Comics Most annoying recent change?

[SpideyInATree]

The number of Spidey fans who find the unmasking and handling of the character, to be unfavorable, seems to out number those who don't. That doesn't make any one opinion more valid, but it does convey the mood of the general masses.

Maybe on THIS board. Go to other boards and the masses at each one are different.

And I needed to resubscribe to this thread because my subscribed threads went KAPUT and I'm not subscribed to any threads anymore!

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

ok.. well for one.. Aunt May's face hasn't been all over the news.. and majority of people can't tell one ederly woman from another.. plus she rarely seems to leave the Avenger's tower anyway... plus... if jarvis can leave the tower.. and not be in any danger.. then im sure aunt may and Mj are in the same boat... MJ on the other hand has a hard time walkin down the street anyway due to he celebrity status. It's worse to you.. and ya peter would proabably worry more.. but aunt may and MJ arnt... and it was there decision as well.. i see nothing wrong with that

Just to stir up some more trouble, Jarvis has been beaten and blackmailed more times than I can count. During Underseige, Zemo and the Masters nearly beat him to death, just for being there

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Just to stir up some more trouble, Jarvis has been beaten and blackmailed more times than I can count. During Underseige, Zemo and the Masters nearly beat him to death, just for being there

ahh but like mj and may, he knows the risk.. and like MJ and May, they believe what there doing is right...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

15-29 years is not over 20 years last time I checked.
If you could count you would realise this, in SM time it is actually 14 years.
That’s if were going on the assumption that Spidey is now of this age.
One popular theory on this board is that 50 issues of ASM is equal to that of 1 616 year.
This would mean Peter is approaching 27 years of age.
Whatever the case it is not 20 years 616 time since the Lee/Ditko era, it is 10 years minimum 15 max.
Get it right dooder.

i wasn't talking comic years ya moron.. having a character whos been around 50 years... evolves in time after writer after writer... HE HASNT BEEN THE DITKO/LEE SPIDEY FOR OVER 20 YEARS and theres alot of time theories personally ive seen the time shift.. sometimes its huge gaps.. sometimes its not

I am not ignoring this, sure MJ and May said unmask, but see if you can get your tiny mind around this concept- SHOCK- JMS does not understand/care how to write these characters!!!’
After what has happened in the past to Aunt May- being captured by GG and kept alive as a prisoner sedated for months on end, and MJ having the s-hit scared outta her/fearing for her life by Venom, neither May nor MJ would want anymore of that.
They would not want to open the floodgates to even more danger.
It is pure BS and I do not buy it.
If you do that’s great for you.
I’m glad you are entertained reading ASM, I wish I could say I was.
But maybe you should go read your back issues and see if any of this makes sense?

like i said.. you didnt grasp my whole explination... MJ and May would never put there fears in the way of what they thought was right... plus like i said... THEY'D BE ARRESTED!

Who would have ousted May and MJ?! Do you think Stark would be that much of a cock after saying that he was their friend? MJ and May could have easily moved out into an apartment w/ MJ’s money and laid low, minded their own business. None of the Avengers would have hauled them in.
As for the suit, that’s just down to bad writing again.
Like I originally said when Stark first offered the suit to PP six or so (published) months ago, PP would have said- ‘Nice suit dude but it’s not really my style, think Il stick to the old red and blues.’
That’s just what Peter Parker would have said, JMS does not get SM anymore, he does not understand the character. Peter Parker now has a different personality.
If you knew SM comics, you would know this yourself.

yes..

plus you really think sheild and the deutch bags they have been... basically mind raping spidey and vision... do you really think they wouldnt be held captive? or possibly even beaten till they were told of his where abouts ? your forgetting with or without the unmasking.. shield new who spidey was.


and as for the suit.. he trusted tony.. and idolizes his intelect.. and thought he was being kind (esp if you read the issues where they first started to bond before new avengers) peter idolizes him in the same way he idolizes connors and reed, and in some worlds (ex (the movie and the cartoon) Dr. Octavius) plus the circumstances wich caused the bonding almost wasnt by choice...

Peter was fighting the dude made of vibranium.. and needed help defeating him.. (stark helped out)

Peter's Apartment was burned.. MJ and Peter lost everything...

Aunt Mays apartment was burned to the ground.. she lost everything but a photo album

Aunt May has no money..
MJ's had a hard time finding an acting job
and peter supports MJ on a teaching salary

Tony let out a helping hand offering peter to join the New Avengers and move into stark tower... Peter really did not want to but he didnt have anyother option at the time. He hates things givin to him... and hes expressed that quite alot to stark. infact several issues after they moved in, he still would say he wanted to move out asap, when he got the money.

