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I really don't have high standards for these fims considering what has come out over the years in horrible sequels. These remakes are definately
better than the last film each horror franchise had to offer. Anyone who saw TCM 2000 can attest to that.

True. After H5-6 and Resurrection, I am completely fine with Zombie doing a revamp. I actually saw H1 (the remake) as a pretty good slasher film that incorporated character development, psychological underpinnings some good acting, horrific kills (as opposed to being sheer entertainment) and a level of pathos to the proceedings not seen in a decade. But the movie was incredibly uneven and half the dialogue was terrible redneck ********. But I was fine with the new direction, but it still feels like it is missing a lot compared to the original. The sequel, well if it weren't for Brad Dourif and Danielle Harris, I doubt I'd have given it any stars. Those characters and a few scenes elevated that movie.


It just seems like wasted opportunites. I noticed you removed House of Wax from list by the way.
 
My problem with the F13 remake is it wasn't scary! They made a lot of the same mistakes with the remake that were made in many of the sequels. They substituted suspense with gore. Having a bigger body count and more gruesome deaths doesn't scarier. Not unless there's good suspense leading up to the deaths. But any scenes that would've been even remotely suspenseful were ruined by putting them in the trailers.

I will give the new Friday The 13th this though. I did like how they once again made Jason into a psychotic hillbilly like in F13 #2 through #4. But in my opinion, Friday The 13th #1 through #5 are the only ones worth watching. The new one? I can't believe I actually paid money to go see it. Maybe the uncut version is better, I don't know. But the theatrical release isn't worth the paper the ticket was printed on.
 
But as for Child's Play Hardly original. I mean creepy doll stories have been around forever. and I like Child's play so I'm not dissing it. The original idea for Childs play was for Andy to be the actuall killer be revealed and was using the chucky doll as s split personality and it was originally called Batteries not included, but couldn't use that for obvious reason and it was called Blood Buddies for the longest time where the doll would bleed and thats how Chucky came to life.
Very true, though, the difference between those and Childs Play is that Chucky kicks ALOT of ass. :word::up:
 
My problem with the F13 remake is it wasn't scary! They made a lot of the same mistakes with the remake that were made in many of the sequels. They substituted suspense with gore. Having a bigger body count and more gruesome deaths doesn't scarier. Not unless there's good suspense leading up to the deaths. But any scenes that would've been even remotely suspenseful were ruined by putting them in the trailers.

I will give the new Friday The 13th this though. I did like how they once again made Jason into a psychotic hillbilly like in F13 #2 through #4. But in my opinion, Friday The 13th #1 through #5 are the only ones worth watching. The new one? I can't believe I actually paid money to go see it. Maybe the uncut version is better, I don't know. But the theatrical release isn't worth the paper the ticket was printed on.

Lol psychotic hillbilly. He was RAMBO like with his quickness and hunting abilities.
 
Every camp movie after 1980 was a rip off of Friday. The Burning, Madman, Sleepaway and countless other films that are sitting in a box in VHS form and never known about these days.
 
Lol psychotic hillbilly. He was RAMBO like with his quickness and hunting abilities.

See, that's where I go off because Jason was no different (other then appearance) in the remake than he was in parts 2-4. It was only until 6 that he became the slow stalking type.
 
See, that's where I go off because Jason was no different (other then appearance) in the remake than he was in parts 2-4. It was only until 6 that he became the slow stalking type.

I rather have RAMBO style Jason who sets traps and runs fast. Then slow zombie Jason.
 
i was working on my friday fan fic today, didnt lkill anybody, but theres a lot of running, and some one shot jason in the eye! then hes gonna die, i mean this guys like paronios right, so he has like every weapon used by rambo or arnold in amovie in the back of his truck, fter using all his shotgun amo on jason, he shoots him in the left eye with a six shooter pistol, he looks away and gets picked up and impaled, someone also kicked jason in the nads
 
Every camp movie after 1980 was a rip off of Friday. The Burning, Madman, Sleepaway and countless other films that are sitting in a box in VHS form and never known about these days.
The only thing the first Sleepaway Camp ripped off of the F13 movies were that it took place in a summer camp. The Sleepaway Camp sequels however, I'll agree; The seemed like F13 movie with quips by Freddy Kruegger.
i was working on my friday fan fic today, didnt lkill anybody, but theres a lot of running, and some one shot jason in the eye! then hes gonna die, i mean this guys like paronios right, so he has like every weapon used by rambo or arnold in amovie in the back of his truck, fter using all his shotgun amo on jason, he shoots him in the left eye with a six shooter pistol, he looks away and gets picked up and impaled, someone also kicked jason in the nads
A F13 fan fic? How much have you got done?

