Metroid: Other M

[Timstuff]

Other M is the second lowest rated game in the Metroid series. The only game with a lower rating is Metroid II, and that is largely because there are only 9 reviews of Metroid 2 being counted as opposed to the 40 for Other M, and most of the reviews for Metroid II were not written until many years after its original release. All things considered Other M is the worst reviewed game in the series, and so far the global weekly sales have been lower than any other console-based Metroid game except Metroid Prime 2. It's worse, when you consider that the week-by-week dropoff for other M is proportionally much bigger than MP2's, and on a console with a bewilderingly larger userbase.

Metascore ranking of all Metroid games:

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?search=metroid&numrev=3&site=

Sales rankings of the Metroid series (keep in mind though Other M has only been here 2 weeks, and will inevitably rise up a few notches in the months to come):

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=metroid

Other M weekly sales (global):

http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=35086

Prime 2 weekly sales (US only)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=1340

As I stated above, Other M is doing only slightly better than Prime 2, and the weekly dropoff has been noticeably steeper. If the trend continues, it will sell less than Prime 2, which until now was the least successful Metroid game released on a console. Not only is Other M the lowest rated game in the series, but it is also shaping up to be the lowest selling console iteration of it. These are not trollish ramblings, this is data. You can interpret it any way you want, but the most logical conclusion that one can come to is that Nintendo is probably not pleased about it. The game is underperforming and it is not being reviewed nearly as well as previous entries in the series-- and the fanbase is not being remotely as receptive to it as they were to Metroid Prime, despite Prime making the once controversial change of being played in first person. Prime was the most popular game in the series despite being released on Nintendo's most popular console, while Other M is the second least popular despite being released on Nintendo's second most popular console.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Other M is the second lowest rated game in the Metroid series. The only game with a lower rating is Metroid II, and that is largely because there are only 9 reviews of Metroid 2 being counted as opposed to the 40 for Other M, and most of the reviews for Metroid II were not written until many years after its original release. All things considered Other M is the worst reviewed game in the series, and so far the global weekly sales have been lower than any other console-based Metroid game except Metroid Prime 2. It's worse, when you consider that the week-by-week dropoff for other M is proportionally much bigger than MP2's, and on a console with a bewilderingly larger userbase.

Metascore ranking of all Metroid games:

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?search=metroid&numrev=3&site=

First, that's GameRankings. Second, it has an 80% rating. Yeah, that's the second worst of Metroid games but it's not a universally panned game that is going to bomb. Seriously, quit making Other M out to be Iron Man 2.

Sales rankings of the Metroid series (keep in mind though Other M has only been here 2 weeks, and will inevitably rise up a few notches in the months to come):

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=metroid

Other M weekly sales (global):

http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=35086

Prime 2 weekly sales (US only)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=1340

As I stated above, Other M is doing only slightly better than Prime 2, and the weekly dropoff has been noticeably steeper. If the trend continues, it will sell less than Prime 2, which until now was the least successful Metroid game released on a console. Not only is Other M the lowest rated game in the series, but it is also shaping up to be the lowest selling console iteration of it. These are not trollish ramblings, this is data.

No, this is the definition of trolling. Yeah, it's data but it's premature to call Other M a financial failure 2 weeks in. If it's still poor after the holidays, then you might have a case. Prime 2 had an increase in sales before the holidays and I expect that to be the case with Other M as they come closer. But until then, you're going to have to wait.

You can interpret it any way you want, but the most logical conclusion that one can come to is that Nintendo is probably not pleased about it. The game is underperforming

I'll wait until I read an article on Nintendo's reactions to it's sales. You hate the game and you want it to fail.

and it is not being reviewed nearly as well as previous entries in the and the fanbase is not being remotely as receptive to it as they were to Metroid Prime

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And you keep ignoring that it's still being received positively.

despite Prime making the once controversial change of being played in first person. Prime was the most popular game in the series despite being released on Nintendo's most popular console, while Other M is the second least popular despite being released on Nintendo's second most popular console.

We get it already. You hate the game [despite never playing it]. Go spend your time on something you enjoy.

