Official 2007-08 NBA Thread

[Ben Urich]

Can he play shooting guard?
If so he should play back up to Jay Jay the Jet Plane (thats me!).

At 6'10", he's best suited to playing in the frontcourt. If he's going to stray from his natural small-forward position, it'll be to play the four.

Our shooting guards are Redick, Keyon Dooling (who can also play the point) and -- gulp -- Keith Bogans.

I'd keep Hedo though. He's a good player even though he's fairly inconsistent. But I'd hate for you guys to lose him and he goes to another team that would make him play better.

He's good and his contract doesn't overpay him too grossly - about $5 million a season. Any team in need of three-point shooting (Rekal? You listening?) could take a chance on him.

What is the NBA Salary Cap? Is it 53M?

It hasn't been set for this season yet, but whatever it is, the Cavs are over it. Last year, their payroll was basically $63 million. The following Cavaliers "earned" $5 million+ last season:

• Larry Hughes
• Zydrunas Ilgauskas
• Drew Gooden
• Eric Snow
• LeBron James
• Donyell Marshall

Ilgauskas and Hughes don't come off the books until 2010. They combine to eat $22 million of cap space each season.

Soooooooooo yeah. Good luck with that Gerald Wallace thing.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

It hasn't been set for this season yet, but whatever it is, the Cavs are over it. Last year, their payroll was basically $63 million. The following Cavaliers "earned" $5 million+ last season:

• Larry Hughes
• Zydrunas Ilgauskas
• Drew Gooden
• Eric Snow
• LeBron James
• Donyell Marshall

Ilgauskas and Hughes don't come off the books until 2010. They combine to eat $22 million of cap space each season.

Soooooooooo yeah. Good luck with that Gerald Wallace thing.

Just found what each of the Cavs are making. I don't usually follow much of the salaries. Larry Hughes is making 13.3M? That seems to be a little too much. I guess signing Gerald Wallace isn't going to happen.

Varejao didn't impress me last season. I don't care what people say.

 

[Ben Urich]

Just found what each of the Cavs are making. I don't usually follow much of the salaries. Larry Hughes is making 13.3M? That seems to be a little too much. I guess signing Gerald Wallace isn't going to happen.

Varejao didn't impress me last season. I don't care what people say.

Yeah, Hughes is a prime example of the kind of guy you DON'T want to give a max deal to. He made more than double what B-b-b-billups made last season.

 

[Ben Urich]

Bobcats Re-Sign Carroll for Six Years, $27 Million

That's actually a fairly reasonable price. $3.5 mill a year for 12 points and 42% from downtown.... solid.

 

[L.A.]

Grant Hill, who fell short of expectations in six injury-marred seasons with Orlando, has decided to sign a free-agent contract with the Phoenix Suns.


The move continues an overhaul of the Magic lineup and shores up the small forward position for Phoenix.

Hill's agent, Lon Babby, said Thursday that Hill has agreed in principle to a two-year deal -- known as a bi-annual exception -- for $1.8 million this season and almost $2 million in 2008-09 at the player's option. Teams can offer $1.2 million as the mid-level exception for veterans, but can offer the bigger $1.8 million bi-annually.

The deal will not be considered official until July 11, the first day free agents are allowed to officially sign new contracts.

Hill also considered the Pistons, Heat, Mavs and Spurs but ultimately chose the Suns because of their ability to give him a meaningful role on the team and a chance at a championship.

"Obviously money wasn't the biggest factor here," Babby said. "He had offers for a lot more money. Grant wants a chance to win a championship and he wanted to go to a place that would give him a chance to contribute. Phoenix was the perfect fit."

Hill gives Phoenix some help at small forward after the team traded away James Jones on draft night. Hill should challenge Boris Diaw for the starting small forward role.

Despite Hill joining the team, the Suns' future remains rather murky at this point. While they have been a contender every year since Steve Nash joined the team, uncertainty remains around the roster for the 2007-08 season.

The team has been heavily involved in Kevin Garnett trade rumors this summer. In almost every scenario that has leaked, players like Shawn Marion or Amare Stoudemire could potentially head to other teams. It is still unclear how Hill's signing will affect the Suns' thinking about trading Marion or Stoudemire or trading for Garnett.

