Next time they should go with free roam.

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  1. Mike

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    The Batman Begins game was a good rental but as an overall game it didnt push the right buttons with me. It didnt really capture the dark nature of the movie. The game was also too short. I think it would of been better if it was free roaming with a very dark tone. The Batman Begins game kept mentioning putting fear into your enemies but it was executed very wrong. The fighting was also very repetitive and the interrogation mechanics were mediocre. I hope they go with a free roaming Gotham with access to the Batcave and the Batmobile anytime we want in the next Batman game. It is the best Batman game but that's not saying much. I would give it a 6/
     
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    The Batman Begins game would be excellent with a free-roam type environment that exists in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
     
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    The cape also bothered me too. Not to be nitpicky but he just didnt seem like batman with that skinny ass cape. It should almost cover hist chest and legs when he's standing still. I'm a Batman fan and felt like this game didnt really deliver the goods like the movie(BB) did. It would of been cool if it was free roaming, having us snatch up thugs in a very eerie horror like way from rooftops. Have citizens/thugs get scared if they see you. Better stealth and fighting mechanics. The fighting in BB was too klunky. The only thing I would give thumbs up to is the voice acting in BB game and they should keep the cast when they make another Batman game, but I doubt it.
     
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    batman and robin for ps1 was free roam almost. :D
     
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    i honestly don't think that a free roaming game would work with batman. what i do think is that every level shouldn't be linear. now i haven't gotten the game, but since it's been compared to splinter cell i'm taking it from that. splinter cell was very linear in that the only doors you could open are the ones that allow you to move along in.

    i think, let's say that if you are suppose to go in Crane's apartment building in the narrows you should start like in a random alley where you parked the batmobile. then you should have to sneak around the entire narrows searching for the right building and avoiding civilians seeing you. if civilians see you this could alert Crane's thugs and they would come get your or leave or something.

    Also, if you in a building you should be able to walk where ever and use grapple where ever.

    it's not totally free roam but it's a good start.
     
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    I actually liked that game and own it, I am going to have to dig in my brothers room and see if I can find it.
     
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    ALMOST? bud it WAS free roam, first of its kind. now im going to go on and tell yuo my diea's of a free roaming batman game. BATMAN AND ROBIN for ps1...that was almost PERFECT for batman. but if it were done...lets say for ps3(being realistic) id like where picking your OWN path may lead to different things, the possibilities are truley endless with batman.

    a free raoming next gen batman game would put ANY GTA to shame if it were done right, you would CONTROL batman, and YOU could use stealth, it doesnt have to be scripted, have a stealth or shadow meter, and you actually BEING batman, you would need to keep an eye out on the nightsky for a batsignal, then rush over there via grapple or batmobile. just think of the possibilities of what batman is, he is human, but has all the great toys, using the batgrapple MUCH liek the spiderweb will be unbelieveable FUN! because hes a regular guy, and YOU get to control him(if done right) another topic would be that CAPE, it could be controlled, held up around you for helping your stealth[​IMG]

    the graphics on the cape would make it look like a gigantic piece of cloth or whatever...think ALEX ROSS painting and how big and billowing that cape can be, and how beutiful it could look in a game...if you can imagine gliding up above rooftops with a GIGANTIC billowing cape
    [​IMG] BEUTIFUL REAL graphics (much like Batman begins but having less animated character movements(more real).

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    [​IMG] IMAGINE this scene in a real video game...IN PLAY! looking over the city

    running along rooftops in alleyways, just LISTENING....you hear a girl scream, there wouldnt be any pop ups or anything even, it would be ALL your control, gotham in your hands as batman....you rush to the girl in need, on the rooftops above you observe....trying to think of a way to ef this guy up messin with this lady....you throw a batarang at a window, fence or some random thing, and he runs for it....BUT he has the purse, you jump down, look at the lady and see if she is alright, she says yes, then backup to the rooftops(the criminal couldnt have gotten far) you jump across roofs and you see a man runnning is fastest, thats gotta be him...you stalk him atop the rooftops until he finally stops...maybe at his apartment, you could either just waait it out and smash through a window, or take him out right then and there.....now there would be OTHER ways of going about catching him, hell you could of snatched him right up from that alley way! THAT is how a petty crime should go down, there would be MANY MANY different scenario's, much liek spiderman 2 but WIDER and WAY more involveing...and everything is NON-LINEAR..how EVERYbody likes it especially me!