 

[Timstuff]

First, that's GameRankings. Second, it has an 80% rating. Yeah, that's the second worst of Metroid games but it's not a universally panned game that is going to bomb. Seriously, quit making Other M out to be Iron Man 2.

I don't have to make it out to be Iron Man 2. Iron Man 2 got decent reviews, but the fans were largely disappointed, and while it did not make as much money as expected it still had a big profit. We don't know if Other M is a financial success or not, because we don't know how much Nintendo spent on it in comparison to the rate it's selling at.

No, this is the definition of trolling. Yeah, it's data but it's premature to call Other M a financial failure 2 weeks in. If it's still poor after the holidays, then you might have a case. Prime 2 had an increase in sales before the holidays and I expect that to be the case with Other M as they come closer. But until then, you're going to have to wait.

I am merely reporting the data. You may not like that my opinion is negative, but that is NOT trolling. Tell me, if having a neative opinion about this game in its own thread is not allowed, then where am I allowed to have a negative opinion about it? I'm just reporting what is going on and how I personally feel it relates to my own opinion.

I'll wait until I read an article on Nintendo's reactions to it's sales. You hate the game and you want it to fail.

Never believe anything that execs say about a product's sales a month after it comes out. They are always going to put a silver lining on it and say how proud they are of their product, because they want people to feel optimistic about it so they'll buy it. Nintendo still has the Christmas sales rush to think about, so even if Other M ends up unequivocally proven the black sheep of the Metroid series, it will be a long time before you hear Nintendo admit to it being a disappointment.

And you keep ignoring that it's still being received positively.

Being recieved positively by some people. From a gameplay POV it's a decent title in its own right, however it is not up to the high standards of the series, and it diverges far too much from the core Metroid theses for many fans. The cumulative score is still lower than any other entry in the series, and it is without a doubt the most controversial game ever to carry the Metroid name. This is not like Metroid Prime where only a handful of fans were disgruntled about the game being in first person. Half the fanbase is up in arms about what this game has done to the Metroid brand.

We get it already. You hate the game [despite never playing it]. Go spend your time on something you enjoy.

Actually, I have been playing the game lately, and I think I will go and play it some more right now. I'll be posting my thoughts on the gameplay later, unless you really can't handle the "negativity."

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I don't have to make it out to be Iron Man 2. Iron Man 2 got decent reviews, but the fans were largely disappointed, and while it did not make as much money as expected it still had a big profit. We don't know if Other M is a financial success or not, because we don't know how much Nintendo spent on it in comparison to the rate it's selling at.

I should have specified, I meant the game Iron Man 2, not the movie.

I am merely reporting the data. You may not like that my opinion is negative, but that is NOT trolling. Tell me, if having a neative opinion about this game in its own thread is not allowed, then where am I allowed to have a negative opinion about it? I'm just reporting what is going on and how I personally feel it relates to my own opinion.

You were trolling when you were ranting about the game despite having only read negative reviews and making inaccurate assumptions.

Never believe anything that execs say about a product's sales a month after it comes out. They are always going to put a silver lining on it and say how proud they are of their product, because they want people to feel optimistic about it so they'll buy it.

But I should believe a rabid fanboy who hates the game and wants it to fail

Being recieved positively by some people.

It's been well received by MANY legitimate gaming outlets. VERY few have panned it. In fact, the G4 and GameInformer are the only notable outlets that has give it less than a 7. But somehow they mean more than the positive reviews. Metacritic somehow lists 1UP's review as a 67/100 when it's actually a B-.

The cumulative score is still lower than any other entry in the series.

Why does this matter? It's cumulative score is 8/10. That is still a very good score for a game. It's not even 7.5/10 or 7/10. It tells more about how good the Metroid franchise has been than how bad Other M is. But by all means, continue to make it out to be one of the worst games ever created.

This is not like Metroid Prime where only a handful of fans were disgruntled about the game being in first person. Half the fanbase is up in arms about what this game has done to the Metroid brand.

