengers vs Hydra)? It realizes there can be only one way to keep order, & that's absolute rule at the hands of Ultron, as it will see both sides are inherently "flawed".

 

[Shoppy]

So this is what we have so far:

Tesseract = Space Stone (Confirmed by Feige)
Aether = Power Stone?
Loki's Staff = Mind Stone?
Guardians Orb
Eye of Agometto
???

I've been thinking maybe....

1 - Tesseract (Captain America, Avengers) = Space
2 - Aether (Thor 2) = Power
3 - Loki's Sceptre (Avengers, Avengers 2) = Mind
4 - "The Orb" (Guardians Of The Galaxy) = Soul
5 - Scorpio Key (Agents Of SHIELD S2, Agent Carter) = Time
6 - Eye of Agamotto (Doctor Strange) = Reality
Infinity Gauntlet - (Thor 3)

???

 

[cherokeesam]

Two Stones have confirmed identities: Tesseract (Space, confirmed by Feige), and The Orb from GOTG (Power, directly identified by The Collector). The Aether's power is still pretty vague; there's been no confirmation that Loki's Spear contains the Mind Gem; and that leaves 2-3 still unaccounted for.

*Loki's Spear: yes, it's a popular theory that this is the Mind Gem. But a closer inspection reveals that this Spear isn't nearly as powerful as some people (including Von Strucker) think it is. As it stands right now, the Spear only seems to work if it touches a person's heart (strangely enough), and explains why Tony's artificial one was immune to the touch. At Stuttgart, the whole "kneel!" scene showed that no one there was under it (or Loki's spell), and merely knelt out of fear for their lives; even Cap and a Random Old Man didn't even go that far.

Otherwise, its only other displayed power was enraging people within its presence --- which was pretty much all Loki was aiming to do by causing Banner to Hulk out. It would also tend to explain what's going on in the CATWS post-credits --- Wanda & Pietro are spamming their powers because their rage is being controlled by The Spear. But even that issn't a particularly powerful "spell": most of The Avengers quickly figured out that the Spear was causing their petty infighting, and calmed down (except Bruce, of course).

So, if The Spear houses an Infinity Stone, it's a piss-poor cosmic artifact that doesn't have much power or range. I'd hope the Mind Stone is shown to be a *lot* more powerful than that.

*Aether: the only thing we know about it is that it controlled Jane Foster's soul, and drained and nearly killed her; and seemed to control Malekith's soul, and made him uber for a brief time. So maybe it's the Soul Gem?

If so, that leaves Mind, Time, and Reality.
My spec, on two of them:

*Reality: what better place to introduce this one than the Dr. Strange movie? Because what is magic, if not altering reality?

*Mind: Ultron, believe it or not. Dunno how the Stone would wind up in a killer robot on Earth, but it *would* be a great excuse to explain how a robot that's apparently made by human hands would suddenly develop supaa-genius intelligence and start hyper-upgrading. Hell, even HAL 9000 was ultimately shown to have been guided by cosmic forces. Plus, rumors have just in the past 24 hours surfaced that Josh Brolin as Thanos will have a bigger part in AOU than he does in GOTG. Chasing down an Infinity Stone --- or inserting one into the equation against Earth's Mightiest Heroes --- would give Big Daddy Titan a reason to be here. Plus: Kirby crackle. I'm just sayin'.

*Which leaves Time, for which I don't have a clue. My best guess for that would involve time travel, of course, which instantly brings Kang to mind; but I have no idea when and where we'll first see Kang in the MCU, if ever.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Nicely done Same. I like it.

So we know the Tesseract is the Space Gem and the Power Gem is represented by the unnamed Orb in GOTG.

I like your theory that the Aether is the Soul Gem. It is 100% either that or the Reality Gem. That being said, I think the Doctor Strange movie would be a great opportunity to introduce either the Reality Gem or the Soul Gem, really. So to think differently...

Two objects to house these powers: The Eye of Agamotto and The Orb of Agamotto

The eye is the window to the soul... Eye of Agamotto as the Soul Gem in Doctor Strange or Thor 3 maybe?

So we could be looking at:
Space Gem - Tesseract (CATFA/Avengers)
Reality Gem - Aether (TTDW)
Power Gem - unnamed Orb (GOTG)
Soul Gem - Eye of Agamotto (Doctor Strange)
Mind Gem - whatever is powering Ultron (AAOU)
Time Gem - Orb of Agamotto (CA3, he is the man out of time)


I'm just typing, trying to piece anything together and make sense of ANY of this. By all means, Sam, help me out here!

 

[cherokeesam]

Nicely done Same. I like it.

So we know the Tesseract is the Space Gem and the Power Gem is represented by the unnamed Orb in GOTG.

I like your theory that the Aether is the Soul Gem. It is 100% either that or the Reality Gem. That being said, I think the Doctor Strange movie would be a great opportunity to introduce either the Reality Gem or the Soul Gem, really. So to think differently...

Two objects to house these powers: The Eye of Agamotto and The Orb of Agamotto

The eye is the window to the soul... Eye of Agamotto as the Soul Gem in Doctor Strange or Thor 3 maybe?

So we could be looking at:
Space Gem - Tesseract (CATFA/Avengers)
Reality Gem - Aether (TTDW)
Power Gem - unnamed Orb (GOTG)
Soul Gem - Eye of Agamotto (Doctor Strange)
Mind Gem - whatever is powering Ultron (AAOU)
Time Gem - Orb of Agamotto (CA3, he is the man out of time)


I'm just typing, trying to piece anything together and make sense of ANY of this. By all means, Sam, help me out here!

