New Live Action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Movie In The Works? - Part 5

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"You must never reveal yourselves to the ones outside on the surface. For if they are to discover the truth, they will not understand what you are. They will have fear of you. That is why you must always keep yourselves concealed."

I'm trying to decide if this sounds more like Master Splinter or the head of this film's advertising.
 
No but arguably a mutant turtle wearing stuff is stupid.

Also I think there's a stronger argument that wearing specifically those clothes and accessories is very stupid.

I thought the argument was that the stuff itself was stupid?

As for whether it's stupid simply because it's in fact on them. Well why, can anyone explain this. Is it less stupid that they are naked?
Are the bandanas and belts from antiquity stupid too or does the buck stop there?

Lastly, when sentient creatures gain colloquial intelligence and and personality, why on earth wouldn't they dress themselves up as best fits the personality, best protects them from harm? I've said this in the past but has anyone here watched gargoyles?
 
"You must never reveal yourselves to the ones outside on the surface. For if they are to discover the truth, they will not understand what you are. They will have fear of you. That is why you must always keep yourselves concealed."

I'm trying to decide if this sounds more like Master Splinter or the head of this film's advertising.
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The justifications for it don't really pan out. Let's go through the various defenses people have for the turtles wearing these clothes and accessories...

It's realistic

The standard argument is that real life turtles are cold blooded and thus they should clothe themselves to keep warm.

Putting aside there's nothing in the established canon of the franchise that says that mutant turtles are cold blooded, real life cold blooded creatures get along without clothes.

Also if this was in the minds of the designers then the turtles should be covered head to toe in clothes not wearing just pants and loin clothes. What protection from the temperature would those provide?

It's battle ready

The actual designer commented that these designs are to symbolize the characters ninja backgrounds and that are battle ready warriors.

That defense doesn't hold much water when only two of the turtles (Leo and Don) are wearing ninja...or rather samurai inspired gear and look ready for battle.

Also I'm not sure just how ready for battle Don and Leo really are? How stealthy can turtles really be with all that extra gear clicking and clacking. I suppose being cgi it may not be an issue but if say the Foot raid the lair (something which based on set pics seems to happen) will Leo and Don ask the Foot Ninja to wait while one puts on his armor and the other gets his proton pack?

They are just expressing their individuality like real people do

Now this is one that holds a little bit of water, I guess the question is would the turtles be compelled to wear clothes like humans or knowing they aren't human find it unnecessary, it's not like they have human anatomies with visible genitalia to cover up etc.

I see both sides of the argument and it has been shown in several incarnations from the Mirage comics to the Fred Wolf show to 2K3 series that the turtles aren't against a bit of human clothing such as a T-Shirt, a baseball cap out of a sense of whimsy or occasion.

Even if you think it should be the norm I'd argue they way they've gone about this is stupid. Unless you define yourself as part of a particular group like say a goth most people wear similar clothes, the variation is on a persons whims. A sportier person might wear a polo shirt and a smarter person might wear a button shirt, someone who is a big fan of particular band might wear a T-Shirt displaying that but most people don't express themselves in such overblown and drastically different ways. A bit of subtlety would have been better.

Now the defense of the original designs and variations on it make much more sense.

Obviously there's no reason the turtles should wear bandannas. It's always been a conceit but an acceptable one as it very simply but very effectively conveys that they are ninjas.

Their belts serve a practical purpose holding their main weapons as well as stuff like shuriken and climbing claws etc.

I would argue the simple look works better to convey they battle ready warriors as that's all they need. They can occasionally get extra gear for very specific missions but 90% of the time they have everything they need right there.
 
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No but arguably a mutant turtle wearing stuff is stupid.

Also I think there's a stronger argument that wearing specifically those clothes and accessories is very stupid.

Because they want to dress to fit in is stupid or they dress because they like a particular style is stupid? I disagree.
 
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The standard argument is that real life turtles are cold blooded and thus they should clothe themselves to keep warm.

