BvS New Positivity Thread (READ THE FIRST POST!) - Part 1

[OutOfBoose]

I'm wondering if the Batman/Superman fight is longer too?

I think Zack said they had to cut a couple of violent shots from the fight.

 

[AnneFan]

I think Zack said they had to cut a couple of violent shots from the fight.

I'm a Bat fan mainly, but I'm hoping Supes gets a few more shots in somewhere.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I'm a Bat fan mainly, but I'm hoping Supes gets a few more shots in somewhere.

Bruce remains untouched, outside his damaged helmet, so I don't think Superman did anything to him. I think, there was a brief shot in the trailer or a TV-spot, where Superman has blood on his face. I don't remember seeing it in the theater. And I watched the film 4 times.

 

[AnneFan]

Yeah. I'm not sure how the fight itself could be expanded, to be honest. It seemed quite contained. Maybe just adding blood, as you say.

 

[Jaxon]

I'm a Bat fan mainly, but I'm hoping Supes gets a few more shots in somewhere.

I can't see how he gets any blows in otherwise it's game over if even one lands.
Only way is he does a few pushes here and there like what he did.

 

[Jaxon]

WW entry in BvS, love that sound effect when she blocks

http://www.geekfeed.com/wonder-woman-best-batman-v-superman/

 

[baby]

Hi! I love this film so much! I've lurking here since its been anounced and post a little.
I can't understand why it got such hate, seriously, never will.
I loved MoS, that movie made me care about Superman (always loved Batman, and thought Superman was meh) and I think Supes is so well done, he's so good as a person, I mean he inspires Bats and WW to come back to their hero actions again, inspires humanity (the citizens) AND proves to Lex his good (and will prove he's powerfull once he comes back in JL).
Lex wanted them to fight for: 1 if supes kills bats he's not all good (zod doesn't mean in humanity's eyes cause he's a "god" too, and supes had not choice, batman is human), 2 if bats kill supes he's not all powerfull.
I love how MoS is about two fathers and BvS is about two moms.
Absolutly love the mythology here. Cavill is my Superman. I understand that Batman kills, but "men are still good" says everything, he's back in normal. WW rocks. Lex IS a villain, in a CBM, it does looooong time since I've seen one.
This is not the "movie of the moment" it makes u think, a lot. Here in Brazil its a sucsses, my friends loved it too.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Absolutely loved it, it was all I hoped for and a brilliant film in it's own right as well as creating a new world feel to where we are heading across the DCEU.

All the aspects of the characters were grounded in what had been built in MoS and a very brave decision to go where they did with the conclusion and once again, the Clark / Lois dynamic shined.

For me, it was brilliant that the naysayers of Gadot very quickly quitened down when her performace and the reality of how well she did with the role came to light.

I completely understand why Batman 'kills' in this interpretation and I thought Jesse Eisenberg did a knockout performance on Lex.

A brilliant, beautiful, wonderful film that I can't wait to watch the Extended Cut of, 9/10 for me.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Hi! I love this film so much! I've lurking here since its been anounced and post a little.
I can't understand why it got such hate, seriously, never will.
I loved MoS, that movie made me care about Superman (always loved Batman, and thought Superman was meh) and I think Supes is so well done, he's so good as a person, I mean he inspires Bats and WW to come back to their hero actions again, inspires humanity (the citizens) AND proves to Lex his good (and will prove he's powerfull once he comes back in JL).
Lex wanted them to fight for: 1 if supes kills bats he's not all good (zod doesn't mean in humanity's eyes cause he's a "god" too, and supes had not choice, batman is human), 2 if bats kill supes he's not all powerfull.
I love how MoS is about two fathers and BvS is about two moms.
Absolutly love the mythology here. Cavill is my Superman. I understand that Batman kills, but "men are still good" says everything, he's back in normal. WW rocks. Lex IS a villain, in a CBM, it does looooong time since I've seen one.
This is not the "movie of the moment" it makes u think, a lot. Here in Brazil its a sucsses, my friends loved it too.

People complain about how cruel Batman is in this, particularly the car chase when he is attempting to steal the kryptonite. But that's the whole point of the character in this movie. He has turned cruel!

1. The appearance of Superman has made him question himself and how much good he has actually accomplished in his career. He now feels a sense of powerlessness. What is his legacy? (Criminals are like weeds) Has he really made a difference? This turns his actions to an even more extreme measure to what he used to operate under which ties into...

2. This Batman has become cynical, jaded and lost his belief in the good of men. He has gone through a lot of tragedy, losing a Robin, seeing others who were good around him turn bad (Twenty years in Gotham. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?) Which also plays into him believing that he has to kill Superman. Yes, Superman has performed heroic acts but, what if like the others in Bruce's life, Superman turns bad with the type of power he has.

It's not until Superman sacrifices his life for all of humanity that Batman sees that men are still good. That Bruce sees this kind of good, the sacrifice, and he in turn he needs to believe in that good as he did in his earlier years. And so this cruel, cynical, jaded Batman returns to his more "normal" ways without the branding etc...

 

[OutOfBoose]

It's not until Superman sacrifices his life for all of humanity that Batman sees that men are still good. That Bruce sees this kind of good, the sacrifice, and he in turn he needs to believe in that good as he did in his earlier years. And so this cruel, cynical, jaded Batman returns to his more "normal" ways without the branding etc...

