News & Discussion Thread

[TX85]

Did another actor play Ripcord before the character died or did they show Marlon Wayanes or they just referenced the character???

 

[S. Grundy]

The only characters in the movie or referenced from the first one are Duke, Zartan, Cobra Commander, Destro, Storm Shadow, Snake Eyes.

 

[Rowsdower!]

That's funny since the Baroness was so central to the "plot" in the first movie and it was intended to be a big breakout role for Sienna Miller. Instead, it seems to have torpedoed her career.

 

[cryptic name]

This was pretty much exactly what I expected. Enjoyed it. Thought everything with Cobra, and Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow was great. Everything else was pretty mediocre. And damn, Adrianne Palicki is just too gorgeous.

 

[Nova2113]

Adrianne Palicki is something special...

I don't know if it was the actor (DJ) or the Character but I didn't care too much for Flint. Who says what he said, when he said it in the desert? Really? Could of done some better writing there.

 

[TX85]

Still no Sgt.Slaughter cameo!?,Any praise for Rock's RoadBlock?

 

[TheVileOne]

I mean it's the Rock. He's tough cool and charismatic, but I mean he's not exactly working with Joss Whedon material here.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I saw it earlier with a group of friends. It was a sold action movie, I had a blast watching it. It's not high level film, but it wasn't tryin to be.

I'd give it an 8/10. A million times better than that first POS

 

[Warhammer]

Pretty much agreed on everything you said Warhammer.

Both Joe films have big flaws and weak scripts so its tough for me choose which is better. Each have their pros. This one shouldnt anger as many fans as the last one did thats for sure. But I still thought there were some things the other did better.

I agree on that one.

Spoiler

That's actually straght from the comics.

The thing about that is [blackout]if they were to incorporate that into this film, they sure needed one hell of an explanation as to why Storm Shadow didn't just kill Zartan in the first film or anytime before Cobra Commander's breakout.[/blackout] It honestly makes no sense to me and caused me to completely lose my sense of disbelief. Poorly written.

 

[bullets]

Did another actor play Ripcord before the character died or did they show Marlon Wayanes or they just referenced the character???

No mention of Ripcord , but I think the film would of been better if his character

Spoiler

Died in the opening instead of Duke

RZA's scenes and dialogue are terrible. It's like he's trying to speak in a chop-socky movie, dubbed over voice. This isn't Kill Bill and you ain't Quentin Tarantino.

I cringed when he spoke. I guess they needed someone to talk , but that didn't work for me. I enjoyed the film , but had minor issues such as this one.

How much screen time does Storm Shadow have? Does he talk much? I thought he was the best character in the first movie.

I think he is one of the best characters in this film and he gets an interesting subplot.

Despite the rest of the Joes 'dead' and because certain things were not mention or forgotten, in theory, Scarlett can come back for the third film right?

They could say she was inactive or working as part of a different unit. If they really wanted to bring back certain characters i think they could. We could also assume General Hawk retired if they want to being Dennis Quaid back.

 

[Warhammer]

I started laughing like crazy when RZA showed up. Everything from his voice to how he looked was just too hammy.

 

[Blade X]

I started laughing like crazy when RZA showed up. Everything from his voice to how he looked was just too hammy.

IMO, they should have gotten Ernie Hudson to play the Blind Master instead of RZA (since Hudson actually looks like the Blind Master).

 

[LostSon88]

Just got out and frankly, I liked the first one just a tad better…it at least flowed much smoother and had a very clear story.

This one,

Spoiler

just seemed all over the place. Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow with their own subplot almost seemed like a completely seperate movie. Its almost like he wasn't even concerned over everything going on with the Joes because he was busy training Jinx and doing his own thing.

Cutting back and forth with that and the main plot of the Joes, it just was very choppy.

Once it was over, I think the biggest mistake was...

Spoiler

Killing off Duke. Right there, you take away the heart of the team and series and for me it showed. The movie lost that energy it had in the first act.

Nothing against Dwayne Johnson who i'm a BIG fan of but the movie worked much better when he had someone like Channing Tatum to play off of. The crowd were really responding to the beginning and their friendship.

But once Duke was out of the picture, Roadblock didn't have a very charismatic supporting cast.

Flint? The guy was disposable. Absolutely nothing special about the guy. Lady Jaye? Pretty and all that but again, nothing particularly special.

I thought the main story was decent but rushed. The final battle? Again cool…but short.

