New Mutants New Mutants News and Discussion - Part 2

[slugzilla]

Y'all are so wacky! Only a matter of time until all is revealed...

 

[slugzilla]

Here's a question for the mods: Is it cool to post complete spoilers for unreleased movies?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Y'all are so wacky! Only a matter of time until all is revealed...

If that's true then I don't know what Comcast are bidding for then.

You make it all sound pointless since the deal is apparently done and sealed right now.

 

[C. Lee]

Here's a question for the mods: Is it cool to post complete spoilers for unreleased movies?

Depends on your definition of cool.

Anyone can post a spoiler as long as it is put in spoiler tags.

If someone posts what they say is a spoiler....and it turns out to be false....they will be banned for trolling.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Please keep things in spoiler tags, though.

 

[Drexelhand]

Dude just post the spoilers already. CineEurope again showed the film on Fox's slate, Comcast is going to **** up the Disney merger. Do it.

 

[BWX]

Judge approved. Looks like Comcast will be making that bid.

I just heard the news. guess Comcast will announce their bid today.


things are looking good.

 

[Micromind]

Now Comcast can bid for Fox without having to worry about Anti-trust legal cases.

 

[slugzilla]

OK anyone that wants to, just ask a question about the movie, anything you want to know about and I'll answer it. Nothing's off the table, please just keep your questions civil and straight forward. I'll be here for a few hours.

 

[BWX]

Now Comcast can bid for Fox without having to worry about Anti-trust legal cases.

Comcast apparently is far richer than disney. so I can assume 60 billion is their starting bid.



I hope Comcast makes the argument of disney already owning too much and ruining it.

 

[Drexelhand]

All right, cause I like to play too:

1) You said X23 was going to be interjected into the film. How would this have worked, how is it being worked. Would it have addressed Logan at all?

2) New Mutants -> X-Force was one of the things in the comics. You mentioned the actors in this film were being cast into that as an apology. Did the actors sign a deal for multiple films?

3) Josh Zetumer was mentioned as a writer on this project before it was rewritten. He also wrote Gambit. Was that to create a connection between films or did he get one gig because he impressed as the other?

4) What happened with the Demon Bear plot, did they do away with it or what?

Well, that's all for now, I guess. You may be real, you may not, but you do make posts that amount for good discussion .

 

[slugzilla]

All right, cause I like to play too:

1) You said X23 was going to be interjected into the film. How would this have worked, how is it being worked. Would it have addressed Logan at all?

2) New Mutants -> X-Force was one of the things in the comics. You mentioned the actors in this film were being cast into that as an apology. Did the actors sign a deal for multiple films?

3) Josh Zetumer was mentioned as a writer on this project before it was rewritten. He also wrote Gambit. Was that to create a connection between films or did he get one gig because he impressed as the other?

4) What happened with the Demon Bear plot, did they do away with it or what?

Well, that's all for now, I guess. You may be real, you may not, but you do make posts that amount for good discussion .

You don't seem to like me very much lol.

Spoiler

1.
X-23 was going to be another mutant being held at the government facility just like the others. Her memory essentially blank, Sam was to be like a protective older brother to her who sees her as this harmless poor little girl without realizing she was perhaps the most dangerous of them all. She was to have this implied crush on Sam that she didn't really understand really well, and he was the only one she got along with. Still in the most recent script, but nothing has been shot with her yet.

2.
The actors being put into X-Force as an apology of sorts was based on some rumors we were hearing and were speculating about. As far as we knew the actors had signed on for a multi picture deal, but as things progressed it became clear there wasn't going to be a sequel.

3.
I don't know. I couldn't even name all of the writers that were brought in to try and fix this thing. All I know is there were a lot of them.

4.
The Demon Bear plot was initially quite significant, but as the movie went along its role became smaller and smaller. Its in there, but just barely. The government is essentially experimenting on the group and the Demon Bear emerges after Dani is injected with an extremely high dose of an unidentified drug. The Bear kills a bunch of masked soldiers and is defeated when Rahne realizes for no clear reason that The demon Bear can't hurt you if you don't fear it. Really stupid stuff.

 

[Drexelhand]

You don't seem to like me very much lol.

Spoiler

1.
X-23 was going to be another mutant being held at the government facility just like the others. Her memory essentially blank, Sam was to be like a protective older brother to her who sees her as this harmless poor little girl without realizing she was perhaps the most dangerous of them all. She was to have this implied crush on Sam that she didn't really understand really well, and he was the only one she got along with. Still in the most recent script, but nothing has been shot with her yet.

2.
The actors being put into X-Force as an apology of sorts was based on some rumors we were hearing and were speculating about.

3.
I don't know. I couldn't even name all of the writers that were brought in to try and fix this thing. All I know is there were a lot of them.