I like it.
As I said above, I'd personally transpose Reality and Soul to Eye of Agamotto and Aether respectively; another reason I'm keen on the theory that the Aether is the Soul Gem is that TDW showed that it's now housed in The Collector's museum --- right next a certain easter egg that points directly to the existence of Adam Warlock in the GOTG Universe. (For the record, comic-book canon has always intimately associated the Soul Gem with Adam Warlock: it was implanted directly into his forehead. And Adam Warlock goes on to become a primary member of the GOTG in the comics. So there's a lot of comic-book mining they can do with that angle for GOTG2, if they so choose.)

 

[Victarion]

How do these stones work once they're all assembled? I mean, do they just hurl them at Thanos or is there something more?

 

[Endeavor]

Thanos is the one who'll be using them, to become god-like.

 

[Victarion]

Thanos is the one who'll be using them, to become god-like.

Neat. How many does Thanos possess thus far, and could you see a future heist-type plot where Thanos's lackeys procure the rest of the stones?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Tesseract (blue) Space sure... but

Aether (red) Reality more likely and

'GotG orb' (purple) Power maybe. Leaving:

Time
Soul
Mind

and

Yellow
Green
Orange

I'm highly doubtful these days that Loki's spear is the mind stone.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

How do these stones work once they're all assembled? I mean, do they just hurl them at Thanos or is there something more?

Thanos is the one who'll be using them, to become god-like.

Yeah, Thanos will definitely get a chance to use them after he's gathered them. Marvel/Disney can't possibly pass up an opportunity for that degree of spectacle.

In the comics it's a gauntlet:

But I'm not so sure this will be the case in these films.

I'd be willing to bet once the stones are gathered they become something else, perhaps even changing the wielder's appearance. Basically just supercharging Thanos.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

I like it.
As I said above, I'd personally transpose Reality and Soul to Eye of Agamotto and Aether respectively; another reason I'm keen on the theory that the Aether is the Soul Gem is that TDW showed that it's now housed in The Collector's museum --- right next a certain easter egg that points directly to the existence of Adam Warlock in the GOTG Universe. (For the record, comic-book canon has always intimately associated the Soul Gem with Adam Warlock: it was implanted directly into his forehead. And Adam Warlock goes on to become a primary member of the GOTG in the comics. So there's a lot of comic-book mining they can do with that angle for GOTG2, if they so choose.)

Good thinking. If they stick close to comic canon, that would definitely work out well. Well done sir.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I've been saying since Thor: The Dark World that the Aether is the Reality Stone, and it looks like I was right Given the Orb appears to be the Power Stone.

 

[cherokeesam]

I've been saying since Thor: The Dark World that the Aether is the Reality Stone, and it looks like I was right Given the Orb appears to be the Power Stone.

Eh, I still dunno about Aether. The Space Gem is purple in the comics, but blue in the MCU (Tesseract), while the Power Gem is red in the comics (that's why everyone incorrectly assumed the Aether was the Power Gem), but is shown purple in GOTG. Since they're obviously changing up the color scheme from the comics, the Reality Gem (yellow, in canon) could well be red in the movies. But I still like my argument, just for the sake of Adam Warlock. Dunno if Marvel ever plans to actually use Adam Warlock at all, but either accidentally or on purpose, they've planted a ****load of seeds (literally) pointing towards his eventual arrival.

 

[fixxxer]

Reality Stone - Aether: I don't think the Soul Stone fits here. None of the Aether's power were even close to anything related to the soul. Reality-altering, though, kind of fits the Aether's workings.

Space Stone - Tesseract: I think this is our one clear cut confirmation as of now.

Power Stone - Orb: The Vulture piece seemed pretty legit, and they indicated that the Orb would be the Power Stone. No reason to doubt them. This also seems to have been confirmed by the anonymous early review that Latino Review ran.

Mind Stone - Staff: Though I'm only about 50-50 about this one. The rationale against it being the Mind Stone are twofold. (a) It simply doesn't seem powerful enough to be an Infinity Stone and (b) Thanos wouldn't give away an Infinity Stone to Loki, who might choose to keep it for himself or stupidly lose the damn thing, which as it turns out, he did.

However, maybe the Infinity Stones are only as powerful as the wielder, and his/her intimate knowledge of its functions. So, this would explain why Malaketh was able to unleash the full power of the Aether, but SHIELD was still struggling with how the Tesseract worked for decades.

Thanos might have (correctly) speculated that Loki might think of the Mind Stone/Staff as merely a reasonably powerful weapon, that he could use in his scheme to conquer Earth, but not guess at its true nature. When all the rubble settled, Thanos would swoop in and collect it quite easily.

Soul Stone - ???: I'm thinking this will involve Adam Warlock and GOTG2. We heard some time back that GOTG2 was being prepped as one of Phase 3 movies (2017 would make the most sense, leading into Avengers 3), and this line of thought could lend some credence to that rumor.

Parts of the Infinity Gauntlet comic itself could serve as inspiration for GOTG2. Maybe Adam Warlock is in the cocoon we saw in Collectors's museum "physically" and has the Soul Stone embedded on his forehead, but "mentally" he's living peacefully inside the Soul Stone. At this point, he has severed ties to the outside world, (or more accurately, universe) has no allegiance to the concept of "good" or "evil" and simply wants to be left alone. Of course, after Thanos takes the Soul Gem in GOTG2, he could align himself with the GOTG and Avengers as they go against Thanos and his insane machinations.

Again, mining the comic, this would make Warlock a major player in A3 since his time inside the Soul Stone puts him outside of Thanos' (almost) omniscience.

Time Stone - ???: This one, I'm a little stumped about. I'm not expecting Kang to show up in one of these upcoming movies... I'll put this one under the "let's wait and see" category.