Suns owner Robert Sarver would like new Suns general manager Steve Kerr to trim around $10 million in payroll this summer in order to avoid paying the league's luxury tax -- another factor that might influence the team's decision-making.

Hill's decision to leave the Magic ends a long, tortured relationship with the franchise. When Hill joined the team in 2000 (along with free agent Tracy McGrady) in a sign-and-trade with Detroit, people were talking about winning championships. However, complications from ankle surgery in the summer of 2000 derailed Hill's career.

In his six seasons with the Magic, Hill played more than 30 games in a season only twice. In total, Hill played in only 200 of the 492 total regular-season games the Magic played while he was under contract for $93 million.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I was just reading about Grant Hill signing with the Suns. It's a shocker for me and I'm sure a shocker for the Orlando fanbase. Guess he wants to go to a team where he isn't carrying the offensive load and can get some much needed rest.

I, on the other hand, think it's a great pick up for Phoenix. Grant can score, is a decent defender, and can play the point guard position when it's called upon him to do so. I think if Phoenix can keep their core the same by keeping Amare, Marion, Bell, Nash, Diaw, and Barbosa they'll always be a favorite at going all the way to the championship.

Adding Hill to the mix only helps their chances in my opinion.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I was just reading about Grant Hill signing with the Suns. It's a shocker for me and I'm sure a shocker for the Orlando fanbase. Guess he wants to go to a team where he isn't carrying the offensive load and can get some much needed rest.

I, on the other hand, think it's a great pick up for Phoenix. Grant can score, is a decent defender, and can play the point guard position when it's called upon him to do so. I think if Phoenix can keep their core the same by keeping Amare, Marion, Bell, Nash, Diaw, and Barbosa they'll always be a favorite at going all the way to the championship.

Adding Hill to the mix only helps their chances in my opinion.

Seconded

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I've always liked Grant though. He seems like a really down to earth, intelligent, and nice guy who really enjoys what he does and has had some setbacks in his career.

Hopefully his run in Phoenix will be a great one.

 

[Dark Donnie]

Smush might want to start looking for condos elsewhere:

J-Crit took his number.

I think Smush is gone.


Nice Rashard Lewis signing

How I wish the Sixers had cap room

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I think Smush is gone.


Nice Rashard Lewis signing

How I wish the Sixers had cap room

I may know a lot about basketball in terms of the concepts and all, but I'll admit I know nothing about the business side of it. Is there anyway to free up cap space? Like can't the Sixers free up some space by getting rid of ridiculous contracts?

 

[Dark Donnie]

I may know a lot about basketball in terms of the concepts and all, but I'll admit I know nothing about the business side of it. Is there anyway to free up cap space? Like can't the Sixers free up some space by getting rid of ridiculous contracts?

Im pretty sure with Basketball its all guaranteed contracts, unlike football where they can cut a guy and the team doesn't owe them a dime. If you sign a 4 yr 40 mil contract that team owes you all that money. If a team cuts a player before the end of the contract that team will take some sort of cap hit For instance the Sixers are still paying Chris Weber and Aaron Mckie through next year. McKie has been retired for a year or two and Weber was released during last season.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

 

[moraldeficiency]

I may know a lot about basketball in terms of the concepts and all, but I'll admit I know nothing about the business side of it. Is there anyway to free up cap space? Like can't the Sixers free up some space by getting rid of ridiculous contracts?

There's actually a ton of loopholes to get some space:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nba_salary_cap

 

[Ben Urich]

I was just reading about Grant Hill signing with the Suns. It's a shocker for me and I'm sure a shocker for the Orlando fanbase. Guess he wants to go to a team where he isn't carrying the offensive load and can get some much needed rest.

I, on the other hand, think it's a great pick up for Phoenix. Grant can score, is a decent defender, and can play the point guard position when it's called upon him to do so. I think if Phoenix can keep their core the same by keeping Amare, Marion, Bell, Nash, Diaw, and Barbosa they'll always be a favorite at going all the way to the championship.

Adding Hill to the mix only helps their chances in my opinion.