4.
The Demon Bear plot was initially quite significant, but as the movie went along its role became smaller and smaller. Its in there, but just barely. The government is essentially experimenting on the group and the Demon Bear emerges after Dani is injected with an extremely high dose of an unidentified drug. The Bear kills a bunch of masked soldiers and is defeated when Rahne realizes for no clear reason that The demon Bear can't hurt you if you don't fear it. Really stupid stuff.

I don't know you, I'm mostly indifferent but I dislike how some users have used your posts as an excuse to post this smilie but I don't dislike you. Either way, your posts propel discussion so I'll keep up with them. I guess I'll ask more:

1) Josh Boone claimed to have gotten hired onto the film after pitching a ComicArt book he made with his writing partner to Kinberg? Is that true, because if it is, it sounds hilarious.

2) Was the movie being planned on being written as a post-Logan/post-Deadpool affair where all the mutants are practically gone, or was that only added in after those films' massive successes?

3) You mentioned Colossus was recently in the film? Was that for like a post-credits stinger?

4) What do you think will happen to the film if Comcast pushes the bid to a point where they can sustain the debt the merger will bring but Disney can't? Are you guys given an opportunity to bring things back to where you want them to be?

5) You said you heard rumors that Dark Phoenix was really good, is that still true?

 

[StrangerThings]

OK anyone that wants to, just ask a question about the movie, anything you want to know about and I'll answer it. Nothing's off the table, please just keep your questions civil and straight forward. I'll be here for a few hours.

You are the best!

1) How big is Charlie Heaton’s role in the film? Is he seen as the leader of the group or more of the protector in the group? Which of the characters does he interact with the most?

2) Anya Taylor-Joy posted a pic from the movie Titanic (a pic of Jack and Rose in the freezing water) on her IG and said that it was related to what she had to film that day. How does that fit into the movie?

3) Do we get to see Limbo at all? Is Magik paired with Roberto a lot in the film? Henry and Anya posted each other often during filming.

4) How are the accents? Charlie posted his southern accent, did they keep it in the film? Does Magik have a Russian accent and Rahne have a Scottish accent?

5) What is with the Lockheed puppet that Anya has in the AC/DC pic? Is he actually in the film like he was in the animated story boards?

6) How was Blu’s performance?

 

[psylockolussus]

How is it compare to X3, Apocalypse and Origins? Is it Fan4stic levels of bad?

 

[slugzilla]

I don't know you, I'm mostly indifferent but I dislike how some users have used your posts as an excuse to post this smilie but I don't dislike you. Either way, your posts propel discussion so I'll keep up with them. I guess I'll ask more:

1) Josh Boone claimed to have gotten hired onto the film after pitching a ComicArt book he made with his writing partner to Kinberg? Is that true, because if it is, it sounds hilarious.

2) Was the movie being planned on being written as a post-Logan/post-Deadpool affair where all the mutants are practically gone, or was that only added in after those films' massive successes?

3) You mentioned Colossus was recently in the film? Was that for like a post-credits stinger?

4) What do you think will happen to the film if Comcast pushes the bid to a point where they can sustain the debt the merger will bring but Disney can't? Are you guys given an opportunity to bring things back to where you want them to be?

5) You said you heard rumors that Dark Phoenix was really good, is that still true?

Fair enough my friend.

Spoiler

1.
Unfortunately, I don't have any information regarding that story. Everything I've heard about JB's hiring I've related in previous posts. He came on board well after production had started and changed a lot of things that made the New Mutants the New Mutants.

2.
It was originally going to be set in what was basically it's own X-Verse, And would've featured some of the things people associate with The X-Men, like the X-Mansion, The blackbird, some very brief X-men cameos and of course Professor X, whose face's would never actually be seen. Only shown from behind and various other angles. In the cut I saw the X-Men are mentioned and implied to be alive somewhere.

3. After all of the drama with Boone on set, the rumors we were hearing about disagreements with execs bts, and the general dislike of what Boone presented to the higher ups, other individuals took control of the project in an attempt to fix what was seen as a disaster. And one of the decisions that was made was to try and incorporate some prominent X-Characters into the movie ie Colossus & X-23. Colossus was to appear several times in the movie searching for his sister & ultimately reunited with her towards the end of the movie. To the best of my knowledge nothing has been shot that involves Colossus as of now.

4.
I'm not sure what's going on with Comcast, but people representing Disney are already playing a role at this studio. They don't walk up to you and say "Hi, I represent Disney", or anything like that, but we know who they are and what they're up to. When discussed in private, the people I know, some of whom are much higher on the food chain than me tell me it's a done deal period.

5.
Oh hell no! I have since seen it. It is in my opinion the worst X-Men movie or spin-off ever.

 

[psylockolussus]

That's not eXciting to heae. But thanks for the heads up.