I'm re-working my horror movie mix fan fic.
 
^^ Part 4 has always been my #1 favorite Jason film, wih part 3 coming in at second place, I think.
 
I like the fan commentary for part 4. Its part of the new deluxe edition. It has Directors Adam Green and Joe Lynch talk about the movie. Its a good fun thing to listen too.
 
I'll always pick Part 2 as my fav, followed by 3,4, and 5. The rest suck. haha
 
But you didn't explain why you think their better. I am just asking that's all. I mean this is a message board for conversations.


Well, I think they're better because the film makers put more emphasis on building suspense rather than using cheap gimmics to ilicit a quick start.

Halloween (1978): Only 5 deaths in the whole movie, including Judith Myers and the tow truck driver. After Michael escapes from Smiths Grove Sanitarium, we only get to see 3 deaths (the mechanic wasn't shown, only the aftermath). When Michael killed Annie, he had plenty of opportunities to do so. While she was making popcorn. While she was washing her clothes. While she was stuck in the laundryroom window. While she was walking to and from the Doyle house. But he didn't. He waited until she got in the car to go pick up Paul. He could've killed Lynda and Bob while they were making out on the couch (he was right there watching them), but he didn't. He could've killed them while they were upstairs making love (he walked right past the bedroom), but he didn't. He could've just come right up to Bob or Lynda and slashed their throats, but he didn't. He stalked each of them seperately and killed them each in his own time. That made it so much scarier.

Halloween (remake): I couldn't even keep track of the bodycount in this movie. Most of them were simply Michael jumping out of nowhere and killing them in the most violent and brutal way imaginable. He just walks up to Annie and Paul and attacks them with a knife. No waiting and watching whatsoever. The only part of the movie I liked was the deaths of Bob and Lynda, because they were kept more or less the same as in the original. RZ had his own twist to them, but in essence they were the same scenes.

Friday The 13th (1980): Mrs. Voorhees spends most of the movie just watching the camp counselors. There's the 2 deaths right at the beginning (according to the F13 comics those were the two counselors who were supposed to be watching Jason the day he drowned), then the camp cook Annie, but for the most part we really didn't see much. I mean, the first time you ever saw the original did you really expect Kevin Bacon to get stabbed from underneath the bed? And you didn't really know when the girl in the bathroom would get it until you saw the silhouette of the ax rising up behind her (you knew she was going to get it in the bathroom, just not when or how). And waiting until the very end to reveal that Mrs Voorhees was the killer was brilliant (admit it, first time you ever watched the movie you thought the killer was a man).

Friday The 13th (Remake): They didn't even attempt to recreate any of the classic scenes from the original. Even if they had, Jason would've just walked up to them and killed them. The Kevin Bacon scene? That would've been handled more like the bedroom scene in Freddy vs Jason. The bathroom scene? Jason would've just kicked in the stall door and put the ax through her face.

Today's film makers are confusing quantity with quality, which is what hurts the remakes. If they'd stay true to the spirit of the originals, they'd have better quality movies.
 
True. After H5-6 and Resurrection, I am completely fine with Zombie doing a revamp. I actually saw H1 (the remake) as a pretty good slasher film that incorporated character development, psychological underpinnings some good acting, horrific kills (as opposed to being sheer entertainment) and a level of pathos to the proceedings not seen in a decade. But the movie was incredibly uneven and half the dialogue was terrible redneck ********. But I was fine with the new direction, but it still feels like it is missing a lot compared to the original. The sequel, well if it weren't for Brad Dourif and Danielle Harris, I doubt I'd have given it any stars. Those characters and a few scenes elevated that movie.


