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[RedIsNotBlue]

The more money it makes assures FF3 and the franchise continues. Who cares if it's releaed on the 4th because it sounds cool.

I am getting sick of this attitude. I don't want sequels just because of money. I want GOOD sequels. We want a QUALITY franchise not one that is continuing solely on profit.

 

[Carp Man]

The same director, the same move... that doesn't bode well.

Poor FF: what a fate in the cinema for one of the best (some say the best) comicbooks ever.

Let's not be to hasty. 330 Million speaks for itself, despite it's flaws. Bodes well for the sequel. From a purly finacial point of view, great move on Fox's part, now let's see if they can deliver a movie worthy of the title FF.

 

[Mr Sensitive]

330 Million speaks for itself, despite it's flaws. Bodes well for the sequel.

Speaks for Fox execs, who got the money; not for the movie, which was badly injured.

And it's bad for the sequel, suggesting that the same scheme will result in the same flaws.

 

[liesse00]

Speaks for Fox execs, who got the money; not for the movie, which was badly injured.

And it's bad for the sequel, suggesting that the same scheme will result in the same flaws.

You don't know that!

And no it dose not suggest that!

 

[Carp Man]

You don't know that!

He assumes much. Just like I do. I look for a better movie. I think they learned from their mistakes, and this one will be better. Of course the 1st one was great, dispite its shortconnings. In my unhumble, biased opinion.

 

[Mr Sensitive]

You don't know that!

And no it dose not suggest that!

What, exactly, I don't know, liesse?

And it does suggest that: Fox is happy by making a sloppy movie and, even so, hit the jackpot. They structure the same lame-ass production, move the premiere et voilà.

 

[Hunter Rider]

What, exactly, I don't know, liesse?

And it does suggest that: Fox is happy by making a sloppy movie and, even so, hit the jackpot. They structure the same lame-ass production, move the premiere et voilà.

Different writer and different SFX house,like you Mr S i am cautious and i would prefer the time of shooting schedule that SM3 is having but I'm holding off judging until i see some shots and have some more details

 

[Mr Sensitive]

Different writer and different SFX house,like you Mr S i am cautious and i would prefer the time of shooting schedule that SM3 is having but I'm holding off judging until i see some shots and have some more details

Yeah, still waiting for the confirmation of the script. I hope Frost is out. And the FX news is a good one, but, still, we have those two concerns.

Let's see what happens.

 

[Carp Man]

Yeah, still waiting for the confirmation of the script. I hope Frost is out. And the FX news is a good one, but, still, we have those two concerns.

Let's see what happens.

Yea that's what we need, a 20 minute cartoon writer. Right. lol

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Yea that's what we need, a 20 minute cartoon writer. Right. lol

I luv my mummy. my mummy is bestest. - John Steinbeck, age 5.

Everyone has to start somewhere.

. . . and don't forget. Payne has already written a (soon to be released) feature length movie featuring a superhero. Fantastic Four was Frost's first, so Payne has a more impressive resume' at this point than Frost did prior to FF.

 

[Dynasty]

Yea that's what we need, a 20 minute cartoon writer. Right. lol

Anybody who wants to write a good screenplay is more than capable, the fact that he was able to get on at the Simpson’s is an amazing sign of his talent, is there a comedy writer in the world who wouldn’t die for a chance to write for the Simpson’s, hell its the longest running series ever, sure the show might have gone downhill but there's no denying that writing for the Simpson’s is a HUGE accomplishment, Oscar winner James L. Brooks wrote for the Simpson’s and he’s an amazing film maker, Nobody including myself knows what Payne’s capable of but the fact that he's in the position he's in now and so quickly shows that people in the industry can't ignore his skill. The glass is more than half full

 

[Carp Man]

Anybody who wants to write a good screenplay is more than capable, the fact that he was able to get on at the Simpson’s is an amazing sign of his talent, is there a comedy writer in the world who wouldn’t die for a chance to write for the Simpson’s, hell its the longest running series ever, sure the show might have gone downhill but there's no denying that writing for the Simpson’s is a HUGE accomplishment, Oscar winner James L. Brooks wrote for the Simpson’s and he’s an amazing film maker, Nobody including myself knows what Payne’s capable of but the fact that he's in the position he's in now and so quickly shows that people in the industry can't ignore his skill. The glass is more than half full

If memory serves me. The Simpsons is a Fox production ? Ergo, I say a bit of boot licking there ? No Question he's a great TV writer. Simpions is one of my favotites. But writing a 20 minute cartoon, and writing a 2 hour, major motion picture are 2 different animals. However, that being said, if they decide to go with his script, I hope it is a home run for the franchise. I have serious doubts, but if it's him, I hope it knocks everyones including myself's socks off.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, still waiting for the confirmation of the script. I hope Frost is out. And the FX news is a good one, but, still, we have those two concerns.

Let's see what happens.