Putting aside there's nothing in the established canon of the franchise that says that mutant turtles are cold blooded, real life cold blooded creatures get along without clothes.
^Here you bring up an argument I've personally never heard, then go on to shoot it down yourself. That's probably the reason I've never heard it before. Bald mammals such as humans are the ones that would need clothes, reptiles and fish do fine on their own. If someone wants to bring up 'realism' as an argument, there are some real points one could highlight. Cold blooded isn't one of them.

That defense doesn't hold much water when only two of the turtles (Leo and Don) are wearing ninja...or rather samurai inspired gear and look ready for battle.
So because only two of them have been shown armored up and not the rest of them, it somehow debunks the whole idea? No, next we'll be debunking the point behind batman's armored cowl due to Robin only wearing a domino mask.
Also I'm not sure just how ready for battle Don and Leo really are? How stealthy can turtles really be with all that extra gear clicking and clacking. I suppose being cgi it may not be an issue but if say the Foot raid the lair (something which based on set pics seems to happen) will Leo and Don ask the Foot Ninja to wait while one puts on his armor and the other gets his proton pack?
No one asks Shredder about how stealthy he can be with his traditional Japanese armor... No one asks if the shredder asks if his intruders would wait while he get's dressed during possible and frequent raids...
They are just expressing their individuality like real people do
Ever stop and wonder why just about every single mutant villain from the original and modern cartoon has some sort of attire on? From army pants to vests to hillbilly garb...why is it people are only now stopping short when the same is applied to the turtles?
As always I don't think fans really know what their issue is, only that things are different and it's jarring and or bothersome. The only real inconsistencies are in the arguments imo.

I find it interesting that no one is complaining about Splinter being dressed up in the Bay version, given he's just a rat.
 
^Here you bring up an argument I've personally never heard, then go on to shoot it down yourself. That's probably the reason I've never heard it before. Bald mammals such as humans are the ones that would need clothes, reptiles and fish do fine on their own. If someone wants to bring up 'realism' as an argument, there are some real points one could highlight. Cold blooded isn't one of them.

I've seen the cold blooded argument quite a lot and you're correct that it doesn't make any sense but people are using that to justify these designs.

So because only two of them have been shown armored up and not the rest of them, it somehow debunks the whole idea?

I think it's safe to say that what we've seen is their standard look that they'll be sporting throughout most of the film.

I can see Leo not wearing the full armor and Don not having his proton pack and perhaps Mike and Raph not having the leather straps (that seem to serve no purpose other than looking kewel) in scenes were they chillin' in the lair but what we've seen is the equivalent of their super hero costume so yes the whole idea that the turtles are dressed for battle doesn't fly at all.

No one asks Shredder about how stealthy he can be with his traditional Japanese armor... No one asks if the shredder asks if his intruders would wait while he get's dressed during possible and frequent raids...

Do you mean Shredder in general or this Shredder in particular?

Shredder in original Mirage comics spent quite a lot of time not wearing the bladed gauntlets and so forth and actually fought without them. He only suited up when battling in public. His most epic battle occurred out of costume.

The Fred Wolf show had him in costume more or less 24/7 but then it was supposed to be goofy and unrealistic.

I'd also point out that some bladed gauntlets wouldn't exactly hinder stealth too much anyway. The cape perhaps but then it's not a standard on all versions and barring the Fred Wolf show doesn't wear it in battle.

If we're talking strictly about the Platinum Dunes version then people have expressed how silly it is including the person who originally described the look of the action figure and many have commented on how his look seems very impractical and the absurdity of a bladed cape. :whatever:

It's probably less of deal than the look of the turtles because his role in the movies has never been action heavy. He's always been a figure in his base until the end and the look does lend itself to a "final boss" character. There's also the belief that it will be mechanical like Iron Man's armor or mystical in origin.

Ever stop and wonder why just about every single mutant villain from the original and modern cartoon has some sort of attire on? From army pants to vests to hillbilly garb...why is it people are only now stopping short when the same is applied to the turtles?