    now SOMEbody needs to get this done...it could be game of the year, or game of the decade, who knows!!! and im REALLY thinking it should be done on PS3. and other next gen systems, that way the graphics will look outSTANDING while having a GIGANTIC gotham to free roam with an outstanding amount of replayability, almost never ending if DONE right......

    we need to start a petition, becuase everyone has got all these FANTASTIC ideas in there head. Imagine just you in the gigantic batcave, you could use the computer ANYtime....you could have a costume vault with an array of past costumes and new ones, different variantions, you could actually PICK what gadgets and weapons batman can take out that night, endless amounts of possibilities....ENDLESS even more so than spiderman.

    [​IMG] Be able to actually gain clues, FIGURE out crimes USE your head! and the computer would help tremendously!

    the time system in the game would be REAL time, it would take however long it takes before the sun raises, then report back to wayne manor, get some sleep to pass time, or even handle wayne enterprise buisness as serious mini games.... but once night rolls its head around, you can have the choice to take a breather....hey there could be a health bar, along with an intesity bar, and stanima bar. that may perfect your anger and performance upon criminals. you can go down to the cave via any secret entrance there is or could be in the game, you can go in the vault, go into a mode for batman suits, like colors (black grey, Blue gray, all black, yellow oval ect) you have an aray of utility belts, pouched, capsule....you can have the choice, your preparing to be batman as realisticly as it GETS, even pop a tylenol before heading out! He would show wear

    thats the level of realism i want! and the game owuld be terribly LOOOONG, much like batman and robin for PS1, the game developers COULD have the choice to put a bigger plot into the fold maybe, or have it develop later on DEPENDING ON WHICH PATH YOU MAKE and how you EFFECT gotham!!!! HOW SWEET WOULD THAT BE!!! all in the mix dealing with this [​IMG] his parents death, thinking about it sometimes, gives you the fight to go on and raises your meter.

    How ironic would it be....Being that everyone lieks to claim that batman games always suck balls, that Batman"Legends" shall we call it, (just to fit in with every other legends game, lol) for Ps3 would be the best game of all time...heh

    i could go on ALLLL NIGHT about this "dream" game, but im sure you guys dont want to read all of this!
     
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    Well A free roam game I.M.O. Could make the game..or kill it. You Just need the right person directing the game. If you dont then the thing can go down the tubes faster then superman 64
     
  9. Spidey 2007

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    lol i dont think anything could go down a tube faster then superman 64.
     
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    Dude you seriously need to keep going!!! Great ideas man :up: I wish you were the lead desginer for that Batman Begins game.
     
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    heh, thanks! finally some recognition for that long post :cool:

    there really is an endless amount of ideas, that people behind the games totally fail to relize, and i cant believe anyone really doesnt think of what i wrote up. It would take time to make sure, but i willl wait. If one day i see it confirmed....my life MAY be complete. Now only if i had the educationa nd smarts to actually make games, you have this puppy by now! but thats pretty impossible, I can just shoot my ideas out here all day, but not go anywhere.

    thanks tho :up:
     
  12. Mike

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    Dude you never know, EA or Ubi Soft or whoever is developing the next Batman game might look at you and my ideas. We're going into the next gen consoles and I dont think the developers are going to make money if they have simple gameplay, crap graphics, and a short ass Story Mode, especially if the next gen games are going to cost 60 bucks. But seriously go on, you might just make me motivated to write out a long ass wish list like how you did. But please, keep the ideas coming, :up:
     
  13. Spidey 2007

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    okay! stay tuned for yet...more wonderful Bat-Ideas!
     