 

[Drexelhand]

Fair enough my friend.

Spoiler

1.
Unfortunately, I don't have any information regarding that story. Everything I've heard about JB's hiring I've related in previous posts. He came on board well after production had started and changed a lot of things that made the New Mutants the New Mutants.

2.
It was originally going to be set in what was basically it's own X-Verse, And would've featured some of the things people associate with The X-Men, like the X-Mansion, The blackbird, some very brief X-men cameos and of course Professor X, whose face's would never actually be seen. Only shown from behind and various other angles. In the cut I saw the X-Men are mentioned and implied to be alive somewhere.

3. After all of the drama with Boone on set, the rumors we were hearing about disagreements with execs bts, and the general dislike of what Boone presented to the higher ups, other individuals took control of the project in an attempt to fix what was seen as a disaster. And one of the decisions that was made was to try and incorporate some prominent X-Characters into the movie ie Colossus & X-23. Colossus was to appear several times in the movie searching for his sister & ultimately reunited with her towards the end of the movie. To the best of my knowledge nothing has been shot that involves Colossus as of now.

4.
I'm not sure what's going on with Comcast, but people representing Disney are already playing a role at this studio. They don't walk up to you and say "Hi, I represent Disney", or anything like that, but we know who they are and what they're up to. When discussed in private, the people I know, some of whom are much higher on the food chain than me tell me it's a done deal period.

5.
Oh hell no! I have since seen it. It is in my opinion the worst X-Men movie or spin-off ever.

Oh man oh man, your answer (.5) actually made me laugh. So, worse than this? Can you actually just talk about that noise for a second? I mean, it is Kinberg, but hey.

 

[psylockolussus]

Kinberg strikes again! Lmao. Fox is so messed up. His track record was already off in the first place.

 

[slugzilla]

You are the best!

1) How big is Charlie Heaton’s role in the film? Is he seen as the leader of the group or more of the protector in the group? Which of the characters does he interact with the most?

2) Anya Taylor-Joy posted a pic from the movie Titanic (a pic of Jack and Rose in the freezing water) on her IG and said that it was related to what she had to film that day. How does that fit into the movie?

3) Do we get to see Limbo at all? Is Magik paired with Roberto a lot in the film? Henry and Anya posted each other often during filming.

4) How are the accents? Charlie posted his southern accent, did they keep it in the film? Does Magik have a Russian accent and Rahne have a Scottish accent?

5) What is with the Lockheed puppet that Anya has in the AC/DC pic? Is he actually in the film like he was in the animated story boards?

6) How was Blu’s performance?

Thanks for the compliment!

Spoiler

1.
About the same size as the role of the others, one of the few things JB did well was giving everyone about equal time to shine. There's really no leader of the team. As far as who he interacts with most, I would say Roberto & Illyana.

2.
I'm not really sure what she was referring to.

3.
No limbo, and yes Roberto & Magik have a good bit of screen time together. Roberto has a crush on her and she don't mind it. Henry & Anya spent QUITE a bit of time together both on and off set. Or so I hear....

4.
The accents are fantastic. The actors all did a fantastic job on those. They all have the appropriate accents, some toned down a little, but they're all there.

5.
Sadly the Lockheed stuffed animal was just that. Only a stuffed animal. You'd think that with a large portion of the film focusing on the cast being put into frightening situations by a semi conscious Dani, they'd actually do something like make the puppet come to life or something, but nope...

6.
Blu's performance was phenomenal, especially considering how this was really her first big picture. She did a great job. I think she has a big future ahead of her.

 

[slugzilla]

How is it compare to X3, Apocalypse and Origins? Is it Fan4stic levels of bad?

This is a hard one...

Spoiler

It's hard to compare this to the other films you mentioned because the actors all did such a fantastic job and it feels like they held down by the ever changing script & the director, and they really did the best possible with what they had to work with. But with that said, judging the movie as a whole I would say it isn't even as good as Fant4stic. Very sad situation.

 

[BWX]

You don't seem to like me very much lol.

Spoiler

1.
X-23 was going to be another mutant being held at the government facility just like the others. Her memory essentially blank, Sam was to be like a protective older brother to her who sees her as this harmless poor little girl without realizing she was perhaps the most dangerous of them all. She was to have this implied crush on Sam that she didn't really understand really well, and he was the only one she got along with. Still in the most recent script, but nothing has been shot with her yet.

2.
The actors being put into X-Force as an apology of sorts was based on some rumors we were hearing and were speculating about. As far as we knew the actors had signed on for a multi picture deal, but as things progressed it became clear there wasn't going to be a sequel.

3.
I don't know. I couldn't even name all of the writers that were brought in to try and fix this thing. All I know is there were a lot of them.