Give me a friggin break! Where is half of the fanbase being up in arms about this? I'm sure there are people who have said "Yeah, I like it but I still prefer Prime." That doesn't mean they are up in arms over this and want it wiped from existence. The only place I have seen a lot of people ranting about it is GameFAQs which is hardly credible proof.

Actually, I have been playing the game lately, and I think I will go and play it some more right now. I'll be posting my thoughts on the gameplay later, unless you really can't handle the "negativity."

You should have played the game BEFORE you said anything about it.

 

[Timstuff]

Playing it has only confirmed what I have already suspected about it, though, and showed me some problems that I hadn't even heard of. It's a very glossy shiny game but it ultimately lacks the soul that the other Metroid games have had. My full review (be warned, if yo like the game this may tick you off a lot):

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• Control: Controlling this game is, in a word, awkward. The D-pad only setup is not actually a throwback to the NES and SNES, but rather the dark age of Playstation 1 games. It reminds me of when a lot of developers were trying to bring their old franchises into 3D using just the standard D-pad on the PS1, and in practice this is not very fun to play with. It's like Sakamoto has forgotten why Nintendo gave the N64 an analog joystick in the first place. Aside from the clunkiness of the digital controls, I feel like the way Samus moves is rather schizophrenic. She runs at dizzying speeds, and yet if you begin firing without moving, Samus gets planted to the ground which makes the game's frantic run-and-gun button mashing feel inconsistent. And speaking of inconsistency, I REALLY dislike having to change cameras to use missiles. Overall the first person mode feels very tacked on and out of place. Every time you use it it causes a delay that makes you take more damage, and on top of that the transition is just plain disorienting. The third person "exploration" moments felt the most clunky of all, though.
  
• Gameplay: This does NOT play like Super Metroid in 3D, no matter what anyone says. Super Metroid was first and foremost an adventure game. Other M is unapologetically an action game, and not even the combat feels reminiscent of past Metroid games. For the most part it's like Devil May Cry without the swordplay, and overall I always get the feeling that the game is holding my hand. It tells me exactly way to go at all times, and if I want to do something else then it's SOL. Like I said, the controls feel clunky and uneven, and the gameplay feels more like I'm controlling Dante than Samus. I can't help but wonder if the point of this game was trying to make Samus feel more like she does in the Smash Bros. series, because that's the closest thing I can compare it to. The bosses are cool, but again, my mileage varies with them because of the controls. Once I got past those issues the combat did become a lot more fun. However, at the end of the day the game is much more mash happy than any other Metroid game before it. Other than the first person mode most enemies are defeated just by mashing on the fire button and letting the auto aim do the work while scores of enemies drop dead without so much as a second thought, which to me feels decidedly un-Metroid like. Even something as simple as the wall jump has been reduced to mashing on the jump button because apparently in Super Metroid it was too hard. And don't get me started on the "focus sytem" or weapons authorization...
• Graphics: These are definitely top-notch for a Wii game, and it's disappointing that there aren't more Wii games that look this good. The art direction is not as good as Retro Studio's, but they are certainly pretty and better than 95% of the Wii games I've seen.
• Audio: The music is minimalist, but does a good job of conveying ambience. This is not a soundtrack I'd put on my iPod, but it does its job and does it well. The sound effects are overall pretty good, if a bit familiar to series vets. The voice acting however IS FREAKING AWFUL! The actress playing Samus sounds like a bored teenager reading a Twilight fanfiction. Yes, it is THAT BAD. Every line of dialogue she reads is downright overwrought, and she reads it all without a shred of emotion. It's like they're trying to overcompensate for how overdone the descriptions of her emotions are by making her sound flat and bored, or maybe it's the other way around. At any rate, it made me want to remove my headphones at several moments simply because the words coming out of her mouth sounded so stupid that I could scarcely stand the thought that Samus was saying all of this.
• Story: What else needs to be said? It's not quite as intrusive onto the gameplay as I thought it would be, but it's still pretty bad. It's chock full of lame anime and sci-fi cliches and is trying way too hard to be Metal Gear Solid at the expense of trying desperately to destroy all respect I have for Samus's character. No matter how beautifully animated all of these cutscenes are (and beautifully animated they most certainly are), the narration and stupid story / dialogue destroys them. It's a big enough sin of story telling to tell rather than show, but to recite a 10 page essay about one's inner thoughts while juxtaposed to the on screen action ears you a one-way ticket to at least the third circle of writer hell.