I think this sums it up best…there's definitely a good movie in there somewhere. As it is, it was very 'meh'.

Again,

Spoiler

Losing Duke was its biggest mistake.

Oh and RZA can't act for ****.

 

[S. Grundy]

I agree on that one.



The thing about that is [blackout]if they were to incorporate that into this film, they sure needed one hell of an explanation as to why Storm Shadow didn't just kill Zartan in the first film or anytime before Cobra Commander's breakout.[/blackout] It honestly makes no sense to me and caused me to completely lose my sense of disbelief. Poorly written.

[BLACKOUT]But he only learned about it/put it together in this movie when he was brought to the Blind Master. All he knew was someone framed him, not who did it.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[smallville fan]

I agree with everything LostSon88 said. Killing Duke off was a mistake, the friendship that was there between Roadblock and Duke was rather pleasant to watch. What I missed most was pretty much most of the original cast. Scarlett and Lady Jaye were pretty much interchangeable here. It would've made no difference except more familiarity and characters we grew to like from the first movie(At least for some of us).

I missed Marlon Wayans, Dennis Quaid and everyone else. The potential interaction between General Hawk and General Joseph Colton might have been interesting to watch.

 

[StarLord]

Has anyone seen it in 3D?

I might go see it next Wednesday and there is only one 2D showing, the rest is 3D. Very bizarre.

 

[NiteMare Shape]

haven't seen it yet...but did they kill off Duke on screen, or is there any way that they could bring him back?

 

[Symbiotic]

3D was amazing. And Duke dies on-screen. You see his dead body after the fact.

 

[NiteMare Shape]

3D was amazing. And Duke dies on-screen. You see his dead body after the fact.

Well...that sucks ass

 

[CEREBRAL....]

I haven't seen this movie yet, but what i have grown tired of since these comicbook/movie films have taken shape, is the LAZY approach by hollywood, critics, some fans and the hiring a directors, writers..etc to protary the material as "just being..".

What i mean is if "TFers" fails.... then it's looked at as "well it's just toys", if FF, G.I.joe, etc fails...everyones approach and excuse is always "well they are just *insert excuse* so what did you expect, let's just re-tell the story this way because they are just toy, the audience isn't gonna understand or no the difference??

That's crap, because if hollywood gave a crap, and if the directors and writers had any talent you can take any source material and make a great film...it doesnt have to be shakespearian;just a solid action movie....i.e. "The avengers"

These comicbooks have great source material and great characters to build on if done right, the characters persona is no different then a character written and portrayed by ocars worthy talent..so to speak...

again not asking for anything shakespearian...but you couldnt (for example) write cobra commander to be a great villian? he's a terrorist right...how many "terrorist" have we seen in films, and they turned out be great villains/solid villians..."darth vader,joker"...moving away from the comic book genre 'Hans Gruber" from die hard as another example...

not to sound like i'm leap frogging from one point to the another, but in the comics "cobra commander" and "megatron" are written as great villians, the cartoons although cheesy you do get a sense of them being fascinating villains...so knowing all that, how the hell a hollywood writer and director couldnt get those characters (so to speak...) right...and i dont mean just them...but all the characters they try to protary in these movies...i mean it's not hard..

i'm sure a film student could do a better job.. frustrated

 

[Warhammer]

[BLACKOUT]But he only learned about it/put it together in this movie when he was brought to the Blind Master. All he knew was someone framed him, not who did it.[/BLACKOUT]

You mean to tell me that only after Blind Master told him to think about it, he came to that realization? Storm Shadow had years and years to think about that s***.

 

[Marvin]

The grappling hooks and they way there fired...reminded me of Batman the animated series...oh nolan.

The angry birds seen cracked me up.

 

[LostSon88]

You mean to tell me that only after Blind Master told him to think about it, he came to that realization? Storm Shadow had years and years to think about that s***.

Yeah, that **** was kinda lame.

Especially when you go back to Part 1 and see them working side by side.

I mean I understand the need of Chu who as a big fan, wanted to be faithful to the established comic canon but it really wasn't necessary.

 

[TheAQU4M4N]

how did they reference Destro, really sad he didn't come back.

 

[Symbiotic]

how did they reference Destro, really sad he didn't come back.

I'll spoiler tag this one.

Spoiler

Destro is actually in the film, in person, but when Storm Shadow breaks Cobra Commander out of prison, they leave Destro locked up, and Cobra Commander says something like "Sorry, Destro, but you're out of the game."