 

[Sloth7d]

*Looks at options*
Arg! Theres too many to decide. I wish I could pick all of the above.
Sigh,I'll just stick with the unmasking as the most bothersome recent change.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Regarding the Registration/Unmasking:
Peter Registered... wasn't that enough... the goverment having in it's Super human beings database the powrds Peter Parker a.k.a. Spider-man. Why the Overkill? Why did he just opened up the floodgates and make everyone he knows a target... I'm not talking about super villains I'm talking about the average thug that wants to gain gangsta respect , F.O.H. whacko (Remember those) trying to rid the world of these abominations, or some other crazy schmo who has a grudge against suprer powered beings... the resaon for the unmasking is SIMPLE $$$$hock value...

T3h 5u1t: After bonding with a symbiote and knowing the dangers of special suits... do you think that Peter would "Bond" with a suit that can be described as a "mech symbiote knock-off" especially coming from a guy who every now and then goes berserk and tries to destroy every bit of his "Iron Suit" tech or any armored suit tech that COULD be based on his designs... just because Jim Rhodes went nuts (and it was Stark's fault for not calibrating the suits correctly...) I'd stick to the cloth version even if I didn't know anything baout the "Armor Wars" Iron suit's too much like the symbiote to be trusted...

 

[SpideyInATree]

Regarding the Registration/Unmasking:
Peter Registered... wasn't that enough... the goverment having in it's Super human beings database the powrds Peter Parker a.k.a. Spider-man. Why the Overkill? Why did he just opened up the floodgates and make everyone he knows a target... I'm not talking about super villains I'm talking about the average thug that wants to gain gangsta respect , F.O.H. whacko (Remember those) trying to rid the world of these abominations, or some other crazy schmo who has a grudge against suprer powered beings... the resaon for the unmasking is SIMPLE $$$$hock value...

T3h 5u1t: After bonding with a symbiote and knowing the dangers of special suits... do you think that Peter would "Bond" with a suit that can be described as a "mech symbiote knock-off" especially coming from a guy who every now and then goes berserk and tries to destroy every bit of his "Iron Suit" tech or any armored suit tech that COULD be based on his designs... just because Jim Rhodes went nuts (and it was Stark's fault for not calibrating the suits correctly...) I'd stick to the cloth version even if I didn't know anything baout the "Armor Wars" Iron suit's too much like the symbiote to be trusted...

Concerning your opinions on the unmasking. I'll just tell you to reread ASM's # 529 to # 534. If all you think is that he took his mask off for basically no good reason then obviously you haven't read those issues. Nor the Illuminati one shot with Bendis and Maleev, which puts it into a better perspective.

And you're opinions on the suit? Peter Parker just died and was reborn, and Peter was also SHOT earlier in The Other storyline by the villain, Tracer. Stark felt it right to build him something with a little more protection. Peter was quite indifferent about the suit at first, but it's grown on him having some extra abilities to his powers. Once again, read the books instead of passing immediate judgement because the costume is red and gold and Tony Stark gave it to him.

 

[Dangerous]

i wasn't talking comic years ya moron.. having a character whos been around 50 years... evolves in time after writer after writer... HE HASNT BEEN THE DITKO/LEE SPIDEY FOR OVER 20 YEARS and theres alot of time theories personally ive seen the time shift.. sometimes its huge gaps.. sometimes its not

The character has been around for 44 years, not 50 Moron.
Since you mentioned the number 20, I inferred that you were referring to the 616 timeline not published shelf life. Since 20 is closer a number to the 14 years you were making out have passed in PP’s life since getting bitten by the spider, than the 40 years it has actually been since the last ever Lee/Ditko SM comic hit the shelves in the guise of ASM#38.
Sure a character evolves as time goes by and he grows older but he won’t forget the hard learned lessons of the past (his enemies getting to May/MJ) or abandon the basic rules that hold everything together for him (secret ID).

like i said.. you didnt grasp my whole explination... MJ and May would never put there fears in the way of what they thought was right... plus like i said... THEY'D BE ARRESTED!