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    Same Bat-thread?
    Same Bat-time?
     
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    The costume in Begins is alot more menacing than the designs posted earlier, but great ideas nontheless. I thought Batman Begins was pretty damn good. Graphics were great, sound was great, control was great. I didnt like the in-ability to level select however and the game was a bit short(kinda expected that tho). Overall, the game, i thought did a good job with keeping up with the movies atmosphere. The fact is i had fun playing the game, and thats what it ultimately comes to. I give it an 8.
    O yea , Mike, man thats some really kick ass ideas you got man, most ppl spit out these crazy ass ideas that could never actually happen, yours tho man, are pretty damn plausable, tad bit far-fetched but plausable nontheless.
     
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    ...probably yeaa... ^_^

    anyone have a EA or ubi soft members name? Hell you has the rights to the comic-book type batman, surely not Kemco still?
     
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    thanks for your review! :oo

    but uhh, it can get alot better, im sayin a free raoming comic-book style game with movie costumes available IN it, the ULTIMATE batman game.....Batman:Legends lol. wouldnt it be cool to play Robin batgirl and nightwing too? ah yess, theres an idea, like i said earlier about choosing your pathway through your life as Batman, there could be like four unpredictable games, each pathway with a villian behind the story, and a sidekick story, say you end up with Robin, and nightwing and batgirl are off away...doing...something, lol, there would be an intresting story concerning robin, and say the main villian behind that story would be...uh...lets say Riddler. i dont know how to describe it any better then that at the moment, but hopefully ya get my idea. look at it like the WWE games, how the story mode works on that, or the choose your own adventure books, your decisions affect the game drastically, but theres never a "game over" Hey if Tim gets killed by the joker or whoever, it will be the players fault, for either al.not being there or making the wrong move, just as if it were real.

    That is only a dream concept, because yea I love batmans allies, and would love to play as them, or at there side. But scratching that idea is fine. Name it Batman:year one, there could be your story and VARIOUS sequeals to come, Batman year 2, or some crap like that..maybe not.

    I cant really think of that much as good as i thought last night, i was pumped last night, lol. Maybe YOU guys would like to express your thoughts on something?

    But something I love in Batman and Robin PS1 was that there were crimes you had to race to, If you were late, you could scower the area for left over CLUES, and if you were EARLY, before the robber or villian got there, you had the chance to foil or protect the store/place from him. You would have the Police headquarters marked on your map, you could stop by Gordons office ANYtime, just liek the animated series, and get info on what MAY be happening, or who is out on the loose to watch out for. Heh, you could even have the choice, when gordon looks away, to hurry up out the window, standing on the ledge of the building you would here him whisper "how...what....." or "why does he always do that!" or something. Little touches like that can make the game special in the hearts of many.

    Back to what i mentioned about getting to a crime scene early, you collected clues from the previous crime from this guy/super villian you need to bust, so you arrive early at the proposed jewlery shop(for example). THIS is where the stealth comes in BIG time, you must think, you have MANY gadgets, look out for trip wires, and investigate the place, see what they are after. You could stake out for a couple minutes, or how ever it takesyou hear someone in the other room, he comes in to scope the place out, you snatch him up in the darkness, nobody see's you.....you pick off your enemies ONE by ONE, PURE batman style...dispose of them as you wish. Hell, you could hang him on a coat rack, so when the guy with the flashlight points at him, he gets the **** scared outta him! You could even set it up, as when he starts running, stand right behind him, and he runs into you without knowing. grab him up and interrigate. Cuff them all and dispose of them however you would like, hang them from a street post or something, and alert gordon. Now thats only the petty crime scenario.

    Maybe some other stuff will come to me, but hopefully you guys could add, and maybe i can pitch this idea over WB entertainment, or whoever runs the video game deparment if its at all possible, lol, like i said, wouldnt a petition rule?
     