It's a good move for Phoenix, but it doesn't shock me at all. Apparently, covering the Finals for ABC made him really want to play in them, so going to the Suns makes sense. He averaged 14 points per game last season with Jameer FREAKING Nelson as his point guard, so I imagine he could reach 18-20 with Steve Nash.

Hopefully his run in Phoenix will be a great one.

I hope so as well.

I may know a lot about basketball in terms of the concepts and all, but I'll admit I know nothing about the business side of it. Is there anyway to free up cap space? Like can't the Sixers free up some space by getting rid of ridiculous contracts?

Teams that are over the salary cap can use a mid-level exception (MLE) once each off-season. It's worth about $6 million per season. The Raptors recently used theirs on Jason Kapono.

 

[Fran]

Trade Rasheed and $ for KG. Do it, Dumars.

You know you want to.

 

[Ben Urich]

News from teams that have fans in this thread:
Dallas has reached an agreement with Jerry Stackhouse. They'll now focus their attention on Gerald Wallace, P.J. Brown, James Posey, Matt Barnes o), and Joe Smith.

The Heat are in talks with point guards Mo Williams, Steve Blake, and Jason Hart.

The Cavaliers are going to have to make a tough decision on Anderson Varejao. If he brings back an offer sheet for more than the mid-level exception, they will try to work a sign-and-trade deal for him. Additionally, the Cavs may pursue Morris Peterson.

The Bulls may lose Andres Nocioni to the Grizzlies, who have made him an attractive offer. Pau Gasol called Nocioni to make a personal sales pitch. Meanwhile, GM John Paxson denied that he's talked to the Grizzlies about trading for Gasol.

Finally, no truth to the rumor that the Magic and Kings have had discussions involving a trade featuring Hedo Turkoglu and Ron Artest. up

 

[Mister J]

I just don't all the Mo Williams hype. Nice player, but some people are going crazy over this cat. He also appears to want more than the MLE. I rather have Blake, though Jason Hart would be the cheapest. While all this PG talk is going on (and rightfully so), I hope the Heatians brass are still looking into bringing in another scorer in the frontcourt.

 

[Ben Urich]

I just don't all the Mo Williams hype. Nice player, but some people are going crazy over this cat. He also appears to want more than the MLE. I rather have Blake, though Jason Hart would be the cheapest. While all this PG talk is going on (and rightfully so), I hope the Heatians brass are still looking into bringing in another scorer in the frontcourt.

Williams is going to ask for about $8 million or so, and Blake's the better poing guard anyway. It's just another point in his favor, really.
Jason Hart played well once he was freed from the Kings last season.
Brevin Knight hasn't been contacted, but he said he'd keep the line open if Miami called. They should do so. Dude is SERIOUSLY underrated. Like, when he touches the ball, there's a 36% chance that he will record an assist. He did that last year in Charlotte, of all places. Imagine if all he had to do was hit Shaq on the left block or Posey in one of the corners.

 

[Ghostvirus]

The Bulls may lose Andres Nocioni to the Grizzlies, who have made him an attractive offer. Pau Gasol called Nocioni to make a personal sales pitch. Meanwhile, GM John Paxson denied that he's talked to the Grizzlies about trading for Gasol.

I am a little confused by this. I am pretty sure that Nocioni isn't a free agent, so what the heck is the Grizziles exactly trying to do? Get Nocioni to talk Paxson to trade him to Memphis for Gasol? Me confused.

 

[Mister J]

I wouldn't Brevin if he comes on the cheap, but I much rather have Blake. He was the central figure in the largest high school recruiting scandal in Florida history (in which he was banned from playing in the state his senior year). The irony of him playing for the Heat is too good not to come to fruition.

 

[Mister J]

I am a little confused by this. I am pretty sure that Nocioni isn't a free agent, so what the heck is the Grizziles exactly trying to do? Get Nocioni to talk Paxson to trade him to Memphis for Gasol? Me confused.

He's a restricted free agent. I hear there's a 5Y/37M deal on the table from Chicago, but he's being courted by the Griz too.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Son of a b**ch!

 

[Mister J]

I liked it better when you said 'son of a ****e'.

 

[Fran]

Son of a biscuit!

 

[Ghostvirus]

Son of a ****e!

 

[Mister J]