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yea i am sure marvel is going to market the film just right over seas. they probably been thinking of all this stuff already.
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Just to drop in my 2 cents...
I completely understand Ace and our other foreign friends' perspectives on this. We certainly don't want the film to come off as propoganda. However, I still think it's a mistake to water it down for overseas audiences.
GI Joe did that, and it was just straight awful. I guarantee more people would've seen that movie if they maintained the feel and characters of the show.
Cap may not be the most well known character ever, but he is pretty well known nonetheless. He's no more 'Pro-American' than Superman, and if it turns off foreign audiences that his name is Captain America, well then that is just awfully shallow on your part, Europe....lol
Bottom Line is, if the movie is good, foreign audiences will get behind it, in spite of the name.
If it's not, it'll bomb everywhere.
And if I'm completely wrong and international audiences boycott it just because they hate us.... well then f*** 'em, movies make plenty of money domestically
Just teasin man, relax.
hehe if i was American i'd find him an embarrasment.
It's not ********... at all.
You are saying that people who read comics are in the majority? ******** on a stick.
So what if Captain America has been published all over the world? People who don't read comics (the vast majority) won't know about the real character of Steve Rogers.
They'll see some guy called Captain AMERICA in some cheesy stars and stripes costume and roll their eyes.
And you ignored the point i was making. Transformers, big giant robots smashing the **** out of each other, can be a universally entertaining thing. Whether you are a fan of the source material or not. The concept of Transformers itself is not a exclusively America thing. People around the world can blot out Bay's jingoistic tendancies because it's got giant robots smashing the **** out of each other.
An America soldier draped in the stars and stripes in WWII won't be universally entertaining to people who don't know what he is really about. Seeing as most American war movies already lie about history to make America look better what would make people who don't know about Captain America think any different? In fact on first glance they'd think it is the worst example of it ever.
Be honest with yourself. If you was French or Chinese or British and you didn't have a clue about the character of Captain America... wouldn't you find him utterly ridiculous and eye roll worthy on first sight? Of course you ****ing would! So don't try to deny it.
The way to counter this is by having clever trailers. Maybe show Cap at the USO show being paraded around like a propaganda tool. Then show a scene with Steve being embarrassed by all the hoopla and ridiculousness of it or something. Show that Steve Rogers himself isn't some jingoistic *****e bag. Show that Steve Rogers is a hero for all the world... not just America.
It's a tricky thing, this film can fail miserably worldwide, if they amp the america part too much. I can tell you a film called CAPTAIN AMERICA, won't go too well over here in the UK, alot of my friends already get annoyed when american films do the whole blatant flag wave thing in films. (like that shot of spidey in front of the american flag in spider-man 3) They will hafto be very careful in marketing this film.
I'm going to have to disagree with anyone who says Cap isn't well known. I think he's pretty damn well known outside of the United States; well liked is another isssue, but people definitely know who Captain America is.
My experience in the U.K. is that it's generally only comicbook fans and gamers who know Cap.
Most people I've shared my excitement about the Cap movie with (work collegues, friends and relatives) just either go 'who?' or just nod and go 'ooooh, yeah. right........which one is he again?'. Some certainly recognise the name but actually show them Cap and they wouldnt have a clue who it was.
It's a tricky thing, this film can fail miserably worldwide, if they amp the america part too much. I can tell you a film called CAPTAIN AMERICA, won't go too well over here in the UK, alot of my friends already get annoyed when american films do the whole blatant flag wave thing in films. (like that shot of spidey in front of the american flag in spider-man 3) They will hafto be very careful in marketing this film.