Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - Part 1

[Hunter Rider]

Oh yeah dont get me wrong, the set-pieces were fantastic, dont remember not enjoying one of them, but there was hardly anything new in the movie with the action sequences, just some improvisation, car chase, but in a sandstorm for example. They were all done extremely well, bar one or two bits of average CG, but again, nothing pushed the genre beyond its norms for me.

We are at a point where there are so many action movies it is hard to be completely new, but I felt Ghost Protocol's big set piece's felt like really fresh and innovative takes on old ideas.

Both got good reviews but hardly universal praise like M:I4 is getting, while I loved it I dont think it will have a lasting impact like Predator or especially Die Hard ended up having. Its the best M:I movie thats for sure, I always found the series of movies in general very 'meh' before Ghost Protocol.

I don't think it will have the long term impact of Die Hard, few action films have, but I think it will fare well long term in it's genre.

I think this is a problem with older movies in general, look at the criticism the first X-Men movie gets not compared to the universal praise it got when it was released, people forget the state comic book movies were in at the time and how they were viewed by critcs and the GA in a poor light.

I think many also forget that the buget's for comic book movies were much lower back then as well, hence the small scale action.

Hunter Rider you know my love for you is endless but you are crazy as hell if you think that the admittedly awesome Fast Five is better than the borderline masterwork that is Drive. I love both films so I'm not dissin Fast Five by writing that.

Awwwwwwww ISS. Your recent posts on Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy echo my views of Drive.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Awwwwwwww ISS. Your recent posts on Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy echo my views of Drive.

I can't believe you wrote that....

It's going to take me a couple of minutes to forgive you for this post.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Hunter, my god. I'm gonna forget you said that about Drive, and forgive you just for being a United, Bond and Star Wars fan.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Great point on the Bond movies, not all the best ones in the franchise history were full of big action or as gritty as the Craig films, and sometimes when fans watch them in reverse they don't take era context or what the film is trying to achieve into consideration when judging them.

It seems at times on this board being entertaining is a dirty word or a backhanded compliment that diminishes a movies worth. I know it's not the "cool" thing to say but Fast Five > Drive for me.

Spoiler

But in all seriousness I understand. I just hate that so many people, especially on this board are under the belief that dark and edgy = better. And I find the phrase "shut your brain off at the door" offensive. It's as if people forgot what the word "entertainment" means.

 

[Destructus86]

I easily give it a 9 out of 10. Fantastic action flick.

 

[EML420]

Really good movie I dont care what people say about Cruise the guy makes good movies. I also never understood why people disliked MI 2 so much it was my favorite MI movie lol I worship Woo.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

A 93% on Rotten Tomatoes just means that 93% of the critics gave it a positive review. That doesn't mean that most or all believe that it is the best movie of the year.

I think that First Class, Hanna, Captain American and Fast Five are all better blockbuster films but I still thought that MI4 was a solid flick and a lot of fun.

Yeah I know this ISS, but a straight action movie with no depth or character development getting so many favourable reviews surprises me still.

We are at a point where there are so many action movies it is hard to be completely new, but I felt Ghost Protocol's big set piece's felt like really fresh and innovative takes on old ideas.

While I didnt think they felt fresh, they had the perfect amount of tension and excitement to make them great to watch. But again, nothing was new, it was all innovations on stuff we have seen before.

I don't think it will have the long term impact of Die Hard, few action films have, but I think it will fare well long term in it's genre.

I dont think the M:I franchise as a whole will be remembered that fondly in later years, GP was easily the best movie in the franchise and unless an M:I5 will equal or improve on it, I dont see it being remembered for long. The franchise as a whole was very 'meh' to me before GP and this is coming from a big Tom Cruise fan.

I think many also forget that the buget's for comic book movies were much lower back then as well, hence the small scale action.

Exactly, and yet people compare X-Men to todays CB movies saying it doesnt stand up, well it does in my opinion, but many people do forget the circumstances of when it was made.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Hunter, my god. I'm gonna forget you said that about Drive, and forgive you just for being a United, Bond and Star Wars fan.

I can't believe you wrote that....

It's going to take me a couple of minutes to forgive you for this post.

Spoiler

But in all seriousness I understand. I just hate that so many people, especially on this board are under the belief that dark and edgy = better. And I find the phrase "shut your brain off at the door" offensive. It's as if people forgot what the word "entertainment" means.

Exactly, TV and movies are an entertainment medium, yet a movie that is fun is often discredited for just being fun, as if that's a bad thing, which is upside down thinking IMO.

While I didnt think they felt fresh, they had the perfect amount of tension and excitement to make them great to watch. But again, nothing was new, it was all innovations on stuff we have seen before.

To me these days innovation is the new new. It's like mo-cap, it's not a new technique but to me this past summer Ceaser took it to a new level.

I dont think the M:I franchise as a whole will be remembered that fondly in later years, GP was easily the best movie in the franchise and unless an M:I5 will equal or improve on it, I dont see it being remembered for long. The franchise as a whole was very 'meh' to me before GP and this is coming from a big Tom Cruise fan.