Overall, the game is OK as an action game, but as a fan of the series I do feel offended by it. As an action game it's decent despite controlling like an old PS1 game, however it does not feel like a real Metroid game to me. The feeling of isolation and discovery just isn't there, and it's been replaced with lots of action and linear tunnels. If this were a new franchise that had some enjoyable gameplay elements, razor sharp graphics and a stupid story, I'd be more forgiving, but the fact that this is METROID, I expect a lot better, and I expect something that much better resembles the series in terms of gameplay. This at best is a very dumbed down version of Metroid Fusion, but it is certainly not a spiritual extension of Super Metroid (for that, see Metroid Prime). This is an action game featuring Samus's character model. It looks a bit like Metroid, and it says Metroid on the box, but I'll be darned if I were to say that this is a true Metroid game.

And before anyone jumps in and says I'm just being a hater and I want to hate on this game, for the record I started this thread because I was genuinely excited about this game. I actually went so far as to say it could be the game that makes me buy a Wii, and I didn't even say that about Metroid Prime 3. I was mega pumped about a fresh new take on the Metroid franchise that had high production values, but I am disappointed with the end product. The reason why I got worked up about the negative reviews and comments is because they were describing a game was making me angry, and at the end of the day it turns out that that's what Other M is. I was not brainwashed by negativity, I was merely given a heads up that this was not the game that I wanted it to be.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

And before anyone jumps in and says I'm just being a hater and I want to hate on this game.

That's a load. You read 2 bad reviews (from lousy sites), made inaccurate assumptions, and just started bringing up it's sales and how, despite a very good cumulative score of 8/10, it's the worst Metroid game ever.

I was not brainwashed by negativity, I was merely given a heads up that this was not the game that I wanted it to be.

 

[Timstuff]

The roll eyes smiley would be appropriate if the criticisms of the game had no bearing on me. Unfortunately, this game is full of the exact crap that I never would have wanted to see in a Metroid game-- namely, linearity and Samus being ransacked by poor characterization.

This video perfectly demonstrates what is wrong with Other M as a Metroid game:



And stop using G4 and Gameinformer as your strawman competition. They are hardly the only people who have complained about this game's problems, but you seem to be suggesting that they are. Destin and Craig at screw attack tore this game apart, and even a lot of the overall positive reviews did say that the clunky controls, locking doors and bad story component were the game's drawbacks.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Other than those 2 review outlets, I've seen nothing except from whining fanboys on GameFAQs. Now you post a stupid YouTube video from some random user. Oh wow, you can't get the missile that way because of an invisible wall. What's the point? Zero Mission had plenty of upgrades I had no clue how to get. Other games have invisible walls. It's fanboy nitpicking.

I don't know how you can deny being a hater when you're going to such great lengths to bash it.

And if you want to get that upgrade, go in the previous room and speed boost along the track on the left.

 

[Timstuff]

If I were a hater, then why was I excited about this game when I made this thread? Did I have any reason to be angry that a AAA developer was going to be doing a new spin on one of my favorite franchises? What do I have to gain from "hating" on Other M? If I could simply willing to plug my nose and attempt to ignore everything that's wrong with it for the sake of having fun I would, but there comes a point where I just plain can't do that anymore and I have to acknowledge what I see as fundamental flaws. This is, without a doubt, the Final Fantasy XIII of the series. It has many staunch defenders, but the fact is that many people feel that it is a misstep and does not do justice to the original series' thesis, or even represent it.

