Concept Art:
The suit:
Cgi:
It's especially baffling in Far From Home and Homecoming, the CG suits in those films aren't even a different design from the practical one, so why waste money CG'ing the suit in shots where the suit doesn't need any CGI?I love Tom and really like HC and FFH, but my god do I HATE his suit and the way it looks in these new films..... That last picture legitimately makes me physically angry, lol. Like, that pic of Tom right above it in the suit, looks INFINITELY better than that abomination underneath it lol. I know I obviously sound hyperbolic, but it really is that bad to me lol. Even his physique looks worse in the CG final form. Especially the shoulders
2nd to last pic -- THAT'S Spider-man
Last pic -- that's unfortunately dogs*t, and video game crap lol. It just frustrates me so much because it's so unnecessary, and imo seriously almost ruins otherwise solid movies
it happened a lot with the older movies too yeah?The unnecessary use of CGI has been the most difficult thing for me to come to terms with this new series. There's no good reason for Spider-Man's costume to be CGI'd during simply choreographed scenes. It's quite distracting and takes away from the designers' incredible work.
I liked that shot of Spidey climbing up the Washington Monument in the Homecoming trailer a lot but then in the movie it was replaced by a ****ing CGI Spidey climbing that didn't look as good at all. Boggles my mind.
it happened a lot with the older movies too yeah?
I think it was all CGI till he splashed. but tbh I liked the CGI look there.
That it's a huge grind to have so many CG shots is part of what frustrates me about it, that it looks worse just makes it insulting to boot. The vfx artists already have a huge mountain of work ahead of them purely because of the type of film this is, there's no need to add a whole bunch of pointless CG shots of Spidey just standing around where the goal is what? To replace the non-CG suit with an identical CG suit? It's a waste of time and resources and the result is worse. And those shots are generally in softly lit scenes, which makes matching the lighting to the original incredibly difficult because the tiniest imperfections will be fully visible and can kill the illusion instantly.I don't really care about cg and I try to be empathetic to the fact that it's a grind. Even great VFX houses will suffer under a small budget or condensed time frame. So long as it isn't some egregious sorta thing, I'm less concerned with aesthetics than I am with usage.
In the case of this Spidey series, the cg suit has been distracting. Like he will just be standing there, looking weightless. And I don't really get why they make the choice to use cg there. But that's more on the director than the VFX house.
I literally never noticed any of the CGI you guys are talking about, so I guess I'm just glad my subconscious mind isn't as picky as yours about what it detects as real. And I'm guessing the reason the decision to use CGI was made is because the people making that decision have similarly lax realness-detection-abilities, or at least they expect most of the audience to.
Maybe that's because it's just used the entire film (or close to 100%), so there aren't a lot of real suit/practical effects to compare it with
And seriously not trying to be a smart*ss, but did you grow up with either Tobey or Andrew's movies? I could just understand younger people maybe not caring as much about Tom's costume if they weren't brought up on the earlier films that featured a real life suit a lot more, and didn't see such a huge step backwards, CG/Suit wise, from the 2 past franchises to the current one.
But either way that's great it doesn't bother you or that you don't even notice it Don't get me wrong, I still love Tom and I still really like the new films. The suit just really upsets me, because it (meaninglessly) takes away such a fun, imo fundamental part of the enjoyment of watching a Spider-man movie... namely, seeing what Spidey would actually look like in real life, ha
I grew up with Tobey. I mostly skipped Andrew (watched the first one once on TV and never saw the second) though.
I guess I've just never been super sensitive to CGI unless it's a human face or just really, really bad. Though thinking back on it now I do remember noticing when certain scenes in the Tobey movies would transition from real to CGI (though it still didn't bother me). Not so much because the CGI looked fake to me, but because the CGI looked more "perfect" while the real scenes had more flaws (flaws in terms of how much less fluidly Peter moved, how much less precisely he interacted with his environment, or how his costume might be randomly wrinkled or scrunched a bit or whatever other imperfections might crop up here or there) Maybe you're right in that since it's used so much in the MCU there's no contrast that stands out. Maybe that's why they used CGI even in static shots, to avoid that sense of inconsistency when switching from real to CGI and back again?
it happened a lot with the older movies too yeah?
I think it was all CGI till he splashed. but tbh I liked the CGI look there.
the budget for the second movie was about $60 million more than the firstIt’s amazing how different Spider-Man 2 looks compared to Spider-Man 1. You would think there was a five year gap between the two films.
even though it's widely disliked, I'd highly recommend watching TASM2 sometime. I personally love it, lol, but the freakin action, and Spidey movements/action, and CGI, are out of this world
I'll definitely be giving Andrew's Spidey a second shot now that we're getting this crossover. Back then I was still super bitter about the reboot so I didn't really give it a fair shake. But now that all three Spidey's are part of the same multiverse, it kinda feels like one big happy family.
They also got the guy who did the Cinematography for The Matrix Trilogy to do 2 & 3 as well.the budget for the second movie was about $60 million more than the first
Similar for me, I was completely ready to write off TASM, I'd heavily disliked the trailers, I wanted SM4 instead, and would've skipped it at the theaters if my friends hadn't wanted to go see it and talked me into going, so glad that I went though, Andrew ended up being my favorite Spidey, and TASM is still my favorite live action Spider-Man film.I hear ya. I was soo bitter about the reboot too when they announced it. And I remember going into ASM1 so ready and determined to hate it ha. Which is why I was surprised that I ended up loving the TASM films and Andrew's time with the character (still bitter about not getting SM4 tho lol)
Similar for me, I was completely ready to write off TASM, I'd heavily disliked the trailers, I wanted SM4 instead, and would've skipped it at the theaters if my friends hadn't wanted to go see it and talked me into going, so glad that I went though, Andrew ended up being my favorite Spidey, and TASM is still my favorite live action Spider-Man film.