The Good Guy Bane meme is great
I can't decide who is more "evil": Bane or Talia. Right now, I'm leaning towards Talia. She has zero redeeming qualities to me. Both are still ruthless though.
Two-Face is really the only sympathetic villain for me. I guess a case can be made for Ra's (albeit weak). The Joker is not sympathetic but he is charming as hell.
The way she friend zoned Bane, that was pretty evil.I think Talia is 100 times more evil. She's a woman born into terrible circumstances, but she escaped and grew up into a woman of beauty and wealth.
She had ability and opportunity to do good in the world, but instead chose to inflict death and destruction on a massive scale.
By contrast, Bane suffered an injury that disfigured him and left him dependent on drugs that have to be administered through a mask. His life has been one of undeserved suffering and imprisonment. That kind of life would transform almost anyone into a hateful, bitter monster.
To me, Bane's villainy seems more a product of the environment he grew up in, whereas Talia's evil seems more of a conscious choice.
I thought Bane was a pedo...which makes him even less sympathetic. His thing with Talia is definitely...weird.
Because obviously any older male that shows any sign of affection towards a younger female can only be based on sexual attraction.How exactly was he a pedo? What? Because he saved a child's life?
How exactly was he a pedo? What? Because he saved a child's life?
How exactly was he a pedo? What? Because he saved a child's life?
I don't necessarily believe that Bane was in love with Talia. From what was implied in the movie, Bane loved Talia likely as a little sister/surrogate daughter -- he was her protector/guardian. Whether or not more developed between the two while Ra's and Talia were both trained by The League of Shadows, that remains unknown to the viewer. It's basically left up to interpretation.
He tried to nuke Gotham in Batman and Robin 16#
In terms of "evil" I'd say Nolan's villains would be ranked like:
Joker
Talia
Bane
Ra's
Two-Face.
Joker was essentially mephistopheles, the Devil or rather the closest thing in Nolan's world. His entire goal was proving that people were essentially as twisted and evil as he was. He kills randomly and without reason. No redeemable qualities whatsoever.
Talia was an absolute nihilist, she was damaged first by her experiences in the pit and then by her time with Ra's. Ultimately she seemed like a sociopath and was fully prepared to burn 12 million people in order to end her own miserable existence.
Bane had been presumably born and raised within the pit, and suffered unimaginable cruelties on a near daily basis. He fought and killed just to survive, and yet he proved that he still had a basic sense of humanity left when he chose to protect an innocent child. Now we can brush that off in light of his actions in Gotham but if we really look at it, this is a man who has never been shown any form of kindness in his life yet still manages to show some, even at the risk of his own survival-basically going against everything he's learnt in the pit. Now he was still brutal and cruel, that's undeniable but given all the facts I think that this is a man who was desperate to try and find reason with his life, he found it in The League of Shadows and now follows it,and Talia, to the extremes. I'd say he's a complex guy. More so than Joker and Talia.
Ra's al Ghul. Now this man was an extremist and a fanatic who's methods were absolutely deplorable yet he seemed like he genuinely wanted to make the world a better place, he, like Bruce, wanted to ensure that no one else suffered like he did. He was just too lost in his own pain to realize that the methods he used made him the very thing he was fighting.
Two-Face is THE text book tragic villain. He starts as a man who truly believes in the system and the decency of others. It's not until the Joker sinks his teeth into him and takes away all that he loves that he absolutely loses faith in all systems in all people, yet even at his very worst, he still tries to hold onto some semblance of justice, in the form of his coin. This was a good man who others failed.
I don't necessarily believe that Bane was in love with Talia. From what was implied in the movie, Bane loved Talia likely as a little sister/surrogate daughter -- he was her protector/guardian. Whether or not more developed between the two while Ra's and Talia were both trained by The League of Shadows, that remains unknown to the viewer. It's basically left up to interpretation.
yeah Blake is the most sympathetic villain I've seen yet