4.
The Demon Bear plot was initially quite significant, but as the movie went along its role became smaller and smaller. Its in there, but just barely. The government is essentially experimenting on the group and the Demon Bear emerges after Dani is injected with an extremely high dose of an unidentified drug. The Bear kills a bunch of masked soldiers and is defeated when Rahne realizes for no clear reason that The demon Bear can't hurt you if you don't fear it. Really stupid stuff.

And see why I told another user yesterday that I don't trust early reactions and test screenings. its like playing politics.


The last part of 4, it looks like you got compromised in your review..conflict of interests seem to have gotten to you with the really... stupid stuff statement. usually the outcome for many MCU fans take for non mcu marvel films, so I can only imagine the true take of the film is superior to what you are saying. Usually if an mcu fan dislike something or calls it stupid , you know is good.lol. So thanks for the heads up that this could actually be a legit good movie that can push more boundaries for comic films after Logan and Deadpool than the cgi formulaic stuff we have now that is actually getting kind of stupid realistically.

Most importantly, the part of...getting obvious there won't be a sequel, that is kind of weird, though would be a clear confirmation that the disney suppose deal interfered. since the director has said multiple times it is meant to be a trilogy.
I guess Comcast is truly the saving grace now for a real new mutants movie that can get the tone and context of the story right. Make it so Comcast.

 

[slugzilla]

And see why I told another user yesterday that I don't trust early reactions and test screenings. its like playing politics.


The last part of 4, it looks like you got compromised in your review..conflict of interests seem to have gotten to you with the really... stupid stuff statement. usually the outcome for many MCU fans take for non mcu marvel films, so I can only imagine the true take of the film is superior to what you are saying. Usually if an mcu fan dislike something or calls it stupid , you know is good.lol. So thanks for the heads up that this could actually be a legit good movie that can push more boundaries for comic films after Logan and Deadpool than the cgi formulaic stuff we have now that is actually getting kind of stupid realistically.

Most importantly, the part of...getting obvious there won't be a sequel, that is kind of weird, though would be a clear confirmation that the disney suppose deal interfered. since the director has multiple times it is meant to be a trilogy.
I guess Comcast is truly the saving grace now for a real new mutants movie that can get the tone and context of the story right. Make it so Comcast.

To be fair I'm a fan of both the Fox X-films & Disney Mcu films. For the most part I have enjoyed the movies that both have put out. Heck it was the first X-Men movie that inspired me to get into my profession. Both Studios have put out some superhero movies that I definitely did not enjoy.

Frankly I think all of this "Fox Vs Mcu" "which is better" stuff is silly. It's adolescent, comparable to the silliness of the old Twilight movies "Team Edward Vs Team
Jacob" ridiculousness. So please, do me the courtesy of not assuming that my opinions are skewed towards one side of an outlandish "fan feud" that I do not in any way subscribe to or participate in.

Thank you.

 

[BWX]

To be fair I'm a fan of both the Fox X-films & Disney Mcu films. For the most part I have enjoyed the movies that both have put out. Heck it was the first X-Men movie that inspired me to get into my profession. Both Studios have put out some superhero movies that I definitely did not enjoy.

Frankly I think all of this "Fox Vs Mcu" "which is better" stuff is silly. It's adolescent, comparable to the silliness of the old Twilight movies "Team Edward Vs Team
Jacob" ridiculousness. So please, do me the courtesy of not assuming that my opinions are skewed towards one side of an outlandish "fan feud" that I do not in any way subscribe to or participate in.

Thank you.

And sadly you still got compromised, despite your attempts to say you don't subscribe or participate in things.want to know how? this rumour about an Enteral movie is the next marvel movie, you have already declared it good and the movie is not even in pre production yet.lol.

you say your are a fan of both but that seems odd to me because even xmen fans at their worst wont compare anything xmen related film to the last fantastic 4 movie, if you liked both equally as you said I think you wont have tried too hard to play down new mutants to the point of fantastic 4 level. that became too compromising.

thanks again, you really did just convince me this movie could be excellent for that alone. also, I wont really compare things to twilight. it is fine to compare marvel to twilight. if you want to compare xmen to a vampire series. the lost boys or buffy are better comparisons. Hopefully there is no feud or won't be any when comcast buys fox and xmen remains separate.. my guess..you are in support of disney , which again makes your take on new mutants more compromising.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well if the fox/Disney deal is already complete that means that the moment Comcast put in their bid it should be automically rejected by default. Right?

Even if Murdock says he isn't committed to Disney it doesn't matter since the deal is done. Well either that or alot of Disney execs could end up walking home with their tails between their legs if they really did play in the FOX playground abit prematurely.

So yeah either someone will pop up and say sorry Comcast but the deal is already complete and we just kept it a secret... Or things are about that kinda interesting