I grasped your explanation, but you have not yet grasped that your understanding of current 616 SM is based on JMS’ incorrect characterisation of these characters.
The past repercussions of MJ and May’s affiliation to Spider-man being known to his enemies would definitely be a significant factor in swaying the decision from MJ and May for SM not to unmask.
Peter too would be aware of this and for him it would be one of the main reasons not to do it.

yes..

plus you really think sheild and the deutch bags they have been... basically mind raping spidey and vision... do you really think they wouldnt be held captive? or possibly even beaten till they were told of his where abouts ? your forgetting with or without the unmasking.. shield new who spidey was.


and as for the suit.. he trusted tony.. and idolizes his intelect.. and thought he was being kind (esp if you read the issues where they first started to bond before new avengers) peter idolizes him in the same way he idolizes connors and reed, and in some worlds (ex (the movie and the cartoon) Dr. Octavius) plus the circumstances wich caused the bonding almost wasnt by choice...

Peter was fighting the dude made of vibranium.. and needed help defeating him.. (stark helped out)

Peter's Apartment was burned.. MJ and Peter lost everything...

Aunt Mays apartment was burned to the ground.. she lost everything but a photo album

Aunt May has no money..
MJ's had a hard time finding an acting job
and peter supports MJ on a teaching salary

Tony let out a helping hand offering peter to join the New Avengers and move into stark tower... Peter really did not want to but he didnt have anyother option at the time. He hates things givin to him... and hes expressed that quite alot to stark. infact several issues after they moved in, he still would say he wanted to move out asap, when he got the money.

Exactly PP hates hand outs, thus he would not have excepted the suit on top of everything else.
PP is a very independent guy, as if he would be living in Starks home and then wearing his costumes as well. Like you say S.H.E.I.L.D. know who Spidey is, why would the authorities bother tracking two insignificant women down when they could get the confirmation of who SM is from much more reliable sources such as S.H.E.I.L.D. or the Avengers?
If Spidey wanted to fight it (which he should have) he could have asked MJ/May to protect his secret and lie for him and you know they would do that. Then he could have sided w/ the resistance.
What are the police going to do beat an elderly woman and her neese in law?
I don’t think so and you can only be held for 24 hours for basic questioning.
They would not seek out MJ and May they would go for something more concrete like the sources mentioned above. Don’t forget a big part of all laws is just mind control over the people.
Believing that X will happen to me if Y does not do this right. Point is they will always say more than they will actually do, to make people fall in line w/ their perfect vision of society.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Concerning your opinions on the unmasking. I'll just tell you to reread ASM's # 529 to # 534. If all you think is that he took his mask off for basically no good reason then obviously you haven't read those issues. Nor the Illuminati one shot with Bendis and Maleev, which puts it into a better perspective.

Rereading those issues does not change my mind. I still belive the unmasking was made for pure $$$$hock value. It still feels forced and out of character for Peter to do so... no matter how many times MJ or May tell him to unmask... (Unless they've developed Stockholm syndrome)
We could go around this all year You think Unmasking opens up great new stories... I do not...

And you're opinions on the suit? Peter Parker just died and was reborn, and Peter was also SHOT earlier in The Other storyline by the villain, Tracer. Stark felt it right to build him something with a little more protection. Peter was quite indifferent about the suit at first, but it's grown on him having some extra abilities to his powers. Once again, read the books instead of passing immediate judgement because the costume is red and gold and Tony Stark gave it to him.

I'm not passing judgement RIGHT NOW on the horrible color scheme, I'm saying that Peter wouldn't accept a symbiote-like suit, because of his past experiences, also Stark isn't the most trustworthy person in the MU. What stops Stark from disabling the Spidey suit if Spidey disagrees with Stark...
Yes he needed more protection but when protection comes in the shape of a mechanical symbiote impersonator it could be risky... There's also the possibility that the suit might "become sentient" and it could spell trouble for Pete...

Everytime I reread this crap I'm reminded on how much Quesada's team hates Spider-man... Peter Parker died... a wannabe took his place... Right now I'm wishing Ben Reilly was the real one...

 

[Dangerous]

Rereading those issues does not change my mind. I still belive the unmasking was made for pure $$$$hock value. It still feels forced and out of character for Peter to do so... no matter how many times MJ or May tell him to unmask... (Unless they've developed Stockholm syndrome)
We could go around this all year You think Unmasking opens up great new stories... I do not...


I'm not passing judgement RIGHT NOW on the horrible color scheme, I'm saying that Peter wouldn't accept a symbiote-like suit, because of his past experiences, also Stark isn't the most trustworthy person in the MU. What stops Stark from disabling the Spidey suit if Spidey disagrees with Stark...
Yes he needed more protection but when protection comes in the shape of a mechanical symbiote impersonator it could be risky... There's also the possibility that the suit might "become sentient" and it could spell trouble for Pete...

