wiegeabo
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So all that stuff that tax dollars pay for you could just do without, right?
You get them in a different way.
And there are probably some you can do without.
So all that stuff that tax dollars pay for you could just do without, right?
1. Well, the healthcare makes it affordable so, I'm for it. The reason I'm uninsured right now is because the private insurance companies want too much money to cover me and my family.Really?
1. Mandated government run healthcare.
2. Taxation to fund government run education and welfare programs.
3. Medical marijuana crackdowns and the rest of the drug war.
4. We can't even drink unpasteurized milk if we choose to.
5. And for the ladies, under Obama's vision government should be involved in every aspect of their lives:
http://www.barackobama.com/life-of-julia/
We have more freedoms than most and I am thankful for that, but the democratic vision for a free society is not truly that.
So all that stuff that tax dollars pay for you could just do without, right?
And how would you propose the government pay for those things?Roads and bridges, local police force, military, no, I can't do without some things from government.
Pell grants allowed me to go back to school to get an education, so that I can be a productive member of society that can pay taxes and give back to this society that gave to me, instead of being a bum living off the welfare system because I can't get more than a minimum wage job.
I think Pell grants are a very positive thing that lead us to being a freer society.
1. Well, the healthcare makes it affordable so, I'm for it. The reason I'm uninsured right now is because the private insurance companies want too much money to cover me and my family.
2. You would prefer private education that not everyone can afford, or just not have it paid for by taxes? Are you advocating eliminating welfare as well, or just that it's funded by tax dollars?
3. You want to eliminate the laws regarding illegal drugs?
4. Yes you can. The Amish sell it all over Pennsylvania. It's legality is decided from state to state.
5. That outlines the opportunities that she would have access to, not how she would be controlled.
Roads and bridges, local police force, military, no, I can't do without some things from government.
Other things, like someone's pell grant, or foodstamps, or cell phone, or farm subsidy... yeah, I can absolutely do without those things.
And how would you propose the government pay for those things?
Pell grants allowed me to go back to school to get an education, so that I can be a productive member of society that can pay taxes and give back to this society that gave to me, instead of being a bum living off the welfare system because I can't get more than a minimum wage job.
I think Pell grants are a very positive thing that lead us to being a freer society.
I think farm subsidies are a good thing. It helps keep farms that grow our food in business. It's not easy, or cheap, to keep a farm going. I know, I have a farm, and I get subsidies for the hay fields I grow.
I think farm subsidies are a good thing. It helps keep farms that grow our food in business. It's not easy, or cheap, to keep a farm going. I know, I have a farm, and I get subsidies for the hay fields I grow.
That and get rid of the ridiculous subsidized crop known as corn. God, every animal is corn fed. So hard to find grass fed beef and what not.
It's going to cost some American workers to have their hours reduced to under 30 or more a week. I hope you're for that too. That's not the point though, insurance mandates are not freedom.
Source?
I can't answer the question you're asking on education. I think public education is a failure and more choices for parents is the way to go. How that is done is beyond my knowledge on the subject.
I didn't think you would have an answer but, if you want to offer more options to parents, you're going to need to come up with ways to pay for them.
Eliminate government welfare? Yes. Overnight? No. But eventually, yes, I would like government welfare done away with and handled by private charities.
Private charities already do as much as they can. The problem is, they rely totally on the generosity of others. As I'm sure you are already well aware, not everyone is that generous. I seriously doubt you would be able to fund any kind of public welfare program strictly from private charities.
Back to my point though, when money is taken by force from one group to give to another, that is a violation of freedom. Whatever it's for. Someones foodstamps or some wall street ***hole's bonus.
And yet, in your next post you say you're not against taxation. Which is it?
Illegal drug laws? If freedom is the name of the game, how can we have laws telling us what to do with our bodies?
The problem with certain drugs is that they don't just effect your body. Look at the families of a drug addict. Certain drugs not only destroy your body and your life but, put you in a position to ruin the lives of those around you. As a result, they are either made illegal or they are regulated.
Regarding raw milk, the Obama administration has been cracking down on those that sell it in some states. Shouldn't they be free to sell it to those that want to buy it?
There's a reason milk is pasteurized. Doing so reduces the risk of disease. This is a situation where the government isn't so much telling you what you can and can't do as it is trying to protect a large portion of it's citizens. This is what the FDA is for. Just take a minute and imagine an outbreak of E. coli from the mass production of raw milk.
I can agree that we are not a totally free society. However, I don't think I would want to live in a totally free society. Why? Because a totally free society is one with rules, and a society without rules will fairly quickly tear itself apart.
Obama won. Romney's sons basically owned the voting machines and Obama won. Does that mean we can set aside all of the voting machines are fixed conspiracy theories?
I say the next election be done by a show of hands.can we just get rid of all the ****ing voting machines and be done with it?
Obama won. Romney's sons basically owned the voting machines and Obama won. Does that mean we can set aside all of the voting machines are fixed conspiracy theories?
I can agree that we are not a totally free society. However, I don't think I would want to live in a totally free society. Why? Because a totally free society is one with rules, and a society without rules will fairly quickly tear itself apart.
I can agree that we are not a totally free society. However, I don't think I would want to live in a totally free society. Why? Because a totally free society is one with rules, and a society without rules will fairly quickly tear itself apart.