Nice guys finish last

[JAK®]

 

[Manic]

It's never a good idea to start off in the Friend Zone and expect to start a relationship from there. You'll either get stuck in the Friend Zone and grow into a bitter idiot who thinks there's something wrong with her instead of you, or you'll break out of the Friend Zone and make a complicated mess of things.

Basically, make your move from the start.

 

[JAK®]

It's never a good idea to start off in the Friend Zone and expect to start a relationship from there. You'll either get stuck in the Friend Zone and grow into a bitter idiot who thinks there's something wrong with her instead of you, or you'll break out of the Friend Zone and make a complicated mess of things.

Basically, make your move from the start.

Yeah, that's sort of one of the points the comic is making.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

The C word works.

Love that ''C'' word.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

MessiahDecoy, you're... you're not of the belief you're a nice guy, are you? Or did you used to be one before dating a heinous b****, and now she's killed your view of all women?

Actions speak louder than words.

Someone could write Mein Kamfp and still treat women nicely.

and I'd like to point out hookers are human beings. They are bound to have things in common with the rest of the human race.

 

[Anita18]

I have no idea what happened in this thread but I will say that truer words were never spoken:

Yeah, but a prerequisite to being a nice guy kinda means you aren't a misogynistic *****e nozzle.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You people still don't know anything about me.

But feel free to judge me as a person based on a half-baked theory I spurted out.

 

[SuperFerret]

You've seemed to have made a habit of talking out of your ass and I'm basing my judgment on that.

 

[JAK®]

Hey, it worked for Jim Carrey.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You've seemed to have made a habit of talking out of your ass and I'm basing my judgment on that.

Everybody here "talks out their ass".

It's called an opinion.

and you tend to disagree with my viewpoints so you're far from a fair judge of me personally.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

The reason "Pimps" are able to control their "Bit*hes" has nothing to do with women in general, it has to do with people in general. People in general can become caught up in cycles of abuse, like how many dogs will not run away from masters who beat them. As long as someone is taking care of you monetarially or whathaveyou, the victim won't tend to stray very far because the abuser has convinced them they are weak without them around. If all women were victims of [major] abuses on a consistent basis then you could equate them to hookers. In fact in some countries women are basically hookers because of how male dominated the society is. To say though that because women you know don't or won't sleep with you that all of them are ****es for bad boys is just wrong.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The reason "Pimps" are able to control their "Bit*hes" has nothing to do with women in general, it has to do with people in general. People in general can become caught up in cycles of abuse, like how many dogs will not run away from masters who beat them. As long as someone is taking care of you monetarially or whathaveyou, the victim won't tend to stray very far because the abuser has convinced them they are weak without them around. If all women were victims of [major] abuses on a consistent basis then you could equate them to hookers. In fact in some countries women are basically hookers because of how male dominated the society is. To say though that because women you know don't or won't sleep with you that all of them are ****es for bad boys is just wrong.

I never said that though.

I'm not saying all women are ****es. I'm just using the pimp-hooker relationship as a microcosm for bad boy attraction in general.

 

[Manic]

Everybody here "talks out their ass".

It's called an opinion.

and you tend to disagree with my viewpoints so you're far from a fair judge of me personally.

Right, and your opinion came off as more than a little misogynistic to some of us. Maybe you're not a misogynist, but that opinion of yours made you look like one. Because it was your opinion.

I'm making a point in using the word "opinion" a lot, since pointing out an obvious opinion and telling everyone that it's an opinion is supposed to stop everyone from arguing it. At least that's the impression I get from the internet. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Manic]

I never said that though.

I'm not saying all women are ****es. I'm just using the pimp-hooker relationship as a microcosm for bad boy attraction in general.

You don't see how comparing the hookers in a pimp-hooker relationship to "most women" comes off as a littlle...?


nevermind

 

[Danalys]

problems with being a nice guy.
you're out numbered, and isolated. a lot of bonding happens over bad behaviour.
your feminine complementary counterparts are rare. these are women not suckered in by things like the game, and also able to judge correctly that your not playing it, and believe that good nature is possible and not faind.

being good is difficult. but being not true to yourself is disastrous.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You don't see how comparing the hookers in a pimp-hooker relationship to "most women" comes off as a littlle...?


nevermind

nope.

I didn't compare the sex habits of hookers to women in general. That would be mysogynist.

I compared their preference for dominant men. Which I think is fair.

 

[Sloth7d]

Most guys who think this aren't actually nice, they're just frustrated that acting nice isn't getting them results.

Or they're frustrated that being themselves never works out for them, and one quality about themselves that they have trouble changing is that they are what is generally considered "nice".

Or they're mistaking 'nice' for being 'be really quiet and all around unimpressive'

I've seen plenty of nice guys who are good at holding conversations and getting women to laugh, but in the end get rejected or locked in the friend zone. What they get rejected for varies, and I'm sure there are some who do confuse being nice with those qualities, but I think it's a little unfair to say "most".

The reason *******s 'win' is that *******s tend to be extroverts.

This, I agree with to an extent. Confidence is a key factor at getting a mate.

 

[terry78]

Honestly, if it's that much work, just find a chick with low self-esteem. Bam, you're set. Sure, it will turn out horribly at some point, but you're getting some ass.

 

[AndThePickles]

There are so many things that could be said in response to various things in this thread, but I don't think I have the energy

 

[Danalys]

nope.

I didn't compare the sex habits of hookers to women in general. That would be mysogynist.

I compared their preference for dominant men. Which I think is fair.

and their problem is that they can only recognise dominance by the abuse of it.

 

[Anubis]

You gotta also take into account the "Taken" way of becoming a prostitute. You know, irresponsible chick gets kidnapped, gang raped and doped up for days until they become dependent on the monster that did it. Not just a foreign thing either. Some pimp in Indiana got busted a couple of years ago doing that s**t. Guess it's their fault for getting Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Mr.Webs]

Thing is, most of these nice guys who complain, are only doing just that. Complaining. Confidence is key. The only way any woman would think your worthy of her is if you think you're worthy of yourself. It all starts and ends with the 'nice guy' in question. Sure, the woman he was after may have been a *****, but it was he who was attracted to said ***** in the first place, so still, his fault and his alone. Harsh maybe but true.

 

[Anubis]

Said nice guys mom was probably a B***h, so by playing the suffering martyr is in a way, allowing them to fulfill their repressed desire to have a relationship with their mother......and it is now my opinion that that is all nice guys. So, if you're a nice guy, you wanna do your mom. Opinion.

 

[Danalys]

You gotta also take into account the "Taken" way of becoming a prostitute. You know, irresponsible chick gets kidnapped, gang raped and doped up for days until they become dependent on the monster that did it. Not just a foreign thing either. Some pimp in Indiana got busted a couple of years ago doing that s**t. Guess it's their fault for getting Stockholm syndrome.

stockholm syndrome isn't some illness you catch it's the result of someone's nature in a particular horrific situation.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah.......in what way was anything I typed saying that it was an illness you catch?