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    This just popped into my head, but PLEASE picture with me, USING the BATCYCLE to get from one place to another, how much of a rush would THAT BE!!? you know how fun it is in say, GTA SA, but this right here would easily blow that away. Your Cape blowing in the air, as your racing thruogh the streets of gotham fastest you can in all the PS3 GRAPHIC GLORY! Just imagine how badass it would look.

    Hell here comes another Idea...Car chases involving the batmobile or batcycle, liek i said with the choosing your path, you make a mistake, and a ew criminals got away, you need to chase after them and get answers, they could be working for a big boss, such as Two-face.....so you run to your batmobile(whatever batmobile you choose fromt he cave), push Triangle to get in, X to start ignition and X to accelerate, also included would be the analog sticks, with pressure sensitivity, and well, race to find them, then you relize, DOH' forgot to tag there car with a tracer. THATS what the whole realism thing would be about, You must think liek the Bat. it would be your fault you didnt tag it, you had the option to, but you forgot, so now what? Lets take a Batcycle scenario, same controls, but you actually tagged the car. Chasing along swerving in between traffic, in Beutiful PS3 graphics, Cape whipping in the air, you ride up along side the car, they may have guns, they may not, you shoudl decide what youd need to do, now lets say these boys dont have guns, you push Square....leaping off your Batcycle(you can manufacture another in your spare time) with your beutiful bat-cape and graphics, you land atop the criminals car, THIS is where it would play out liek Spiderman 2, but in that game there wasnt the deep story. press square to Start pounding on the roof, or you could reach thru the window by pressing circle, or vice versa. Now at this point your putting your life in danger, you have a thug in your grips, what do you do? you notice, we arnt on the best of pathways, and this car is heading for a wall. so you think, I leap off, Press X, while still holding the thug(hold in L1 or something) then while up in mid air, fire your Grapple(R1) while directioning yourself with the analog stick!!!! WHAT A RUSH!, pull yourself up to the nearest ledge, just toss that thug up hold him over the edge and a list of sayings...and interigation remarks would pop up. choose one get your answer, then hell, if he asks who you are....tell him your BATMAN ;).......tie him up, the others are in the wreck down there...and report to gordon.

    Phew, and that right there my friends would be a petty crime at its best!!!! hell you could even track down your batcycle, it may still be able to run, then back to the batcave, if ya WANT to, maybe you suffered some type of damage you wanna wrap up.


    Heh, Any additions or critisizm is welcome!!!
     
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    HMMMMM, just though of great thing....I always stress PS3, but theres NOTHING i wouldnt want more then a ps2 version of a free raoming batman game, because i was taking a stroll around IGN and Noticed the New Spiderman game....which i TOTALLY forgot about

    ultimate Spiderman, lets see how THAT puppy turns out!, its not far away either. back on the ps3 note, The Getaway

    now take a look at some of these

    [​IMG] YA YA its LONDON i know, but look at the detail! imagine a sprawling GOTHAM CITY

    or enviroments such as this with detail, mayeb youll get some idea on how well this could be done if someone gets their head outta their asses.[​IMG]

    as you all well and know Spiderman 3 is also slated for PS3...now, If batman doesnt come out before then, im sure spiderman 3 will REVOLUTIONIZE free raom gaming, i think its possible.

    OKAY More news just KEEPS rolling the **** in! take a look at this! http://ps3.ign.com/articles/626/626820p1.html

    now it wont be batman, but can include batman yes. Time will tell on how all of this will play out!
     
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    I think the free roaming Batman game should be like Batman Begins where Batman is actually scary and less campy. Have Batman be brutal and have his costume dark and scary. I kind of dont want to see any allies in the game. They just make Batman seem too campy. It should have weather physics too. I dont think we should change in and out of costume; leave that to Supes and Spidey. Most of Batman's enemies should be in the game and make them have a real but errie design to them. Wayne Manor would be cool to explore, maybe when can only change into Bruce when we're in the manor and Batcave. It would be cool if we could go in the Batcave and on Batman's computer and look at his enemies profile. The only vehicles I think Batman should have is the Batmobile,Batwing, and the Batcycle. But most of the time I think I'll be gliding or jumping roof tops.
     