I'm hoping this new writer will expand the scope of the movie
Story i thought did well with the F4 themselves last time i just would like him to hire a better Stunt coordinator and action unit,maybe a different cinematographer wouldn't hurt

 

[Carp Man]

I'm hoping this new writer will expand the scope of the movie
Story i thought did well with the F4 themselves last time i just would like him to hire a better Stunt coordinator and action unit,maybe a different cinematographer wouldn't hurt

Yea, throw the baby out with the bath water, right ? Story did an excelent job with what he was given. What was wroung with the stunts ? And the filming ? 1st time i'm hearing about the Stunt coridanator, and the filming crew.

 

[liesse00]

Again I'm really starting to dislike "assuming" nothing good has come from doing that lately. Shooting a full year before a movie comes out is normal process, it's what most movies do.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Well at least it's good to see Harry at AICN is already bashing FF2 on his site. He's just a broken record.

"Fox is evil, Rothman is the Devil, Tim Story sucks, Ratner sucks, I'm fat..."

Droning continues...

 

[Advanced Dark]

I am getting sick of this attitude. I don't want sequels just because of money. I want GOOD sequels. We want a QUALITY franchise not one that is continuing solely on profit.

Well you'll be sick the rest of your life then. We all want a great movie and for it to make a box office splash as well. There are great movies that just bomb at the box office and deserive a sequel. There are also bad movies that do good/great at the box office that get a second chance at redeeming itself because of the money it brought it. Of course I want a great movie but that's not what the argument was.

By the way...We're talking about timing the release of FF2 to maximize the box office not sacrificing quality ok Red. Don't confuse one point with the other.

 

[Mr Sensitive]

Yea that's what we need, a 20 minute cartoon writer. Right. lol

Carpy,

what you seem to forget is that Frost wrote a script that even the worst comicbook writer would easily write.

So, when you propose some perspective, bear that in mind, will ya?

 

[MJB]

The only spark of hope i see is that the clueless execs has to know they dodged a bullet with the first one. They have realize they can't be lucky a second go round. The F4 was ripped to shreds by ever major critic and FOX and Marvel can say whatever excuse they want, but when it boils down to it they were not happy about the massive negative reviews. Those reviews hurt the box office take. Reviews can make the difference in a movie that made a 150 million but could've made 200 million with positive reviews. I think people were skeptical about Batman Returns and that's why it didn't have the big opening weekend that WB was hoping, but the quality of the film and the positive reviews and word of mouth got the skeptics interest and they went and seen it. Despite all the bad reviews The F4 still managed to perform well enough to get a sequel. FOX has to know this won't be the case twice so they have to make a better product. I don't know what is true and what isn't but they seem to move in the right direction by getting a new screenwriter. Well at least the two scripts that were mentioned online were written by someone different the Kinberg and Frost

My major gripes with the F4 was:

No real or epic threat and the film's biggest flaw.
The poor treatment of Doom.
The mediocre looking Thing.
Reed was said to be the smartest man on earth, but he didn't show it.
No Fantastic gizmos and inventions.
The invisable woman who had strip to when she should've been able turn her cloths invisable.
The weak supernova that HT did at the end, which should've turned Doom's ass to ash.
The poor fx and unimaginative use of Reed's power.
Ben telling Reed don't worry about his mutation, he's good as is? What The Phuck??


The Good:

Human Torch was a 100% right and fx was good.
The thing's personality was dead on.
The interaction between Thing and HT
The Costumes
Sue's power was well done.
The comedic tone was good.


If FOX works out the flaws or most of them, then I'll be happy as well as a lot of other people.

 

[MJB]

Speaks for Fox execs, who got the money; not for the movie, which was badly injured.

And it's bad for the sequel, suggesting that the same scheme will result in the same flaws.

The only and I mean only light that is at the end of the tunnel is that the first F4 was ripped to shreds by every major critic in every major newspaper and entertainment magazine. Believe me FOX was not happy about that one bit, because it hurt the box office take. FOX knows they dodged on hell of a bullet and won't be so lucky twice if they make the movie sloppy the second go round. I hoping they realize that they have to put forth a better product.

 

[Jolie_Desastre]

i just hope they don't rush it like the last time

 

[Carp Man]

i just hope they don't rush it like the last time

It's not the filming, but the spx, and polishing that is the most time consumming. They had 900 to 1,000 frames that needed spx on the 1st movie. This movie may require more, and especially if they add the SS to the mix. Soooooooooooooo, we'll have to see.

 

[Jolie_Desastre]

It's not the filming, but the spx, and polishing that is the most time consumming. They had 900 to 1,000 frames that needed spx on the 1st movie. This movie may require more, and especially if they add the SS to the mix. Soooooooooooooo, we'll have to see.

the first one seemed so rushed.

i'm just saying hopefully they'll take some time but like you said we'll just have to see.

 

[Carp Man]

the first one seemed so rushed.

i'm just saying hopefully they'll take some time but like you said we'll just have to see.

Bottom line is we all want a better sequel. And we have no choice but to trust that everyone learned from the 1st one. Even me ( allthough I thorougly enjoyed the 1st one).

 

[Jolie_Desastre]

Bottom line is we all want a better sequel. And we have no choice but to trust that everyone learned from the 1st one. Even me ( allthough I thorougly enjoyed the 1st one).

if they get a pretty good script, and work better on the special effects ( sue's was great, mr fantastic's needs work) they could come out with a pretty decent flick