to put it bluntly, if a person can't connect the dots between Piccolo revealing that Goku is actually an alien, then seeing an after credits cliffhanger involving an alien spacecraft with someone that looks human inside then that person wouldn't be too bright. regardless, it would spark more curiosity than simply revealing that Piccolo is alive. after all, even outside the DBverse, characters come back to life all the time.
again...we already know that Piccolo tells Goku about his alien ancestry. i don't think showing a Saiyan space ship would be spoiling much of anything other than that there will be new villains for the sequel. it's not like they'd be spoiling important plot points from the SCRIPT of the sequel.
well then that's their mistake. unless you already have an outline for a sequel or a trilogy then you shouldn't make a movie with the assumption that you're going to be making a sequel to it...which is why i don't think they should've even included a cliffhanger ending. it actually feeds my theory that they were trying to mold this into a Transformers-type movie (Starscream leaving Earth's atmosphere in the middle of the credits).
i'm upset that they didn't get quality talent on this film. Goku going to high school, no Krillin, Roshi looking like the Bulletproof Monk........all these things i could possibly forgive IF THEY THREW SOME REAL TALENT BEHIND THIS MESS!!! in this day and age of entertainment, the villain coming back to life is one of the most predictable cliche's and it certainly doesn't work in this circumstance considering (according to many reviews) that Piccolo doesn't even really seem DEAD at the end.
really ? so bad?I watched/listened and squinted to the 9 minute video of the final battle that is up on youtube, I have to say Chatwin is horrendous
so in the leaked scene goku didnt transform from oozaru?
exactly my point....it's so predictable that it shouldn't even be considered a spoiler. however, hinting at a Saiyan presence for the sequel would mean something to the fans while intriguing non-fans and sparking their curiosity as to what that cliffhanger means. it would entice them to want to see the next film more to figure out what this new element to the story is. Piccolo's already been done, we know his story...so why make it even more obvious that he's going to come back? it's the very definition of treating the viewers like they're kids. i understand that this age group is what this movie is made for but did they really make a movie JUST for kids???
as i said, even if they don't understand why the cliffhanger was shown it would spark more of an interest simply because it's a new element. they've already seen Piccolo so it's no surprise that he's coming back. they didn't show a cliffhanger for the first LotR movie that showed Gandalf coming back to life. so when the general audience saw the first trailer with Gandalf the White coming back they were actually surprised.
i don't believe that they have a rough outline for a trilogy. it's hard enough to believe they had a rough outline for the events of THIS film. when i say rough outline, i mean more like a SOLID outline. they didn't even have enough time or talent to properly right THIS script, so i seriously doubt that they really know what they wanted to do with the sequels before they made this film.
okay fair enough, but my problem with the scene isn't even so much that they showed Piccolo. it's the fact that they make it so blatantly obvious that he'll be back. they don't show Piccolo's lifeless body with a mysterious silhouette walking up to him or something more subtle. they show Piccolo being served a bowl of soup. it's not a hint or even really a cliffhanger, that's a straight up spoiler.