Hmmm you're talking strictly about the Fred Wolf cartoon, right?

Again it was supposed to be silly and nonsensical and most were designs as toys first but even then most of examples from that show actually make some sense.

A lot of them were humans that became mutants ala Bebop and Rocksteady were it would make sense for them to still wear clothes or in the case of animals that became mutants like Groundchuck and Dirtbag or Mondo Gecko were given clothing to wear by their human masters.

Pretty much any other version there isn't a whole lot of mutants and those there are either don't wear any or around the same amount of clothing the turtles do.

As always I don't think fans really know what their issue is, only that things are different and it's jarring and or bothersome. The only real inconsistencies are in the arguments imo.

Isn't that good enough reason to be bothered?

If we follow a franchise we want to see it onscreen. We appreciate that that certain things might not work in a live action but the look of the turtles has worked well in live action there is no reason to change it so drastically.

Look at The Amazing Spider-Man, they changed his regular for no reason other than to signal it was a new version and slightly edgier. Even then it was still rather minor tweaks but since a lot of people didn't think it hit the eye right it was changed to something very much like the original costume for the sequel. Not just for a sense of tradition, it just works better.

Here it's just one questionable change of many very important ones like this Eric Sachs nonsense.

I find it interesting that no one is complaining about Splinter being dressed up in the Bay version, given he's just a rat.

In the Fred Wolf and the current Nickelodeon show he was a human that became a mutant rat so it's understandable.

In every other continuity I accept it's a conceit just like the turtles masks but it's a simple and effective way of conveying that he's a wise sensei. Put him in a suit and tie - it'd be a different story.
 
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^^^

The justifications for it don't really pan out. Let's go through the various defenses people have for the turtles wearing these clothes and accessories...

It's realistic

The standard argument is that real life turtles are cold blooded and thus they should clothe themselves to keep warm.

Putting aside there's nothing in the established canon of the franchise that says that mutant turtles are cold blooded, real life cold blooded creatures get along without clothes.

Also if this was in the minds of the designers then the turtles should be covered head to toe in clothes not wearing just pants and loin clothes. What protection from the temperature would those provide?

It's battle ready

The actual designer commented that these designs are to symbolize the characters ninja backgrounds and that are battle ready warriors.

That defense doesn't hold much water when only two of the turtles (Leo and Don) are wearing ninja...or rather samurai inspired gear and look ready for battle.

Also I'm not sure just how ready for battle Don and Leo really are? How stealthy can turtles really be with all that extra gear clicking and clacking. I suppose being cgi it may not be an issue but if say the Foot raid the lair (something which based on set pics seems to happen) will Leo and Don ask the Foot Ninja to wait while one puts on his armor and the other gets his proton pack?

They are just expressing their individuality like real people do

Now this is one that holds a little bit of water, I guess the question is would the turtles be compelled to wear clothes like humans or knowing they aren't human find it unnecessary, it's not like they have human anatomies with visible genitalia to cover up etc.

I see both sides of the argument and it has been shown in several incarnations from the Mirage comics to the Fred Wolf show to 2K3 series that the turtles aren't against a bit of human clothing such as a T-Shirt, a baseball cap out of a sense of whimsy or occasion.

Even if you think it should be the norm I'd argue they way they've gone about this is stupid. Unless you define yourself as part of a particular group like say a goth most people wear similar clothes, the variation is on a persons whims. A sportier person might wear a polo shirt and a smarter person might wear a button shirt, someone who is a big fan of particular band might wear a T-Shirt displaying that but most people don't express themselves in such overblown and drastically different ways. A bit of subtlety would have been better.

Now the defense of the original designs and variations on it make much more sense.

Obviously there's no reason the turtles should wear bandannas. It's always been a conceit but an acceptable one as it very simply but very effectively conveys that they are ninjas.