 

[Tron Bonne]

If I were a hater, then why was I excited about this game when I made this thread? Did I have any reason to be angry that a AAA developer was going to be doing a new spin on one of my favorite franchises? What do I have to gain from "hating" on Other M? If I could simply willing to plug my nose and attempt to ignore everything that's wrong with it for the sake of having fun I would, but there comes a point where I just plain can't do that anymore and I have to acknowledge what I see as fundamental flaws. This is, without a doubt, the Final Fantasy XIII of the series. It has many staunch defenders, but the fact is that many people feel that it is a misstep and does not do justice to the original series' thesis, or even represent it.

The irony is killing me...

I mean, really, why are you still posting here? If your hate for this game just on second hand information alone is so bad, would it not just be better to leave it alone all together? You've said your peace and then some repeatedly, and you're just preaching to yourself at this point. You hate this game because you don't like the characterization they gave to Samus (even though half of what you say about it isn't right and there's nothing to really judge it by, but ok), you hate how linear it is (even though it has some exploration in its own right, though maybe not as much as some of the older series), and you hate that it wasn't made by Retro (which, okay, sure). Okay, man, I think we get it. Until you have more to say, would it not be best to simply hang this up until you at least have more ammo to criticize the game further or just letting it go since you should never play it? Surely, it must.

 

[Electro UK]

1. Calm down! It's a very different Metroid from the others, Timstuff is allowed to be dissapointed at his claims.

2. I agree it's stupid the game tells you where to go all the time and it's too short.

3. Other than that, this game rules.

 

[Timstuff]

Apparently people keep missing the part where I said I have played the game extensively now and my opinions about it are no-longer "second hand." Am I required to change my opinion just because I've played the game? Do people really think it's impossible that I could dislike this game after having actually played it?

 

[Spidey-Bat]

If I were a hater, then why was I excited about this game when I made this thread?

Those aren't mutually exclusive.

If I could simply willing to plug my nose and attempt to ignore everything that's wrong with it for the sake of having fun I would, but there comes a point where I just plain can't do that anymore and I have to acknowledge what I see as fundamental flaws. This is, without a doubt, the Final Fantasy XIII of the series.

I've never played FF so the comparison is lost. I think it's like the Mario Sunshine of the series. A very good game that the fanboys whine about because it's not Super Mario 64.

It has many staunch defenders, but the fact is that many people feel that it is a misstep and does not do justice to the original series' thesis, or even represent it.

It has staunch defenders because those who dislike it are being loud and obnoxious about it. Nearly every page of Game FAQs' board has a topic whining about the game.

Apparently people keep missing the part where I said I have played the game extensively now and my opinions about it are no-longer "second hand." Am I required to change my opinion just because I've played the game? Do people really think it's impossible that I could dislike this game after having actually played it?

And you keep missing the point that Other M has been received postiviely. All you're doing is regurgitating 2 reviews and this phantom majority (which isn't the majority and just whining fanboys on sites like GameFAQs).

Tron Bonne's point is spot on. We get that you hate the game. Unfortunately, you decided that long before you played it. It's clear you want to drag it through the mud since you're bringing up how it's done against other Metroid games (ignoring that it still has a strong cumulative score of 8/10) and 2 weeks worth of sales records. You've made your point. Go spend your time doing something else.

 

[Tron Bonne]

1. Calm down! It's a very different Metroid from the others, Timstuff is allowed to be dissapointed at his claims.

Man, have you been following this thread at all? It's been nothing but a constant *****fest with this guy for like 4-5 pages. I think what I said was more than warranted

Apparently people keep missing the part where I said I have played the game extensively now and my opinions about it are no-longer "second hand." Am I required to change my opinion just because I've played the game? Do people really think it's impossible that I could dislike this game after having actually played it?

You're right, I did miss that in all that's been posted, and I'll apologize for the second hand comment, but I still stand by what I said more or less. As I said before, we all knew you weren't going to like this game, you went into to find something looking for that negativity and, lo and behold, you found it and, of course, then some on top of that. You're still fairly off about the story from your assessment but we all know you won't change your mind because you made it up well before you sat down and played anything. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but I think we've gotten it will enough; this game apparently rapes Metroid for you and this legion of fans you call upon. Okay, man, just okay; I don't understand why we have to continue getting bombarded by it.

