First Avenger Non American Fans of Captain America

[Webhead2006]

i said it before, i am sure they are going to strike a good balance of patriotism and appeal to world wide audiences too.

 

[Rage]

I live in Canada and I know a few people that are fans of Captain America. A buddy of mine is tattooing a Cap tattoo on some guys leg this weekend. I think that people become a fan of character through the Avengers (when you are not American) and that then translates over to his solo title. I became a fan when John Byrne drew Cap and the Avengers and have been a fan ever since.

 

[jacross]

Rage, see if you can get a photo of the tat from your buddy. I'm thinking of getting one and am looking for ideas.

 

[TNC9852002]

Hmmm, it never really occurred to me how such a character like "Captain America" would be viewed through the eyes of non-American viewers and how it may impact sales..

Hmmm

 

[Galactus123]

Im from Finland and Im huge fan of Captain America.

 

[Rage]

Rage, see if you can get a photo of the tat from your buddy. I'm thinking of getting one and am looking for ideas.

Looking in to it.... I'll see if the person will allow him to take a photo and let me post it here.

 

[misjuevos]

They should just have a Cap Corps! America, Britain, Canada, France, Italy, etc.

so far there is cap wearing the flag(us) union jack and cap britain wil have to fight over who is the uk's cap. then guardian from alpha flight is wearing the flag. sunfire from japan is wearing or was wearing the flag.there was a russian cap i saw in war machine he had a shield and everthing. and it seemed like a russian alpha flight team, there was a bear instead of sasquatch. anyway marvel is on its way to making a symbol for every country to embrace. seems pretty cool they have really delve deeper into international stuff than dc and makes the marvel universe seem more like a planet of heroes, instead of one super team.
it would be cool if further down the line each country would make their own "avengers" type movie with their heroes. subtitles of course.

 

[BoredGuy]

Rage, see if you can get a photo of the tat from your buddy. I'm thinking of getting one and am looking for ideas.

I have a beat up version of Cap's shield on my shoulder!

I'm 'merican tho..

 

[Shivsguy616]

I can't really see people here in Ireland being turned off by the title. Cap is well known enough here. Not like Spider-man, Iron Man, or the X-men, but in a more vague way. After all, we do have the restaurant chain "Captain America's."

 

[The Infernal]

I can't really see people here in Ireland being turned off by the title. Cap is well known enough here. Not like Spider-man, Iron Man, or the X-men, but in a more vague way. After all, we do have the restaurant chain "Captain America's."

You're having us on, right? Is it just a coincidence with the name or some or some bizarro idea that somehow was carried out in Ireland? Y'know, like "let's build the Titanic". j/k

Captian America and his patriotism is largely a non-issue. If the film is good people will easily go and see it. I mean it's not like the film will pull an 'U-571' on us.

 

[topdog1]

I live in Canada and I know a few people that are fans of Captain America. A buddy of mine is tattooing a Cap tattoo on some guys leg this weekend. I think that people become a fan of character through the Avengers (when you are not American) and that then translates over to his solo title. I became a fan when John Byrne drew Cap and the Avengers and have been a fan ever since.

And if they made an Alpha Flight movie, I wouldn't expect them to tone down Canadian references or pride.

This film should be a golden opportunity to remind the world what America meant to it during WWII and that's really it. Why shrink away from that??? You'd think all the creators of the film would embrace and promote THAT at any rate.

 

[Project862006]

^ sure if they want a sure fire Box Office BOMB

 

[The Infernal]

I don't think he meant the 'we saved your ass' cliche, rather the 'we are in this together' feeling of some old WW2 movies.

 

[The Question]

Well, I am an American fan of Captain America, but I do have a thought to contribute: I think Captain America will do well in the foreign market, because while he is about America and he is a soldier, he's not about politics or the military. What he's about, what he both symbolically represents and what he as an individual strives for, is the ideas present in America's constitution and declaration of independents. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. He's the guy who fought in the civil war specifically to free the slaves. He's the gut who fought the Nazis and Imperial Japan and the Italian fascists because it was the right thing to do. No other agenda.