Everytime I reread this crap I'm reminded on how much Quesada's team hates Spider-man... Peter Parker died... a wannabe took his place... Right now I'm wishing Ben Reilly was the real one...

You know it.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Rereading those issues does not change my mind. I still belive the unmasking was made for pure $$$$hock value. It still feels forced and out of character for Peter to do so... no matter how many times MJ or May tell him to unmask... (Unless they've developed Stockholm syndrome)
We could go around this all year You think Unmasking opens up great new stories... I do not...

I'm not passing judgement RIGHT NOW on the horrible color scheme, I'm saying that Peter wouldn't accept a symbiote-like suit, because of his past experiences, also Stark isn't the most trustworthy person in the MU. What stops Stark from disabling the Spidey suit if Spidey disagrees with Stark...
Yes he needed more protection but when protection comes in the shape of a mechanical symbiote impersonator it could be risky... There's also the possibility that the suit might "become sentient" and it could spell trouble for Pete...

Everytime I reread this crap I'm reminded on how much Quesada's team hates Spider-man... Peter Parker died... a wannabe took his place... Right now I'm wishing Ben Reilly was the real one...

It's not a symbiote-like suit. So, you dislike it because it was for "pure shock value". No offense, but half the time in ALL comic books, not just Spider-Man comics half the crap that happens is for pure shock value.

Like Bucky returning in Captain America. Jason Todd returning in the Batman comics. Blue Beetle having his brains blown out. Hal Jordan returning to the Green Lantern mantle. Infinite Crisis was a gigantic story filled with nothing BUT shock value.

So, yeah, the unmasking was there for shock value. And, yeah, Marvel and Joe Quesada want to make money. How else do they stay in business? How else do they keep producing these comic books and paying the writers and artists to do this job? You think that by having Peter Parker and Mary Jane living in their tiny crapbox apartment in Soho while Peter fights the villain of the month each issue is going to put the same amount of money or more of it than what's going on now? Not that it justifies what is going on, there have been crappy storylines, but the unmasking is far from being a horribly written storyline so far. Spider-Man fans are just angry because they feel that his secret identity is like the freakin' ring from the Lord of the Rings. PRECIOUS!! MY PRECIOUS!!!!!!! The storyline has been developing for quite some time. If you didn't think that mask was coming off in the near future when he joined the New Avengers you were living in a TRUE fantasy world, because ever since he joined the team it's just been one giant build up to this mask coming off, and the superhuman registration act was the straw that broke the camels back.

And, yes, I agree with you on one point...I like the stories that this opens up and I'm having the time of my life with Spider-Man comics, the same way I was having a blast with the Clone Saga about 10 years ago. If I weren't such a liberal Spider-Man fan when it comes to new story possibilities I'm sure I'd be screaming "He's out of character! He's out of character!". But I'm not because he isn't out of character. Everything is right there in front of your face inside the pages of Amazing Spider-Man, New Avengers, and in Civil War (preludes and the miniseries). I can't stop people from being angry, and until people put senseless anger aside at a suit, stinger, Sins Past, The Other, and whatever else bugs you...you'll probably never enjoy the Spider-Man books again, and I truly feel sorry for you and other posters who feel so angry.

 

[shinlyle]

Concerning your opinions on the unmasking. I'll just tell you to reread ASM's # 529 to # 534. If all you think is that he took his mask off for basically no good reason then obviously you haven't read those issues. Nor the Illuminati one shot with Bendis and Maleev, which puts it into a better perspective.

And you're opinions on the suit? Peter Parker just died and was reborn, and Peter was also SHOT earlier in The Other storyline by the villain, Tracer. Stark felt it right to build him something with a little more protection. Peter was quite indifferent about the suit at first, but it's grown on him having some extra abilities to his powers. Once again, read the books instead of passing immediate judgement because the costume is red and gold and Tony Stark gave it to him.

I think that Peter thought he was doing things for the right reason, but he was pretty much goaded into it by Tony Stark...something that will come up later in Civil War, I'm CERTAIN...but the decision was Peter's. The RESPONSIBILITY for unmasking, as well as the resulting consequences, are Peter's. Immedaitaly after unmasking, Peter tried to put the blame whatever happens to Aunt May or MJ on Stark. Now, Iron Man has been an arrogant ass lately, but this was all Peter's doing. Passing responsibility onto someone else for his own actions is where Peter really seems out of character to me.

