Apocalypse Nightcrawler in the Apocalypse Movie

[CaptainWagner]

How on earth do people have issues with Nightcrawler. How would you do a teenage Nightcrawler?

It's the same thing as Quicksilver from the last movie. Some people just hate period clothing that is ugly by today's standards but was "all the rage" back then.

sweet christmas, is that real???

ughh, just went from being unsure about this film to 100% sure I have no interest
that is atrocious

Seriously? You find a jacket from one scene in the movie tacky, and it kills your entire interest in the movie?

 

[JP]

Nightcrawler being furry is one of those things they say in the comics, but never actually convincingly draw.

 

[Super Jim]

I'm a little worried by the fact that Nightcrawler is even at the mall...

Let's analyze this for a moment...

First, the pic shows the four of them dressed as, well 1980's teenagers, which is fine, since that's what they are. For Scott, Jean and especially Jubilee, I get this. It makes total sense. Afterall, they are american teenagers. But Kurt is supposed to be from Europe. I could get the idea that he's becoming Americanized, but this scene seems to me, for some reason, to be one from eary in the movie.

I guess it's becauseit's at the mall, and for some reason I have to believe that Jubilee will be recruited at the mall, and that her recruitment will happen earlier in the movie.

So why is Kurt there???????

I've alwaysenvisioned Professor X and some of the new team going to Europe to meet/recruit Kurt. I expected a conversation between Professor X and Margali about how he was left at the circus, abandoned by his mother, and that she raised him. I figured they would possibly even show a flashback of baby Kurt being left by his mother, who would later be revealed (at least to the general audience) as Mystique.

But now we have Kurt at the mall in a scene that I'm guessing is early in the movie. maybe I'm wrong, and this will not end up being the Jubilee recruitment scene, but that really does make sense.

I guess it could be a scene from the end of the movie, with the team all happy and going to the mall, but then wouldn't Storm be there?

So no, this has to be an earlier scene.

So why is Kurt at the mall?

With Kurt's appearance he wouldn't just go to the mall and hang out. Obviusly not! So what could be the situations where this would make any sense?

I can only think of three...

1. Kurt is using a holographic device to appear to be a regular kid. But if so, why is Kodi in full make-up?

2. The scene would have Nightcrawler teleorting into a dark area, like the back of a movie theater, where he would be less likely to be seen.

3. They are at the mall at nighttime, when almost no one else would be there.

I'm hating the holographic inducer concept, which again, kind of doesn't make sense since it's not "kodi - Kurt" in the shot.

The movie idea could work, as something could happen, likely with Jubilee, where Kurt would get caught up in things as well. Just thinking that this is not the situation, as wouldn't Kurt be with his team mates at the flick? Actully, maybe that's it? Maybe Kurt, Jean and Scott are all seeing Return of the Jedi together (which would make Kurt a blocker - if you know what I'm saying) and Jubilee causes an explosion at the arcade, which gets the scene and the recruitment of Jubs happening.

Not liking this idea, but I guess it's the best option based on what we're seeing.

Just really not liking the fact that Nightcrawler is at the mall!!!!! It seems to suggest that he may start the movie at the mansion, along with Scott and Jean, which would very possibly mean... No European Circus, which would be an incredibly missed opportuity!

Hopefully I'm not analyzing this crrectly, and that will still happen, butI'm starting to get a littleworried about this story!

 

[JP]

You're in a tizzy over a scene being filmed that you don't know the context of, for a movie you know next to nothing about.

 

[marvelrobbins]

In this film general public has been aware of mutants for 10 years.

There is nothing that says Xavier won't be recruiting students.They may very well cut back and forth with that and apocalypse recruitng his forces.

 

[Super Jim]

^ Are you saying that mutants are 100% accepted by society now to the point that Nightcrawler could just walk around at a mall?

That seems a bit outlandish! I mean, just because Mystqieu didn't shoot Trask or the President doesn't mean that there's no threat when it comes to mutants. Yes, maybe they didn't build the Sentinals in the new timeline, but it's hard for me to believe that mutants would be that widely accepted. I mean, come on, Magneto actually dropped a stadium around the White House!!!

Also, again, just because one mutant may have done something good, that wouldn't prevent all of the anti-mutant sentiment out there with the "normal" people!!!

Also, I've always felt that some of the mutants should already be at the school, while others are shown being recruited. Truthfully, it wouldn't be a great scene seeing Xavier going to the Gray household to convince them to have Jean come to the school, nor would it be that great to see them go to the orphanage to recruit Scott. No, I've always felt that Scott and Jean should be at the school.