And that will go over anywhere. Especially because, forgetting for a moment some of the less pleasant aspects of U.S. history, the fact is that U.S. political and social philosophy has had a huge impact on the rest of the world. The success of the American Revolution was a major inspiration for the French Revolution. Didn't end quite as well, but it inspired a push for democracy. And look at the world today. I can count the number of monarchies on two hands, and most dictatorships at least put up the pretense of some form of democracy in order to look good. I can't say that the U.S. is solely responsible for the shift in global opinion towards "democracy is awesome," but the fact is that's how most people think. Despite the shortcomings of some of America's less than satisfactory political administrations (or even the shortcomings of our best political administrations), the fact is that the ideas that our government and culture were built upon and that most average folks at least strive towards, those are things anyone who isn't a fascist, imperialist, or monarchist can get behind. And a character who dedicates his life to preserving those ideas for everyone, regardless of nationality, I think people will like him.

Of course, this depends on wether or not the movie blows chunks.

 

[Shivsguy616]

You're having us on, right? Is it just a coincidence with the name or some or some bizarro idea that somehow was carried out in Ireland? Y'know, like "let's build the Titanic". j/k

... I don't follow...

 

[Shivsguy616]

I can count the number of monarchies on two hands ...

Big hands! There's currently 44 monarchies in the world.

 

[The Infernal]

... I don't follow...

I meant were the restaraunts named for him or was the name a coincedence and they had know other association with the character? Forget the joke about the Titanic. It was a lame insert.

Big hands! There's currently 44 monarchies in the world.

Thank you Wikipedia.

 

[Shivsguy616]

I meant were the restaraunts named for him or was the name a coincedence and they had know other association with the character. Forget the joke about the Titanic. It was a lame insert.

Lol, no, they are named after him. He's on the logo.

One in each of Cork, Dublin and Tallaght, I think.

 

[The Infernal]

Lol. If I ever take the trip over to Ireland I know what I'm looking for.

 

[The Question]

Big hands! There's currently 44 monarchies in the world.

I'm not counting constitutional monarchies. England is a democracy that puts a lot of importance on tradition.

 

[Shivsguy616]

I'm not counting constitutional monarchies.

Might've mentioned it then.

 

[The Question]

Might've mentioned it then.

I should have said absolute monarchies. I thought the fact that I was talking about the prominence of democracy implied it.

 

[Shivsguy616]

I should have said absolute monarchies. I thought the fact that I was talking about the prominence of democracy implied it.

You should've, and it did ... but it's a slow day!

 

[Rage]

And if they made an Alpha Flight movie, I wouldn't expect them to tone down Canadian references or pride.

This film should be a golden opportunity to remind the world what America meant to it during WWII and that's really it. Why shrink away from that??? You'd think all the creators of the film would embrace and promote THAT at any rate.

I would expect it to be saturated with Canadian content and a lot of self-deprecating humour. But I don't think that it would be full of Canadian patriotism... While Canadians are patriotic... we do not hold a candle to the level of patriotism that the average american does. Trust me. I've lived in both countries and the US has, by far, more patriotism.

A question posed to my high school social studies class was: What nationality are you? Out of a class of 30 students, we had a variety of answers. Norwegian, African, German, Korean... the list went on and on. But only one kid in the class answered "Canadian" Our teacher said that he read about this and the same question was asked of an American social studies class and all but one of them answered "American"

The problem with a movie about Captain America is that people outside of comics will see this character as a pro-america character and not what he really is... someone who stands for the ideals that America was founded on.

With all the American-haters out there... having a movie based on something considered so overtly American and patriotic, the backlash could be huge. I hope not. I want this movie to do well, so Avengers and CA2 get fast tracked.

 

[Rage]

Lol, no, they are named after him. He's on the logo.

One in each of Cork, Dublin and Tallaght, I think.

That is Awesome! Are they very popular?