 

[Timstuff]

And you keep missing the point that Other M has been received postiviely. All you're doing is regurgitating 2 reviews and this phantom majority (which isn't the majority and just whining fanboys on sites like GameFAQs).

No, that would be YOU. YOU are the one who keeps bringing up the X-Play and Gameinformer reviews. When was the last time you saw me use either or those to back up my opinion? YOU are the one who keeps bringing them up, because they represent your own straw man version of this game's detractors. There are plenty of other articles and videos out there, but you continue to insist that it is only these two articles in particular that are causing the controversy and not the game itself. At this point, the X-Play and Game Informer reviews are no longer relevant to the argument, because there are plenty of other people who have given much more in-depth analysis of what is wrong with the game than just those two articles. You can't pidgeonhole the dissatisfaction with this game into just being just 2 inaccurate reviews and one message board being overtaken by trolls, because it's a whole lot bigger than that.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Apparently people keep missing the part where I said I have played the game extensively now and my opinions about it are no-longer "second hand." Am I required to change my opinion just because I've played the game? Do people really think it's impossible that I could dislike this game after having actually played it?

Nope, you played it and still hate it, there's nothing wrong with that. It's all opinions anyway, and it's not our place to tell each other that their opinions are 'wrong.'

I love the game, as well as the story, doesn't mean you have to.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

No, that would be YOU. YOU are the one who keeps bringing up the X-Play and Gameinformer reviews. When was the last time you saw me use either or those to back up my opinion? YOU are the one who keeps bringing them up, because they represent your own straw man version of this game's detractors.

Your original rant was entirely based on those two reviews. It's all you've had this time to support your ramblings outside of fanboy bickering.

There are plenty of other articles and videos out there, but you continue to insist that it is only these two articles in particular that are causing the controversy and not the game itself.

I only care about legitimate game news outlets. Places that pay their contributors for professional reviews. Not blogs, forums posts, etc. I don't need to get into how biased fans can be.

At this point, the X-Play and Game Informer reviews are no longer relevant to the argument, because there are plenty of other people who have given much more in-depth analysis of what is wrong with the game than just those two articles. You can't pidgeonhole the dissatisfaction with this game into just being just 2 inaccurate reviews and one message board being overtaken by trolls, because it's a whole lot bigger than that.

Where are these people? You keep bringing up this majority who hates the game yet I haven't seen it. I go to CheapAssGamer which mostly has Wii haters and no one has approached anywhere near the hatred you have for this game.

Look, we get it. You don't like the game. You're obviously not going to change your mind on the issue and everyone else who has posted in this thread has enjoyed it. We don't need to spend another 4 pages of back-and-forth arguing. Let's all just move on.

 

[Doomed_hero]

I beat the game the other night and really enjoyed it alot. I want to state that I have not really enjoyed a Metriod game since Super Metriod. The Prime series was fun, but I had a hard time getting into it because I don't really like first person shooters and I never played the fusion series.

The game play I really enjoyed and my only real problem was the lst person controls which I felt could have been better. Also the stopping to explore kinda takes away from the flow of the game.

As for the story I thought it was a good main story of what was happening on the station. As for the backround stuff I though there should have been more to add to the relationship with Adam and Samus and more about Samus youth. However I did feel the relationship worked and my only real problem is Samus gets a bit wordy.

However I really enjoyed it and I belive they left it open for a direct sequel as well.

 

[Timstuff]

Your original rant was entirely based on those two reviews. It's all you've had this time to support your ramblings outside of fanboy bickering.

You are always going to try and tie it back to the X-Play and Game Informer reviews (the latter of which I have not even read). You want more?

http://wii.ign.com/articles/112/1122068p1.html

http://www.destructoid.com/metroid-other-m-s-story-fails-on-so-many-levels-183310.phtml

http://screwattack.com/blogs/SideScrollers/SideScrollers-090810

http://blip.tv/file/4104135

The fact of the matter is that these are only TWO negative opinions about the game. The first review that got me concerned was one I watched at That Guy With The Glasses that stated that the game made Samus out to be much weaker than what most fans will probably want to see, and mentioned her panic attack when Ridley shows up. It was not X-play's review, and it DEFINITELY was not Game Informer's. Again, my opinions about the game were largely based on youtube videos of the cutscenes and various critiques of the game around the web, and yet you keep going back to X-play and Game Informer.