But Kurt's recruitmenet could have been amazing! Maybe it'll be in the movie, but I have a feeling he is already at the school, just like Scott and Jean. Yes, we'll likely see Jubilee recruited/saved from something at the mall, and we'll likely get to see Ororo being worshipped in Africa (what a waste is they don't have her as a street thief in Cairo, which would lead into Apocalypse at the Great Pyramid, but anyway...

Yes, we'll likely see at least Ororo recruited, but I don't think we'll see all of them.

Also, this is not a "tizzy". This is legitimate concern due to limited evidence, but evidence nonetheless!

 

[By your Command]

Just some quick things, First, I for one enjoyed the mall picture, they look like the 80's threw up on them? Yes, but to be fair the 80's threw up on everyone and it's gonna be incredibly fun that this will be the X-Men movie where the uniforms are going to look way more normal than their everyday clothes.

Second I like the idea that Nightcrawler is going to the mall in the 80's, the fun thing about the X Men is that they defend a world that hates and fears them, so what better place for weird gazes and bullying than the mall (some throwbacks to the Museum scenes from X2 would be fun too).

On the fact that Storm isn't there, I really hope it's not a "we'll recruit her later" thing, I just hope she's a little bit older than the rest of the kids and she's hanging out with Beast and group B in the Let's go to the mall mission.

PS. No, I would not in any way enjoy holographic devices or blue serums or anything like that for Kurt, just good old fashion mutant bashing in those scenes please.

 

[Super Jim]

^ The difference was/is that in that museum scene there were no blue people. All of the mutants there were normal homesapians, based on appearance, as far as the other vistors were concerned.

To me, the X-Men have always been about, and need to always be about, mutants being feared (and hated - by some).

The moment you take that away is the moment the dicotomy of Eric and Charles is nulified. They've always been the two sides of the same coin, with the humans fearing them on the edge. Take that away and there's no need for the coin...

Any world where people are different, and that difference includes having the ability to drop mountains on a city or mess with your mind or control the weather, is one where those who are "normal" fear those who are not. That fear doesn't just go away because some blue chick dropped a gun! In this logical world where the "norms" fear those with power a blue dude would not be just walking around at the mall. If that's what this scene is?... well, that's not the X-Men!

 

[Weather Witch]

The moment you take that away is the moment the dicotomy of Eric and Charles is nulified.

Actually I wouldn't mind if from now one whenever we see Magneto (which shouldn't be too often after Apocalypse) they have him at the side of the X-Men.
We've had enough stories with Magento as the villain and Magneto betraying the X-Men.

 

[By your Command]

But Super Jim, one must not confuse the fact that he went to the mall with the fact that he's not being feared or hated, while I have no idea what's really gonna happen in that scene, I'm most definitely sure of the fact that him being there will have repercussions. I mean in X2 the kids were being feared just because one had a weird tongue and another one was trying to stop a fire with his freezing powers, being blue out in the open will very likely be adressed as well.

 

[EnDz0n3]

1) He'll have a German accent.

2) This is an X-men movie. They will never be accepted.

 

[Smilodon]

I don't want to spoil anything but one of the set photos said

Spoiler

that there was an 'M-Day Sale' or whatever

, which could indicate how mutants kinda are in 1983.

 

[BoredGuy]

Seriously? You find a jacket from one scene in the movie tacky, and it kills your entire interest in the movie?

No, I find all of the outfits (maybe minus jubilee) from this scene to be beyond tacky, that, when added to my apprehension about casting and writer choices, and my general distaste for the period elements of FC and DOFP, leads me to no longer have much interest in seeing the film. The trailers will decide one way or the other, but at this point, it is not looking like I will spend my money on this in theaters, as I didn't with FC.

The one plus I can potentially see coming from the 80's motif??
Punk Rock storm

 

[BeholdMe]

No, I find all of the outfits (maybe minus jubilee) from this scene to be beyond tacky, that, when added to my apprehension about casting and writer choices, and my general distaste for the period elements of FC and DOFP, leads me to no longer have much interest in seeing the film. The trailers will decide one way or the other, but at this point, it is not looking like I will spend my money on this in theaters, as I didn't with FC.

The one plus I can potentially see coming from the 80's motif??
Punk Rock storm

Your saying the clothes are tacky but this is what people back in those days and it was all the rage, so to be disinterested in something so petty means you couldn't have had much interest in the movie to begin with. It takes places in the 80's are you expecting current trends, they fit the era they are in.