I'd argue with this part a bit. Batman first realizes what he became in Martha scene, then he works with other super-heroes to deal with an ultimate threat, sees the sacrifice, watches other people mourn Superman... It all comes to him gradually.

 

[Kyle]

I don't understand how people can say this isn't a hopeful film. Every time I see it, I find it to be really inspiring. I'm going through a rough patch and was when I first saw the film and the thing I got from it was that even in the darkest hour, you can still rise from the ashes and soar again. That no matter how dark things might seem, there is always a light around the corner. Because of that, I personally found it to be really inspiring.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't understand how people can say this isn't a hopeful film. Every time I see it, I find it to be really inspiring. I'm going through a rough patch and was when I first saw the film and the thing I got from it was that even in the darkest hour, you can still rise from the ashes and soar again. That no matter how dark things might seem, there is always a light around the corner. Because of that, I personally found it to be really inspiring.

Same, I was having a bad week the first time I saw it and the movie cheered me up a good bit and made more hopefully for the future.

 

[SiriusLee]

I just can't get over Beautiful Lie from the soundtrack. Hans Zimmer's finest work is BvS, no doubt about it. And this is from someone who's only loved and stood by Danny Elfman's pieces. Beautiful Lie is now among my most favourite

That song takes me to another place. It's so beautiful and it really makes you feel for that 8 year old boy who lost his parents.

 

[Micromind]

I'm a Bat fan mainly, but I'm hoping Supes gets a few more shots in somewhere.

I get what you want to see.. an evenly matched fight, even when Supes is weakend by Kryptonite.

But, the thing is, if Superman hurts Bats, Superman loses as he is acting out of character.

The only way Superman wins this fight is by letting Batman win, if that makes any sense.

 

[AnneFan]

I get what you want to see.. an evenly matched fight, even when Supes is weakend by Kryptonite.

But, the thing is, if Superman hurts Bats, Superman loses as he is acting out of character.

The only way Superman wins this fight is by letting Batman win, if that makes any sense.

Yeah, I get what you mean.

Batman fully embraced the dark and mean persona during BvS, and that was reflected during the fight.

 

[Sleiek]

Same, I was having a bad week the first time I saw it and the movie cheered me up a good bit and made more hopefully for the future.

I wonder if all the people who enjoyed the movie was in a not-so-good part of life when they saw it. I was in one when the movie came out. Depressing complementing depressing perhaps?

I don't understand how people can say this isn't a hopeful film. Every time I see it, I find it to be really inspiring. I'm going through a rough patch and was when I first saw the film and the thing I got from it was that even in the darkest hour, you can still rise from the ashes and soar again. That no matter how dark things might seem, there is always a light around the corner. Because of that, I personally found it to be really inspiring.

I absolutely understand.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I wonder if all the people who enjoyed the movie was in a not-so-good part of life when they saw it. I was in one when the movie came out. Depressing complementing depressing perhaps?



I absolutely understand.

Oh I don't know, I was having a much better week when I saw it a 2nd time and still enjoyed the hell out of it, even more so than my first viewing actually.

 

[Sleiek]

Oh I am sure a few of the happy go lucky folks enjoyed it. But I think the movie might be generally suitable for folks who are depressed. lol

 

[Kyle]

Oh I am sure a few of the happy go lucky folks enjoyed it. But I think the movie might be generally suitable for folks who are depressed. lol

I didn't find it to really be depressing. It's a matter of the theme - in your darkest hour you can still soar above. I see a lot of movies - two to three times in theaters a week and that's not even counting the movies I catch outside of the theaters. The film wasn't 'Ordinary People' dark or typical drama dark and somber, for a blockbuster it's darker than most but I'd place the tone of the film right alongside 'Dawn of the Planet of the Apes' and 'How To Train You Dragon 2.' It wasn't Spider-Man or Avengers light, but this really, really far from being 'Requiem For A Dream' like some make it out to be lol. I saw 'The Ryan White Movie' last night on hulu and was basically in tears throughout the whole thing, to me that was a morose and somber movie.

 

[Bebop Cowboy]

I found a torrent.... Is that bad to say? In any case I liked how Bruce said to Diana, I've known women like you.... Gotta be reference to Catwoman... I didn't pick it up the first time... Anyway, it's probably been already discussed on here, but it brought a little smile to my face when I picked up on it

 

[Legendver2]

I found a torrent.... Is that bad to say? In any case I liked how Bruce said to Diana, I've known women like you.... Gotta be reference to Catwoman... I didn't pick it up the first time... Anyway, it's probably been already discussed on here, but it brought a little smile to my face when I picked up on it

Or Talia

 

[matt47]

Or Talia

I'll be okay with that as long as there is no child!

 

[LamboMan]

Maybe you guys will appreciate these threads that I wrote more than the others on this forum:

The Themes in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Real World / Historical / Pop Culture References in BvS

 

[Luke234]

Good reads. I'm going back for a third viewing today. Absolutely loved it. I don't know which I loved more. I guess I view mos and b v s as one big story. I can't even pick. But I just love this superman so much. With being hated by so many it hurts his feelings deeply but still pushes himself to do the right thing. Nothing is easy. I just can't say enough about this drama.

 

[Mysteryman]

I found a torrent.... Is that bad to say? In any case I liked how Bruce said to Diana, I've known women like you.... Gotta be reference to Catwoman... I didn't pick it up the first time... Anyway, it's probably been already discussed on here, but it brought a little smile to my face when I picked up on it

I noticed that,too.
Nice to not be the only one who noticed!