Being Tony's lackey aside, costume aside, Peter should never be a character to shirk his responsibility.

Well, as for the suit...in ASM#534, it's revealed that Stark has included some sort of technology that monitors Peter's actions and feeds the data back to Tony, as revealed by Tony knowing about Peter's Spider-sense. I imagine this was done when Tony "revised" Peter's suit before after their trip to Washington to combat the registration act. Apparently, Toyn has never been totally up-front with Peteer, and I'd wager that'll come back around later as well.

Yes, Tony may have started out helping Peter, but, as seen by the design scheme for the suit and his hidden technology in the suit, Tony's intentions were clearly aimed towards this little endeavor benefitting him as well. His intentions weren't wholly pure on this one.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Add to that he's been manipulating Peter from the get-go. Let's not forget the Titanium Man incident.

 

[shinlyle]

Add to that he's been manipulating Peter from the get-go. Let's not forget the Titanium Man incident.

Egg-zachary.t:

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's not a symbiote-like suit. So, you dislike it because it was for "pure shock value". No offense, but half the time in ALL comic books, not just Spider-Man comics half the crap that happens is for pure shock value.

Like Bucky returning in Captain America. Jason Todd returning in the Batman comics. Blue Beetle having his brains blown out. Hal Jordan returning to the Green Lantern mantle. Infinite Crisis was a gigantic story filled with nothing BUT shock value.

So, yeah, the unmasking was there for shock value. And, yeah, Marvel and Joe Quesada want to make money. How else do they stay in business? How else do they keep producing these comic books and paying the writers and artists to do this job? You think that by having Peter Parker and Mary Jane living in their tiny crapbox apartment in Soho while Peter fights the villain of the month each issue is going to put the same amount of money or more of it than what's going on now? Not that it justifies what is going on, there have been crappy storylines, but the unmasking is far from being a horribly written storyline so far. Spider-Man fans are just angry because they feel that his secret identity is like the freakin' ring from the Lord of the Rings. PRECIOUS!! MY PRECIOUS!!!!!!! The storyline has been developing for quite some time. If you didn't think that mask was coming off in the near future when he joined the New Avengers you were living in a TRUE fantasy world, because ever since he joined the team it's just been one giant build up to this mask coming off, and the superhuman registration act was the straw that broke the camels back.

And, yes, I agree with you on one point...I like the stories that this opens up and I'm having the time of my life with Spider-Man comics, the same way I was having a blast with the Clone Saga about 10 years ago. If I weren't such a liberal Spider-Man fan when it comes to new story possibilities I'm sure I'd be screaming "He's out of character! He's out of character!". But I'm not because he isn't out of character. Everything is right there in front of your face inside the pages of Amazing Spider-Man, New Avengers, and in Civil War (preludes and the miniseries). I can't stop people from being angry, and until people put senseless anger aside at a suit, stinger, Sins Past, The Other, and whatever else bugs you...you'll probably never enjoy the Spider-Man books again, and I truly feel sorry for you and other posters who feel so angry.

yay another great post that explains how i feel... but worded much better!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think that Peter thought he was doing things for the right reason, but he was pretty much goaded into it by Tony Stark...something that will come up later in Civil War, I'm CERTAIN...but the decision was Peter's. The RESPONSIBILITY for unmasking, as well as the resulting consequences, are Peter's. Immedaitaly after unmasking, Peter tried to put the blame whatever happens to Aunt May or MJ on Stark. Now, Iron Man has been an arrogant ass lately, but this was all Peter's doing. Passing responsibility onto someone else for his own actions is where Peter really seems out of character to me.

Being Tony's lackey aside, costume aside, Peter should never be a character to shirk his responsibility.

Well, as for the suit...in ASM#534, it's revealed that Stark has included some sort of technology that monitors Peter's actions and feeds the data back to Tony, as revealed by Tony knowing about Peter's Spider-sense. I imagine this was done when Tony "revised" Peter's suit before after their trip to Washington to combat the registration act. Apparently, Toyn has never been totally up-front with Peteer, and I'd wager that'll come back around later as well.