 

[BoredGuy]

Not everyone in the 80's dressed like a Cyndi Lauper extra
shocking, I know

I just feel if you want to achieve a more accurate period feel, it's better to go a little more subtle with the costuming and not "teased hair! neon colors! giant socks! side pony tails!"

but subtlety has been soreley lacking in the design of the past 3 X-films

 

[Super Jim]

But Super Jim, one must not confuse the fact that he went to the mall with the fact that he's not being feared or hated, while I have no idea what's really gonna happen in that scene, I'm most definitely sure of the fact that him being there will have repercussions. I mean in X2 the kids were being feared just because one had a weird tongue and another one was trying to stop a fire with his freezing powers, being blue out in the open will very likely be adressed as well.

Guess what I'm saying is if they live in a world where mutants are still feared and/or hated, why would Kurt go into public? That just doesn't make any sense!

Unless they are going to try to make the aftermath of DoFP a world where mutants are no longer feared. As I explained above, that's just not a believable world. Again, just because some blue chick dropped a gun on tv wouldn't make it so people didn't fear the power that mutants have. And if that's what Singer and Kinberg try to make us believe I'll be very, very disappointed!

This "M-Day sale" concerns me. Hopefully that's supposed to mean Memroial Day and not Mutant Day Sale. If that's what this is... argh!

 

[Codex Tesseract]

Sorry if this is old news (These threads move fast!) but there's a blurry pic of him and some others on set. What troubled me wasn't so much the 80's hair as the Michael Jackson jacket...

 

[JP]

Not everyone in the 80's dressed like a Cyndi Lauper extra
shocking, I know

I just feel if you want to achieve a more accurate period feel, it's better to go a little more subtle with the costuming and not "teased hair! neon colors! giant socks! side pony tails!"

I'm not seeing any of that...

 

[BoredGuy]

we call that "exaggeration"

idk, it's just too on-the-nose for my tastes

 

[BeholdMe]

Not everyone in the 80's dressed like a Cyndi Lauper extra
shocking, I know

I just feel if you want to achieve a more accurate period feel, it's better to go a little more subtle with the costuming and not "teased hair! neon colors! giant socks! side pony tails!"

but subtlety has been soreley lacking in the design of the past 3 X-films

None of them look like Cyndi Lauper so idk were your going with that. You don't want them to look like the era they are it's nothing over the top with what they are doing. It was the 80's and so far they are capturing it well so your not going to see a movie based on that fact is beyond ridiculous as I stated before.

 

[Obsidian Idea]

If indeed Kurt is walking about with friends, blue-skinned for all to see, then I'd say mutants are common place knowledge but they can still be heavily discriminated against.

DOFP basically exposed mutants to the world, so we will have a new dynamic going forward as opposed to the OT timeline. I think Singer is going to portray them as group in society that is accepted and by some, persecuted by others.

Then Apoc shows up and turns everything on its head.

 

[BoredGuy]

w.e, don't know why I even bother

 

[BeholdMe]

w.e, don't know why I even bother

First off keep it cute or keep it on mute, I was being nice. Yea just don't bother because you make no sense to what you are saying. Don't come for me

 

[Sithborg]

No, I find all of the outfits (maybe minus jubilee) from this scene to be beyond tacky, that, when added to my apprehension about casting and writer choices, and my general distaste for the period elements of FC and DOFP, leads me to no longer have much interest in seeing the film. The trailers will decide one way or the other, but at this point, it is not looking like I will spend my money on this in theaters, as I didn't with FC.

The one plus I can potentially see coming from the 80's motif??
Punk Rock storm

I'm just curious as to what the issue with Cyke and Jean are. Outside of Cyke's glasses, I'm not really sure what is so out there in their costumes. Cyke will always be a bit tacky, with the red shades. But, I'm not going to lie, I love that they are adding color to the glasses.

 

[BoredGuy]

I'm just curious as to what the issue with Cyke and Jean are. Outside of Cyke's glasses, I'm not really sure what is so out there in their costumes. Cyke will always be a bit tacky, with the red shades. But, I'm not going to lie, I love that they are adding color to the glasses.

Jean, I don't really mind
Cyke, it's the glasses and jacket combo, he just looks silly
Nightcrawler, don't even start me on the thriller jacket

just looks too "this is what I think the 80's looked like" imo

First off keep it cute or keep it on mute, I was being nice. Yea just don't bother because you make no sense to what you are saying. Don't come for me

Seriously..?
I am not "coming for you", I was stating my frustration at people ignoring the points I was trying to make, as you've clearly done
chill out there, bro