If you're going to try and turn this into a citation war, then obviously my opinion is not good enough for you. It's always going to be "all the critics who agree with you suck, so that means your opinion sucks too." That's not going to win over any hearts and minds. I suggest you just stop this already and accept that I and many other people do not like the game as much as you.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Again, my opinions about the game were largely based on youtube videos of the cutscenes and various critiques of the game around the web, and yet you keep going back to X-play and Game Informer.

Your opinions on the game should have been based on your experience of the game.

If you're going to try and turn this into a citation war, then obviously my opinion is not good enough for you. It's always going to be "all the critics who agree with you suck, so that means your opinion sucks too." That's not going to win over any hearts and minds.

You're doing the same with the positive reviews.

I suggest you just stop this already and accept that I and many other people do not like the game as much as you.

If it will end your tantrum, sure. Happy now?

 

[Timstuff]

Your opinions on the game should have been based on your experience of the game.

Now that I have played the game do my opinions count for anything, or am I too tainted by the negativity ray to be taken seriously?

You're doing the same with the positive reviews.

I do not call into question the credibility of the people who are giving the game good reviews. I simply think that they are looking for something out of the game that I am not, or vise-a-verse. That is obviously a potentially very contentious issue, but I am not going to discredit the many positive reviews that this game has gotten just because I don't like the game. I simply find that the game's flaws make it too difficult for me to enjoy it like I do the other Metroid games, and I find fault with Sakamoto's heavy handed storytelling preferences and his depiction of Samus Aran. That does not mean that the game itself is total garbage or that people who enjoy playing it have no credibility. The game did not meet my expectations, and since I am a big fan of the series it is hard not to get worked up about it, and it's the same story for the rest of the people who are complaining about it.

 

[StrainedEyes]

The scene of her meeting Ridley again is terrible. She literally turns into a scared child and then has to be saved by a man. Samus is not a damsel in distress, and I agree that Other M (wrongly) turned her into one.

Japan is certainly known for their portrayals of strong, non-stereotyped female characters.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I've played the game to the

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Metroid Queen

and while Samus isn't quite what I'd imagined in terms of personality, I'm still enjoying the game. It's definitely not the best Metroid game, I'd put it alongside Metroid 2 and Fusion, it's still pretty good. I think the big problem with the story is where it is in the continuity of the franchise, I think the characterzation would work much better if it was set earlier in Samus' bounty hunter career or if it was the mission that made Samus a bounty hunter. It's showing origin stuff, but that origin stuff doesn't mesh well with where Samus is now in her life.

In terms of control, it take getting used to, but it works, still would rather have the ability to move while in first person mode. Did the creators of the game think everyone lost their nunchuk or something? The sound is great, plenty of cues to the older games. I didn't mind the hand holding, that's been part of the game since Prime. My biggest issue is the missle and health reloading, that was a big failure.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I've played the game to the

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Metroid Queen

and while Samus isn't quite what I'd imagined in terms of personality, I'm still enjoying the game. It's definitely not the best Metroid game, I'd put it alongside Metroid 2 and Fusion, it's still pretty good. I think the big problem with the story is where it is in the continuity of the franchise, I think the characterzation would work much better if it was set earlier in Samus' bounty hunter career or if it was the mission that made Samus a bounty hunter. It's showing origin stuff, but that origin stuff doesn't mesh well with where Samus is now in her life.

Haven't played as far as you, but I can agree with that more or less. There's not really much of a story in the present, and the way it's told through total and constant flashback never gels well. It would have worked better as a flat out origin tale.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Yeah, it would have been better if it were between Zero Mission and Prime.

It's kind of funny, but this is the type of game Zelda fans have wanted; greater emphasis on story, cutscenes, and voice actors. While Metroid fans just want the same thing every game.