November 6th, 2012: Campaigning, Early Voting, Election Day, And The Results! II

[Arc-Light]

Yeah and you (like most of his supporters) think nothing is ever his fault.

Actually it is a fear of Europe's market ( Germany) but of course neo-cons don't understand facts....

 

[Kelly]

They seemed to like Dubya.

Well, when you can speak their language, when you have met them repeatedly face to face...when your brother is married to an hispanic woman, and you speak so highly of her and her family. When you show them some respect....it is amazing that that will do for you.

 

[SV Fan]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Record-number-Hispanic-voters-head-polls.html

Looks like Obama is even more popular with Asians(73-26) then Latinos(71-27)

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Actually it is a fear of Europe's market ( Germany) but of course neo-cons don't understand facts....

1. Not conservative. Registered Independent. Voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12. Hi.

2. The fear had as much to do with Obama's continued spending and tax increases. Which have yet to work and only made matter worse. But of course liberals don't understand facts...

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Republicans can't simply appeal to older white men and win.

They need the youth, minorities and women.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

1. Not conservative. Registered Independent. Voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12. Hi.

2. The fear had as much to do with Obama's continued spending and tax increases. Which have yet to work and only made matter worse. But of course liberals don't understand facts...

How much did Obama raise taxes? Really.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

1. Not conservative. Registered Independent. Voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12. Hi.

2. The fear had as much to do with Obama's continued spending and tax increases. Which have yet to work and only made matter worse. But of course liberals don't understand facts...

Obama raised taxes? When?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Raising taxes on the upper-class (which he has said he will do) and continuing his spending.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Raising taxes on the upper-class (which he has said he will do) and continuing his spending.

I fail to see how that's a bad thing

 

[SV Fan]

Raising taxes on the upper-class (which he has said he will do) and continuing his spending.

The Republicans put the kibosh on that, and put everybody making 250K and under as hostage until Obama agreed to renew the Bush tax cuts for everybody

 

[Excel]

People did the same thing regarding Democrats following 2000. The Republican Party isn't dead. They are no where near Whig level. If the economy double dips, they will probably make gains in 2014.

I expect gains in 2014 anyway. The EC may say 332-206, but it was only about 160,000 out of the 110 million votes cast which which made the difference between 272-266 and what it ended up being. O can not walk away from this feeling overly loved. Not be a downer, but its true. This election is hardly a sign of Democrat's popularity. Though it is a sign of how bad the republicans are. Between now and 2014, there is going to be a wave of moderate Republicans emerging. I think unemployment gets better, along with Obama's approval ratings. But spending will still be too high. I think a wave of younger, more moderate Republicans will soon begin emmerging.

Brit Hume had the best take of the night. You look at Romney and what a weak candidate he is, and how close the race really was in the swing states. They all broke Obama's way, but Republicans have to look at FLA, OHIO, and Virginia, and think they were winnable, which in 2008 they really weren't. Hume just basically said, it is impossible to look at the map & look at the #s and think that a socially liberal, fiscally responsible, normal & personable candidate would not have beaten Obama. Exit polls all said they favor smaller government, they favor less spending, they dislike Obamacare, etc etc etc etc and yet he still won. This was more about Romney & espec. the modern Republican party platform being THAT incompetent than Obama being THAT impressive.

Too bad for the republicans; I doubt a presidential election is the winnable for them for at least the next 8 years.

 

[Arc-Light]

1. Not conservative. Registered Independent. Voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12. Hi.

2. The fear had as much to do with Obama's continued spending and tax increases. Which have yet to work and only made matter worse. But of course liberals don't understand facts...

No, it was Europe, i know how much you want it the other way but it was the fear that Germany couldn't control their stock market...

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

No, it was Europe, i know how much you want it the other way but it was the fear that Germany couldn't control their stock market...

I know how much you want it to be the other way but it was said to be a number of factors. Including both what you and I said. Hi.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Ben Stein even went on Fox News and said the taxes on the rich need to go up, and he's not exactly a liberal.

 

[Pink Ranger]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Record-number-Hispanic-voters-head-polls.html

Looks like Obama is even more popular with Asians(73-26) then Latinos(71-27)

Obama is the closest thing we'll get to an Asian US president.

1. He has a funny sounding name.

2. His parents pushed him academically.

3. A lot of people can't accept that he was born an American.

 

[Excel]

The dow gained 66% under Obama's first four years. Blame him for todays drop if you wish, blame him for the 66% increase as well.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Obama is the closest thing we'll get to an Asian US president.

1. He has a funny sounding name.

2. His parents pushed him academically.

3. A lot of people can't accept that he was born an American.

This despite the fact that his mother and grandparents were White folks from Kansas.

 

[Marvolo]

This despite the fact that his mother and grandparents were White folks from Kansas.

Doesnt really matter. I have a friend whos parents are american but she has a green card. Her father was in the military stationed in germany. His wife was off base when she went into labor so my friend was born on german soil and because of it didnt gain american nationality. It was a cluster****. Her father got moved back here when she was young. She has a green card and couldnt even donate blood because of it.

Point being Obama's entirely family could be american but if he wasnt born on US soil he isnt eligible to be president. That is where the argument comes from.

 

[Kelly]

The dow gained 66% under Obama's first four years. Blame him for todays drop if you wish, blame him for the 66% increase as well.

I don't blame the drop today on Obama, anymore than I specifically pat him on the back for the 66% gain in the Dow....that could just as easily happened in spite of what he "tried" to do, but couldn't get it passed Congress....I can blame it on that just as well.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Republicans can't simply appeal to older white men and win.

They need the youth, minorities and women.

Just think of how much of the female vote the Democrats would get in 2016 if Hilary is the Democratic nominee? It would probably be like Obama and the Black vote: over 90%.

 

[Kelly]

Just think of how much of the female vote the Democrats would get in 2016 if Hilary is the Democratic nominee? It would probably be like Obama and the Black vote: over 90%.

Yeah, but she would probably lose in "male votes" what she gained in female....some men are VERY AFRAID of strong, aggressive women.

 

[Schlosser85]

1. Not conservative. Registered Independent. Voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12. Hi.

2. The fear had as much to do with Obama's continued spending and tax increases. Which have yet to work and only made matter worse. But of course liberals don't understand facts...

Really not needed.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Okay. But under Obama's vision of the county we are not a free society so that is a moot point.

This is a ridiculous claim to make. Of course we are a free society. How are we not? Because you have to buy healthcare? Or is it because under Obama, religious types can't impose their morality on the rest of us?

Give me a break.

 

[Holiday]

This is a ridiculous claim to make. Of course we are a free society. How are we not? Because you have to buy healthcare? Or is it because under Obama, religious types can't impose their morality on the rest of us?

Give me a break.

We don't have the right to keep all of our earned wages. That alone keeps us from being a truly free society. Unless you have a different definition of free society that I do. Being forced to buy healthcare is not freedom.

Also, I have no interest in see religious people imposing their morality on others. I'm not even a religious person myself. That's a nice try Nell, but nothing I've ever said on the Hype should have led you to believe that.

 

[Matt Mortem]

We don't have the right to keep all of our earned wages. That alone keeps us from being a truly free society. Unless you have a different definition of free society that I do. Being forced to buy healthcare is not freedom.

So all that stuff that tax dollars pay for you could just do without, right?