Their belts serve a practical purpose holding their main weapons as well as stuff like shuriken and climbing claws etc.

I would argue the simple look works better to convey they battle ready warriors as that's all they need. They can occasionally get extra gear for very specific missions but 90% of the time they have everything they need right there.

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Maybe them with all the "Stupid stuff" is just their final battle form? Like Iron Man has his different armours in the movies right, these TMNT could have different variations of their "armours". For all we know, they could be just badanas for 99% of the movie
 
Maybe them with all the "Stupid stuff" is just their final battle form? Like Iron Man has his different armours in the movies right, these TMNT could have different variations of their "armours". For all we know, they could be just badanas for 99% of the movie

That's kind of unlikely when 100% of the action figures and such are designed that way. while they may have other outfits in the film, this is very likely to be how they look for the majority of the movie.
 
So. Has the trailer leaked yet!!?... No, huh. Oh well.
 
Early March he said....you can bank on it he said. I'm still waiting on those magazine covers someone said would be coming out early this month. I guess they were wrong...typical around here. Oh well, what's another 2 weeks supposedly gonna hurt? That is if that producer guy was actually right when he said April 4th for the teaser trailer
 
I've seen the cold blooded argument quite a lot and you're correct that it doesn't make any sense but people are using that to justify these designs.
Well I haven't seen it here(at all), it's a loin cloth warrior approach, if anything they are showing as much skin as gladiators and gladiators didn't dress they way they did for the cold weather. When it comes to realism in regards to their accessories/attire, it's a simple matter of how is this any less real than what they had on in the original film? Are shoulder pads, leather wraps around the arms soles on their feet a step towards internal logic or is it literally a step away. I'd argue the former.
As for the loin cloths, like gargoyes, I rather like the idea that intelligent anthropomorphic characters make an attempt to make themselves decent. I find it adds "realism" if you will.

I can see Leo not wearing the full armor and Don not having his proton pack and perhaps Mike and Raph not having the leather straps (that seem to serve no purpose other than looking kewel) in scenes were they chillin' in the lair but what we've seen is the equivalent of their super hero costume so yes the whole idea that the turtles are dressed for battle doesn't fly at all.
Not sure what you are saying here. First you say that you don't think they will be wearing back packs and such while chilling in their lair(makes sense), then you say that the idea that they are dressed for battle doesn't fly? Which is it? Do you think they will be dressed like this the entire film? If not, what's the issue?

Secondly, like Leo during that city fall story, it's not so far fetched or beyond fanboy's ability to accept.
Do you mean Shredder in general or this Shredder in particular?

Shredder in original Mirage comics spent quite a lot of time not wearing the bladed gauntlets and so forth and actually fought without them. He only suited up when battling in public. His most epic battle occurred out of costume.
The Fred Wolf show had him in costume more or less 24/7 but then it was supposed to be goofy and unrealistic.
I mean the fact that shredder is a practicing ninja and he wears clanky armor. If you can accept that he does it in any capacity 'and it still makes sense' you shouldn't have a double standard when the turtles do the same.

Shredder wears his costume "24/7" in the new series as well, I wouldn't go so far as to say the nick show is 'supposed to be goofy. I digress, since when has nonsense ever stopped fans/purists from wanting their source material on the screen...There are fans that still want megatron turning into a gun.
Isn't that good enough reason to be bothered?
Almost never. As has been proven time and again.
Here it's just one questionable change of many very important ones like this Eric Sachs nonsense.
Like I said, fans do this time and and again and only history will show if they were right. The batman films are a master class on this, especially when it comes to character origins.
In the Fred Wolf and the current Nickelodeon show he was a human that became a mutant rat so it's understandable.
Ever stop to wonder why we humans even wear clothes? I mean why did we even start wearing them, in the summer that is? Why, in the original 'planet of the apes' films, are all wearing clothes and such? Apply your answer for that to the turtles, themselves intelligent individuals of 16 or so years...This is literally what the General Audience will do. Fans of course have other plans.
In every other continuity I accept it's a conceit just like the turtles masks but it's a simple and effective way of conveying that he's a wise sensei. Put him in a suit and tie - it'd be a different story.
Apply this very same thing to all the other characters in the story and we'll be on our way. Story telling and characterization.