It may be meh to you but the franchise has been on of the most successful for nearly two decades and has several iconic elements to it.

Exactly, and yet people compare X-Men to todays CB movies saying it doesnt stand up, well it does in my opinion, but many people do forget the circumstances of when it was made.

To be honest I am not a huge fan of the first X Men movie but not for the reasons it is unfairly criticised.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

To me these days innovation is the new new. It's like mo-cap, it's not a new technique but to me this past summer Ceaser took it to a new level.

Yeah I understand were you are coming from, the mo-cap was excellent in Rise, but I thought what made that film stand out for me was having an ape as the main character in the film about a revolution. For me, thats what set Apes apart rather than the effects.

It may be meh to you but the franchise has been on of the most successful for nearly two decades and has several iconic elements to it.

I wouldnt say its been that successful, especially compared to some other big franchises like LOTR, Spiderman, etc. By the looks of things GP is going to be most successful of the lot, and it thoroughly deserves it.

To be honest I am not a huge fan of the first X Men movie but not for the reasons it is unfairly criticised.

Fair enough, for me 3 out of the 5 movies are really, but I do agree that they get some unfair criticism from people with short memories.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Domestic: $205,200,776
+ Foreign: $420,800,000
= Worldwide: $626,000,776

Tom Cruise's biggest ever hit.

 

[DyeLorean]

I'm sooo happy about that. Not only because I really like Cruise, but also because I think it's a GREAT movie. Bring in number 5, Bird!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah I understand were you are coming from, the mo-cap was excellent in Rise, but I thought what made that film stand out for me was having an ape as the main character in the film about a revolution. For me, thats what set Apes apart rather than the effects.

I agree that it was unique in achieving that, but it achieved it through the way the mo cap was used on a level not seen before, or was it performance capture? At any rate it wasn't new but it was innovative in the furthering of and use of something we have seen before, much how I felt Ghost Protocol took old concepts and put a fresh spin on them for their action sequences.

I wouldnt say its been that successful, especially compared to some other big franchises like LOTR, Spiderman, etc. By the looks of things GP is going to be most successful of the lot, and it thoroughly deserves it.

The built in fanbases of those types of franchises is unmatched, and the demographic appeal much wider than for a spy franchise.

 

[AnneFan]

Tom Cruise's biggest ever hit.

I'm glad to hear it.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Tom Cruise's biggest ever hit.

Wow, really? His biggest ever? Surprised at that! The movie is superb and deserves the money its made but Cruise being the mega-star he is I thought he would have had some higher grosses than this in his time.

I agree that it was unique in achieving that, but it achieved it through the way the mo cap was used on a level not seen before, or was it performance capture? At any rate it wasn't new but it was innovative in the furthering of and use of something we have seen before, much how I felt Ghost Protocol took old concepts and put a fresh spin on them for their action sequences.

Again though, I thought what was new and unique was making an ape the main character. Ceasar barely even talked in the movie and yet we were all rooting for him and wanting him to succeed. The SFX helped with this, but the story itself was the unique part to me.

The built in fanbases of those types of franchises is unmatched, and the demographic appeal much wider than for a spy franchise.

Mission: Impossible has a built in fanbase as well, it was a popular TV show throughout the 60's, 70's and 80's and the movie brought the name into the 90's.

 

[Donut]

A Mission Impossible movie without Tom Cruise will not make as much money. Think about that Paramount

 

[rashad]

Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol Hits Blu-ray and DVD on April 17
Source: Paramount Home Media Distribution
February 21, 2012

Called "a powerful thrill ride that is simultaneously gritty and dazzling" (Claudia Puig, USA Today) the global smash hit MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL explodes onto Blu-ray and DVD (both with UltraViolet&#8482, On Demand and Digital Download April 17, 2012 from Paramount Home Media Distribution. Boasting "a bullet train of action and an arsenal of cool gadgets" (David Germain, Associated Press), MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL delivers non-stop thrills and breathtaking stunts, including a dizzying ascent up the world's tallest building that Roger Ebert called "one of the most spellbinding stretches of film I've seen." The extraordinary Tom Cruise returns as IMF agent Ethan Hunt, along with an exceptional cast of actors including Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker), Simon Pegg (Star Trek), Paula Patton (Precious) and Michael Nyqvist (The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo). With a worldwide box office take of more than $650 million, MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL is the must-own action-thriller of the year.

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL will be available in a Limited Edition three-disc Blu-ray/DVD combo pack bursting with over two hours of special features that whisk viewers away to exotic locations in pursuit of the global production, disclose how the thrilling action sequences were captured, reveal the secrets of the life masks and other cool props, and much, much more. The film will also be available as a two-disc Blu-ray/DVD combo pack and as a single-disc DVD, each with select special features. All Blu-ray and DVD releases available for purchase will be enabled with UltraViolet, a new way to collect, access and enjoy movies. With UltraViolet, consumers can add movies to their digital collection in the cloud, and then stream or download them – reliably and securely – to a variety of devices.