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    well i hope your not directing that first line at me, i was never ever implying he should be campy AT all, notice my whole scenario i wrote up!!!

    okay so your saying LIMIT the stuff we can do and make me unhappy :p


    okay, well, you bring up a terrific, TERRIFIC point about weather physics, i dont know why i ddint think about it. but yea, that could make the game even more fun and beutiful.

    Now I like your ideas, its just limited in my perspective, why would just want to limit to that? why not widen it up to satisy everybody, i mean, you still can DO that, you can MAKE your own path, if you want to you dont HAAVE to ever change your costume, and you can buld your reputation as one scary son ofa *****!!!!! you wouldnt have to change into bruce wayne, you wouldnt care about the wayne enterprise, lol, then it would fall terribly, but yuo dont care ;)

    what im trying to say, is that im thinking your limiting the possibilities mike, have all of your ideas, the dark, creepy aspect in it. And i disagree about the sidekicks, it depends one HOW you USE them, these characters are really deep, and i dont think tim drake makes batman campy at all if used right, he could be one badass muther ****er, that could **** you or me up instantly! Same with nightwing, dont tell me you wouldnt want to play as Dick Grayson, The most ATHLETIC person in the DC universe, how fun would that be, hell hop on over to bludhaven! IF used right, these people can be serious, if (like i said) used right. [​IMG]

    but hey, thats just my honest opinion, i love robin and nightwing, and batgirl, you dont have to :) just add them in the game for us fella's who would LOVE to play as them! it WOULDNT be Rise of Sin tzu at allll, keep that in mind ;)


    Nightwing Reminded me of another feature.... Power bars, and meters.

    Agility, Strength, Speed, would be basic stuff, you would be able to view those by either pressing select, and going into the menu screen, or in the batcave, you can constantly add to those meters. Some other meters are some i mentioned before, the reputation meter, the shadow meter(which would be on screen at all times by your health bar and stanima bar) and probably one other bar, maybe some type of meter that tracks your fight skills, or your ability of fighting, or what you actually know, or SOMETHING, I dont know. maybe ill clear it up later ;)
     
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    Here are some PS3 screenshots from a game called darknes, DONT mind the scary demon creatures, but what the enviroments can look like, dark, dark, dark, and scary.


    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I kind of dont want to limit everything but I just think we should have a darker Batman we havent seen in the video game world yet. It would be cool to have NightWing in there but no Batgirl, I'm sorry she's just corny. Believe me if you knew half of the ideas I want in a free roaming Batman game you would see I'm thinking more then just under the bar. But about Bruce Wayne, what could we do as Bruce, buy companies/buildings? Bruce is a billionare, his money is damn there limitless. Maybe we could go to parties and mingle.Maybe we could check out Wayne Inc. But I doubt that EA would put that in any Batman game. I hated the fighting and scare tatics used in the BB game. I would just like to dispose of a thugs weapon with a batarang or any way I want. I dont want a scripted straight foward,"YOU HAVE TO DO THIS," linear technique on taking out thugs. It would be cool if the Batmobile would just come when we want it to with a click of a button. I think there should be a cool interrogation mini game, better than Punisher. We could hang thugs upside down from roof tops and just let them drop until they're inches from the ground.
     
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    and during the day why not have the option to play as bruce and collect resources, build things, workout to get stronger and use aliases like matches malone, etc.

    it'll never happen though, spidey 2007. :(
     
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    I agree, i posted that in my first response man, the linear **** has to go.

    i BEG you to list your ideas, im BEGGING, im here, you cant see me, but im on my knees!?!?!?!? Thats a great idea on the interrogations.

    im sticking this stuff in a neat portfolio and ****(of course theres more to it) and sending it EA's way. list your damn ideas. :cool:
     

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