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Well I haven't seen it here(at all), it's a loin cloth warrior approach, if anything they are showing as much skin as gladiators and gladiators didn't dress they way they did for the cold weather.

Well Raph's get up has been likened to a gladiator by fans and I'd say that's accurate but doesn't that devalue the designers defense that these designs are to reflect their ninja background.

It also devalues the other defense quoted by people who defend these designs that the turtles are influenced by human society in how they dress. You can get a way with that with Michelangelo even if "look" is very dated but the others particularly Raphael don't seem to be influenced by human society they grew up next to unless there are many guys in loin cloths walking around NYC that I am unaware of.

When it comes to realism in regards to their accessories/attire, it's a simple matter of how is this any less real than what they had on in the original film? Are shoulder pads, leather wraps around the arms soles on their feet a step towards internal logic or is it literally a step away. I'd argue the former.

Like the bandannas the pads are a conceit, I freely admit that. A relatively small one.

If you took the pads are wrist straps away I don't think many fans would mind. On the flip side I don't think many mind them having straps around their feet, these are minor things that I don't think many have much of an issue with either. (Although I don't know why Don has colored ones his shoulders and why Raph has one leg covered and the other not - stuff like that is were it gets stupid)

As for the loin cloths, like gargoyes, I rather like the idea that intelligent anthropomorphic characters make an attempt to make themselves decent. I find it adds "realism" if you will.

Surely the turtles are already decent. They have no visible genitalia or other body parts considered shameful to cover up.

If it's simply that you feel they would look at humans above and feel the need conform to how they dress (not something I agree the characters should feel) then why not go the whole way with tops, jackets, proper shoes and socks etc?

Not sure what you are saying here. First you say that you don't think they will be wearing back packs and such while chilling in their lair(makes sense), then you say that the idea that they are dressed for battle doesn't fly? Which is it? Do you think they will be dressed like this the entire film? If not, what's the issue?

I'll try and explain better.

If you look at the maquettes compared to everything else we've seen in regards to the turtle designs they are clearly the same but the former are missing.

I'm guessing that in scenes in the lair and similar settings the turtles will of course be clothed but missing those few extra elements. The equivalent of Thor not having his cape in the helicarrier scenes in The Avengers movie.

Secondly, like Leo during that city fall story, it's not so far fetched or beyond fanboy's ability to accept.

An arc were Leo is brainwashed into becoming a Foot Ninja and was provided with the equivalent of a uniform. That had a point to it, a concrete logic.

Not to mention that it is nowhere near as overly complicated as these movie designs hence why fans actually liked that look.

I mean the fact that shredder is a practicing ninja and he wears clanky armor. If you can accept that he does it in any capacity 'and it still makes sense' you shouldn't have a double standard when the turtles do the same.

Most versions of TMNT Shredder doesn't actually wear armor. He wears a cloth costume resembling a ninja gi which he sometimes adds a helmet and bladed gauntlets so it's not like it detracts from his ability to be stealthy.

Shredder wears his costume "24/7" in the new series as well, I wouldn't go so far as to say the nick show is 'supposed to be goofy. I digress, since when has nonsense ever stopped fans/purists from wanting their source material on the screen...There are fans that still want megatron turning into a gun.

Well I think the new series being very anime inspired is a mix is deliberately goofy and serious but I digress.

The trend of Shredder wearing full on armor started with the 2003 series were again he only wore it during the really epic battles. I think that's why the full on armor is more accepted as it lends itself to an big final battle were the bad guy conveying strength is more important and stealth is not exactly a priority.

Like I said, fans do this time and and again and only history will show if they were right. The batman films are a master class on this, especially when it comes to character origins.