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL Limited Edition 3-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack
The MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL Blu-ray containing the main feature is presented in 1080p high definition with English 7.1 Dolby TrueHD, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital, Portuguese 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Audio Description and English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The Blu-ray containing the special features is presented in 1080p high definition with English audio and English, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The DVD in the combo pack is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 TVs with English 5.1 Dolby Digital, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Audio Description and English, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows:

Blu-ray (Disc 1)
Feature film in high definition

Blu-ray (Disc 2)
Mission Accepted
Suiting Up In Prague
Heating Up In Dubai
Vancouver Fisticuffs
Impossible Missions
The Russian Prison
Shooting in IMAX®
Art Department
A Roll of Film
Life Masks
Stepping into the Storm
The Sandstorm
Dubai Car Crash
Lens on the Burj
Props
Composer
Deleted Scenes with optional commentary by director Brad Bird
Including an Alternate Opening
Trailers

DVD (Disc 3)
Feature film in standard definition

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL Two-Disc Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack
The MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL Blu-ray in the two-disc combo pack is presented in 1080p high definition with English 7.1 Dolby TrueHD, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital, Portuguese 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Audio Description and English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The DVD in the two-disc combo pack is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 TVs with English 5.1 Dolby Digital, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Audio Description and English, French, Spanish and Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows:

Blu-ray (Disc 1)
Feature film in high definition
Mission Accepted
Heating Up In Dubai
Vancouver Fisticuffs
Impossible Missions
The Sandstorm
Props
Deleted Scenes with optional commentary by director Brad Bird
Including an Alternate Opening

DVD (Disc 2)
Feature film in standard definition

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE—GHOST PROTOCOL Single-Disc DVD
The single-disc DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 TVs with English 5.1 Dolby Digital, French 5.1 Dolby Digital, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and English Audio Description and English, French and Spanish subtitles. The disc includes the feature film in standard definition, plus the following:
Impossible Missions
The Sandstorm
Props
Deleted Scenes with optional commentary by director Brad Bird

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=87298

Note: Paramount's press release did not specify whether or not the aspect ratio would open up during the feature film's IMAX® sequences.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8241

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Exactly, TV and movies are an entertainment medium, yet a movie that is fun is often discredited for just being fun, as if that's a bad thing, which is upside down thinking IMO.

It's a mentality I really hate. I really can't stand the mentality that dark = better, or deep = better, or thought provoking = better. It's as if there's a belief that filmmakers can't f**k those up.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Definately getting this on BD, and yeah hopefully like TDK and Tron Legacy it'll go to full screen during the IMAX scene's.

 

[Octoberist]

The DVD/Blu cover art is boring. There's a difference between plain..and being elegantly simplistic (Criterion DVD/Blu cover art comes to mind)

 

[Guhndoi]

I missed this at the cinema. Can't wait to get it on blu.

 

[warhorse78]

So, could the release of MI4 on DVD on April 17th, a couple of weeks before The Avengers, bode well for the superhero movie???? People who missed MI4 in the theater will catch it on DVD, and might like Jeremy Renner (which in MI4, is his most family friendly character he's ever done) and might want to watch him in the Avengers.

 

[The Morningstar]

It's a mentality I really hate. I really can't stand the mentality that dark = better, or deep = better, or thought provoking = better. It's as if there's a belief that filmmakers can't f**k those up.

Agreed. Totally agreed. It actually infuriates me when people have that mentality.

It's actually really refreshing that a "brainless" action romp like this gets massive critical acclaim. What it does, it does very, very well. That is how a film should be judged, on it's own merits and what it aims for.

 

[Pink Ranger]

So, could the release of MI4 on DVD on April 17th, a couple of weeks before The Avengers, bode well for the superhero movie???? People who missed MI4 in the theater will catch it on DVD, and might like Jeremy Renner (which in MI4, is his most family friendly character he's ever done) and might want to watch him in the Avengers.

You're probably right, but I don't think The Avengers will need a lot of help finding an audience.

It's not like a typical American family with kids is going to be like:

"Hey, Little Jimmy, do you want to go see a movie? Iron Man's in it, so is the Hulk, Thor and Captain America!"

"Nah."

"It also stars the gritty critically-acclaimed Oscar-nominated actor Jeremy Renner!"

"Really?!? Start the freakin' car, *****!!!"

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

You're probably right, but I don't think The Avengers will need a lot of help finding an audience.

It's not like a typical American family with kids is going to be like:

"Hey, Little Jimmy, do you want to go see a movie? Iron Man's in it, so is the Hulk, Thor and Captain America!"

"Nah."

"It also stars the gritty critically-acclaimed Oscar-nominated actor Jeremy Renner!"

"Really?!? Start the freakin' car, *****!!!"

 

[Octoberist]

I wish the villain was better, or had more to do beside his fight with Cruise at the end. He was pretty much nonexistent. Especially compared to the awesome Phillip Seymour Hoffman in part 3.