It just seems like wasted opportunites. I noticed you removed House of Wax from list by the way.


I enjoy Rob Zombie films and he has shown he is talented. My only problem is when it gets too trashy and thank god that rape scene never made it into the first. I think he did a good job making Myers scary again but there is little mystery. Dourif and Harris gave the best performances in H2 . I was rooting more for Harris to make it than Laurie , lol

House of Wax , I never saw the original. I thought the remake was ok.
 
Please dear God keep Zombie away from this movie...

House of Wax had a terrible first two acts, but a good third act, and I loved Orphan. I'd much rather have that director working on F13 than Zombie.
 
Orphan was really shot well for a Horror/thriller.


Plus how did we get talking about Zombie for a F13 sequel. I'm sure Rob is done with any kind of those slashers after what happen with him and the weinsteins.

Plus he doesn't exactly fit into the kind of director PD is looking for. I think Jaume Collet-Serra could be a good fit if PD can get him away from Joel Silver and Dark Castle Productions.
 
I think Alexandre Aja would be the perfect director for F13.

Nispel has some talent, the problem with him is he's just not passionate about the genre. He views it as a stepping stone to what he thinks are "bigger and better things," I think Pathfinder is the best film he's directed in his opinion.

They need someone that really loves this genre and wants to be working in it.
 
Mirrors was awful imo. Hills was amazing. Holding out on the guy to do a great fun horror flick for the Pirannah movie.
 
I think Alexandre Aja would be the perfect director for F13.

Nispel has some talent, the problem with him is he's just not passionate about the genre. He views it as a stepping stone to what he thinks are "bigger and better things," I think Pathfinder is the best film he's directed in his opinion.

They need someone that really loves this genre and wants to be working in it.
People would only complain more about him not bein able to do anything original. Since he did the hills remake and has the upcoming Piranha 3d remake coming up.

I'd like to see Jonathan Liebesman try it out. He originally was suppose to direct the 2009 F13 movie. I liked what he brought to the TCM prequel.
 
I spent last night watching the special features to the three new Deluxe editons of 4,5 and 6 and I must say...they are well worth picking up.

There's a featurett on all three called 'Revisiting the Crystal Lake Massacure' parts 1, 2 and 3 (one episode per disc) and it is pretty hilarious to watch. It's as if the murders were real and locals talking about theories and what really happened and it's just histarical.

DVD's 4 and 6 have the most extra stuff on them, and extended deleated scenes which are really cool. For Part 4 there's a deleted 'dream' ending where Tommy's sister finders their mother dead in the bath tub and Jason is behind her. Pretty cool scene.

Part 6 you have a storyboard scene voiced by the guy who played the 'care taker' of the graives that showes what the orginal ending was to be like with Elias Voorhee's. Some extended deleted scenes and a making of clip.

Each of the new Deluxe dvd's come with a Lost Tales of Camp Blood clip....but still there is NO PART 3!!!!!!!!!!! WTF? There's a gap between 2 and 4. No big deal since these clips aren't anything special.

Over all, the quality of the picture is great for the disc. From what I could tale, all the stuff on the new dvd's are completely NEW and nothing I've seen before on any other dvd about Friday the 13th.

Oh, and Part 5 has the best little 'Making of' clip. Seriously guys, Part 5 is under rated and fully deserves the Friday the 13th label to it. HAHA... Watch the featurett for Part 5 and you'll completely understand the inside joke here. It was a great clip to watch and funny as hell.

So yeah. I say they're worth picking up if you got the money. $13 each isn't bad.

Yeah, I love the special features in these movies. I watched Part 4 with both the directors commentary and the fans commentary. Personally I liked the fans commentary better than the directors commentary, it was funnier. The Lost Tales Of Camp Blood were kinda lame. They had the style of a Friday The 13th movie, but the killer was really lame (some guy in a hoody? Give me a break). I liked the making of featurettes, etc. All that stuff was awsome. Same with the mocumentary The Crystal Lake Massacre Revisited, very cool.
 
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