The current success of the Nolan Batman movies and indeed the current crop of super hero movies I believe in part is due to them being true to the source material. Some liberties are taken yes but for the most part Nolan draws a lot from the comics as do the Marvel movies.

Ever stop to wonder why we humans even wear clothes? I mean why did we even start wearing them, in the summer that is? Why, in the original 'planet of the apes' films, are all wearing clothes and such? Apply your answer for that to the turtles, themselves intelligent individuals of 16 or so years...This is literally what the General Audience will do. Fans of course have other plans.

I'm not so sure that's true really. I'm sure the general audience will be somewhat divided on the issue. Comparing it to characters in an anthropomorphised version of ancient Japan is a bit different than characters in a real world setting were they are separate to society.

Also remember it isn't just the idea that the turtles will be wearing it's these specific clothes that are an issue.

Also it's not just even that it's the whole hulking turtles design. The whole thing is reminiscent of what old men think kids find cool. The kind of thinking The Simpsons parodied back in the day with Poochie the Dog (jeans and shades hmm) and reminiscent of what everyone on Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation did with their designs (hulking turtles with individualized looks hmm) and we all know how that turned out.

Now I'm sure that if the majority of the rest of the movie is good then I'm sure most people wont mind so much but then....I think you know were I'm heading with this.


Early March he said....you can bank on it he said. I'm still waiting on those magazine covers someone said would be coming out early this month. I guess they were wrong...typical around here. Oh well, what's another 2 weeks supposedly gonna hurt? That is if that producer guy was actually right when he said April 4th for the teaser trailer

He's taken his post off facebook so I'm guessing we shouldn't take for granted we'll be getting then either.
 
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Itd be a HUGE mistake to not put that trailer in front of CA: TWS and TASM2 because two movies are going to get A LOT of attention. Hell even throw it in front of godzilla. I think whatever magazine is next month will feature TMNT, just a hunch.
 
It also devalues the other defense quoted by people who defend these designs that the turtles are influenced by human society in how they dress. You can get a way with that with Michelangelo even if "look" is very dated but the others particularly Raphael don't seem to be influenced by human society they grew up next to unless there are many guys in loin cloths walking around NYC that I am unaware of.
Growing up and being influenced by a society doesn't mean one is relegated to simply what one see's on wall street or 47th street. It could mean what you see in the cultures movies or their story books, it's about their champions and their heroes. It means Captain America or capes like superman or king arthur cause it's synonymous with that culture. A coat like the terminator....I digress. It's all speculation at this point, we'll find out why they are dressed the way the are when the film drops.

Surely the turtles are already decent. They have no visible genitalia or other body parts considered shameful to cover up.
The turtles walk around naked as do all animals, we've just been conditioned to look past it. These turtles seem to have human teeth...same the sense to cover their genitals. Like splinter, there's no reason not to cover their shame. Not like it takes anything away. Raph walking around newyork street with megan fox butt naked in a realistic live action film. I doubt we'll be seeing much more of that on hairless creatures post avatar. Like avatar it simply adds dignity imo.

An arc were Leo is brainwashed into becoming a Foot Ninja and was provided with the equivalent of a uniform. That had a point to it, a concrete logic.

Not to mention that it is nowhere near as overly complicated as these movie designs hence why fans actually liked that look.
The story had to be seen before the design could be properly analyzed and accepted by fans, I'm sure you know where I'm going with this.
I have a feeling fans liked it for reasons beyond how complicated it wasn't. But that's me.

Most versions of TMNT Shredder doesn't actually wear armor. He wears a cloth costume resembling a ninja gi which he sometimes adds a helmet and bladed gauntlets so it's not like it detracts from his ability to be stealthy.
Unfortunately, I'm talking about the movie and animated
incarnations of which their hasn't been a fan outcry against. Fans shouldn't start now.