Yes, Tony may have started out helping Peter, but, as seen by the design scheme for the suit and his hidden technology in the suit, Tony's intentions were clearly aimed towards this little endeavor benefitting him as well. His intentions weren't wholly pure on this one.

no one is dissagreeign with this.. peter's trust is on a really fine line with Tony, and thats about to end real soon. Peter was given alot of help from tony.. and thought he could trust him.. and thats turning out to be wrong

 

[SpideyInATree]

I think that Peter thought he was doing things for the right reason, but he was pretty much goaded into it by Tony Stark...something that will come up later in Civil War, I'm CERTAIN...but the decision was Peter's. The RESPONSIBILITY for unmasking, as well as the resulting consequences, are Peter's. Immedaitaly after unmasking, Peter tried to put the blame whatever happens to Aunt May or MJ on Stark. Now, Iron Man has been an arrogant ass lately, but this was all Peter's doing. Passing responsibility onto someone else for his own actions is where Peter really seems out of character to me.

Being Tony's lackey aside, costume aside, Peter should never be a character to shirk his responsibility.

Well, as for the suit...in ASM#534, it's revealed that Stark has included some sort of technology that monitors Peter's actions and feeds the data back to Tony, as revealed by Tony knowing about Peter's Spider-sense. I imagine this was done when Tony "revised" Peter's suit before after their trip to Washington to combat the registration act. Apparently, Toyn has never been totally up-front with Peteer, and I'd wager that'll come back around later as well.

Yes, Tony may have started out helping Peter, but, as seen by the design scheme for the suit and his hidden technology in the suit, Tony's intentions were clearly aimed towards this little endeavor benefitting him as well. His intentions weren't wholly pure on this one.

Well, that's the whole fun of the story is for Peter to find out that Tony Stark has been slightly manipulating him, that's what makes it a STORY as opposed to Peter just quickly saying, "Oh, my spider sense is tingling. Tony Stark is a bad boy. I'm going to swing on over to the anti-registration side." Wouldn't have been much of a story if you ask me.

I mean, if you read the Illuminati one shot that Bendis and Maleev did Tony Stark tossed Spider-Man out there for the wolves before he even asked him to unmask. The hints have been there all along.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Add to that he's been manipulating Peter from the get-go. Let's not forget the Titanium Man incident.

exactly.. wich is imo the reason behind why hes been acting out of character... and i know people will say "well he should have known from the get go" and im sorry but no, if anyone went through what peter and his family did they would have trusted tony too... but tony has taken advantage of peter

 

[shinlyle]

I mean, if you read the Illuminati one shot that Bendis and Maleev did Tony Stark tossed Spider-Man out there for the wolves before he even asked him to unmask. The hints have been there all along.

I did read it....and it was pretty much stated that he would. We all knew he would do it when we thought "Spider-man would never unmask...he has too much to lose."

Than again, a year or two ago, I thought, "Spider-Man would never kill a guy and eat his head."

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I did read it....and it was pretty much stated that he would. We all knew he would do it when we thought "Spider-man would never unmask...he has too much to lose."

Than again, a year or two ago, I thought, "Spider-Man would never kill a guy and eat his head."

in all fairness... that wasn't peter.. but "the spider" peter parker was dead during that...

and actually i was still shocked by the unmasking.. i kinda thought he'd chicken out at the last minute and it'd be for shock value ben reilley or someone else

 

[Chris Wallace]

exactly.. wich is imo the reason behind why hes been acting out of character... and i know people will say "well he should have known from the get go" and im sorry but no, if anyone went through what peter and his family did they would have trusted tony too... but tony has taken advantage of peter

But that doesn't make it a good idea. Doing something stupid b/c someone told you to is even dumber than deciding to do it on your own.
And hadn't you previously said that he hasn't been acting out of character & he has been making his own decisions?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

he is making his own decisions based on his morals on trust as well as his honor.. he made a pact with Tony...

right now hes torn and hes about to realise the wrongs

 

[shinlyle]

in all fairness... that wasn't peter.. but "the spider" peter parker was dead during that...

That doesn't make it any better. In fact, the more in-depth explanation makes it sound even dumber....

and actually i was still shocked by the unmasking.. i kinda thought he'd chicken out at the last minute and it'd be for shock value ben reilley or someone else

I HOPED he'd chicken out at the last minute.

Personally, I think he should have unmasked the way he did in Spider-Man: Black, Blue, & Read all Over. That was how it should have been handled, and that shows Peter Parker using his brain AND his heart.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That doesn't make it any better. In fact, the more in-depth explanation makes it sound even dumber....



I HOPED he'd chicken out at the last minute.

Personally, I think he should have unmasked the way he did in Spider-Man: Black, Blue, & Read all Over. That was how it should have been handled, and that shows Peter Parker using his brain AND his heart.

eh.. ya but its better then parker intintionally doing it imo

i havent read black blue and read all over.. whats it about? whats the cover look like?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I never even heard of it.