The current success of the Nolan Batman movies and indeed the current crop of super hero movies I believe in part is due to them being true to the source material. Some liberties are taken yes but for the most part Nolan draws a lot from the comics as do the Marvel movies.
Like I said, they make big and small changes at their discretion. For example all this talk of changing the race and origin of the villain. Really take a look at the villains(race wise) in the Batman and the recent ironman film...
It happens, people move on. Easy to cry fowl before hand.

I'm not so sure that's true really. I'm sure the general audience will be somewhat divided on the issue. Comparing it to characters in an anthropomorphised version of ancient Japan is a bit different than characters in a real world setting were they are separate to society.

Also remember it isn't just the idea that the turtles will be wearing it's these specific clothes that are an issue.
I don't think what their wearing will be all that controversial. It's not like raph is walking around in a suit and tie. Just various wraps(literally). Have you seen the leo maquette? I'm sure the world will keep spinning. Mike might turn some heads but it goes along way to infuse the character. Not like they just gave the silver surfer clothes.
As for the Usagi characters, last I checked that was the turtles universe, the point was, clothes can and do make sense when we aren't biased against them. Better example would be the Blacksad comic.

Also it's not just even that it's the whole hulking turtles design. The whole thing is reminiscent of what old men think kids find cool. The kind of thinking The Simpsons parodied back in the day with Poochie the Dog (jeans and shades hmm) and reminiscent of what everyone on Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation did with their designs (hulking turtles with individualized looks hmm) and we all know how that turned out.
You correlating this stuff to a failed tv show is your prerogative. It would be like me saying: 'remember what happened the last time they made a live action turtle movie without clothes on? That's what happens when you do it that way...'
All I see here is a new direction here, prone to any list of receptions. Fans are reacting in the way they often do when they see change for the first time(see superman underwear). The GA will give their opinion soon enough.
 
Itd be a HUGE mistake to not put that trailer in front of CA: TWS and TASM2 because two movies are going to get A LOT of attention. Hell even throw it in front of godzilla. I think whatever magazine is next month will feature TMNT, just a hunch.

It will play in front of both those films and various others this summer.
At which point it's notoriety will be fairly substantial imo.
 
It will play in front of both those films and various others this summer.
At which point it's notoriety will be fairly substantial imo.

Agreed. We would only be so lucky as to get it online a week early.
 
I'm mostly negatively sounding around this project, because I wanna set the bar extremely low, on purpose. Aside from the design of the turtles (and Shredder, daaamn!) everything surrounding this project has made me shake my head... But when it all comes down to it, I want nothing more than for this particular film to surprise and truly succeed.

I've never anticipated seeing a trailer for a film this much. Literally nothing has been seen from the movie. Not even any press seems to have seen anything. Nothing (even description-wise) has been leaked on the web. Nadda.

We know this trailer could, in theory, pop up any minute now. And when it does, that will be the very first time the movie-going-world will actually see something from the reborn turtles movie - That it's actually coming (the largest portion of the world don't know about it, at_all). Let's just keep fingers crossed that the teaser/trailer delivers in fashion!
 
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I think without a doubt we're going to get a trailer that does a really great job of presenting this film as an action movie, but selling us all on these new designs, military Foot, white Shredder and Splinter, all that, is another thing. That's a lot of changes to drop on people, so they'll probably be doing their best to avoid spending too much time focusing on those unfamiliar aspects.

Honestly, as much as the trailer description from 4chan seems to detailed to be true, it's pretty much exactly what I'm expecting. I wouldn't be too shocked if it turned out to be true.
 
So I guess we should expect this trailer next week before Captain America comes out ?
 
I think "expect" is a strong word, but it's certainly the most likely date we have to look forward to at this point.
 
Days Of Future Past Trailer 2 was just confirmed for next week. Come on Paramount give us TMNT
 
before the trailer is out they will show some promo images. until then no trailer IMO.

we need at least a teaser poster.
 
at this point the trailer should be like a 3rd trailer if they give us just shadows
I'll be very dissappointed
 
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