Official Batman Titles thread 2.0 - - - Part 12

[Assassin]

It completely destroyed the issue for me. I wonder who's idea that was Lobdell or Snyder's? since it's obvious setup for the upcoming Joker story. Either way that type of contrivance is really unnecessary but the new 52 has been a haven of contrivances all around so it's not even that surprising.

waiting for the superman lawsuit to be over so we can go back to red underwear, "S" curls, 5 robins and 4 Batgirls

 

[Scarecrow_King]

at least they made Jason's resurrection a Lazarus Pit instead of Superboy Prime punching reality.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Don't worry. Lobdell will forget he said it by #14.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Does Superboy Prime even exist anymore?
Or has he been killed to death?

 

[HighFivingMF]

at least they made Jason's resurrection a Lazarus Pit instead of Superboy Prime punching reality.

Winnick already did that before the New 52. But this version doesn't involve Jason banging his surrogate Father's baby mama.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Winnick already did that before the New 52. But this version doesn't involve Jason banging his surrogate Father's baby mama.

Didn't Winnick make it a combination of the two? The reality punch actually brought him back to life, but he was catatonic and an amnesiac before Talia dumped him in the pit.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Skimmed Catwoman. She cries like once a page.

 

[Assassin]

Didn't Winnick make it a combination of the two? The reality punch actually brought him back to life, but he was catatonic and an amnesiac before Talia dumped him in the pit.

yes

 

[Rexian]

You know, the issue started out okay for me. Sure, I was pissed that Jason didn't steal the tires and that Thompkins was responsible for Bruce taking him in, rather than the man choosing himself. But I dealt with it. Plus, they allowed him to be resurrected via the Lazarus Pit and his mother was still involved in his death.

Then. That. Stupid. Second. Part. Happened.


I also read Nightwing #0. Dick's origin was about the same, other than the orphanage allowing Dick to have a part-time job at Bruce's manor. (Why was that even added?) But something keeps bothering me. It's just so weird to see Dick in his mid-teens and his parents still alive. It only reminds me how condensed the Batman-Robin relationships have become. I keep replacing the 52 reality with my own because.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

You know, the issue started out okay for me. Sure, I was pissed that Jason didn't steal the tires and that Thompkins was responsible for Bruce taking him in, rather than the man choosing himself. But I dealt with it. Plus, they allowed him to be resurrected via the Lazarus Pit and his mother was still involved in his death.

Then. That. Stupid. Second. Part. Happened.


I also read Nightwing #0. Dick's origin was about the same, other than the orphanage allowing Dick to have a part-time job at Bruce's manor. (Why was that even added?) But something keeps bothering me. It's just so weird to see Dick in his mid-teens and his parents still alive. It only reminds me how condensed the Batman-Robin relationships have become. I keep replacing the 52 reality with my own because.

I've had my own continuity for a few years now and I find it works best if I personally ignore an gaffes by writers and chalk it up to, "well, it's a comic book."

Bruce is Batman at 25. He adopts Dick when Dick is 13. Dick becomes Nightwing at 18, at which point Bruce is 31. Jason is killed when Bruce is 33/34, Tim adopts the Robin mantle when Bruce is 34. Damian becomes Robin when Bruce turns 39. That would put Dick around 27/28 and Tim around 18/19 right now.

It works in my brain.

 

[Hush]

I really liked Nightwing #0.

 

[RoughNTumble]

red hood was okay until i got to the second part

then I did a back flip

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I hated Nightwing #0. Haven't read Red Hood yet, but apparently they're changing the origins for every single Robin. ****, they took half of Tim's origin and gave it to Dick.

Spoiler

Figuring out who Batman was. Being technologically savvy. Even a connection to Lady Shiva.

Tim is no longer special. He's just a ****ing clone of Dick.

And the costume sucked. (But that's par for the New 52 course.)

edit: got around to Red Hood. It's a bit astounding how good the first half was, but how bad the second half was. It left way more questions than answers, on top of just being a horrible idea. Lobdell has a great feel for Jason's voice, though. And apart from the Batmobile tires, his origin/Death in the Family seems to still be intact. Plus, his Robin costume is a thousand times better than Dick's was.

 

[RoughNTumble]

I couldn't make it more than halfway through nightwing. Not because it was terrible, just because I'm getting exhausted with all these mediocre writers changing things around just enough so that the universe feels more like a cheap imitation with every issue, and not enough that it's new and exciting. The sheer arrogance of them to think that anyone is going to care enough about these stories that they're going to forget the stories as they were written the first time around, and most of them during a time when people still cared about comics.

They might be seeing a short term sales boost, but it's at the cost of diluting a long term product.

 

[Hush]

I didn't think that Dick was seen as being a Tech wiz? I thought he just knew basic stuff that a member of the bat family would. He was shown reading newspapers online at one point, I can do that.

 

[Mystirious]

Batwoman #0 looked like a reprint

of Batwoman #0 from last year

there was nothing new, we saw all of this in Detective or the original #0

None of it was in Batwoman issue zero last year though...

There was stuff from the origin story in it though. But i liked learning new details about stuff like her training to be Batwoman and having it narrated by Kate gave us a nice look at her feelings about the things she's been through and how they have shaped her

I thought the narration being in the form of a message to her dad was very sweet as well

I really liked the issue

Joker got his dad killed in jail, overdosed his mother to appear she was dead, so that Batman would eventually find this kid roaming the streets and take him in. This time it wasn't Todd stealing the wheels from the Batmobile, he was escaping from hospital from a beat down on the streets(which Joker planned).

Whut

So Joker somehow knew that all this random stuff would result in him being Robin?

No

Do not want

 

[Motown Marvel]

the back up story in batman zero was awesome. the main story was dumb though.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm looking forward to Riddler, Poison Ivy and Clayface all showing up in the Batman comic books in december

I've been wanting to see more of his classic rogues and it should be good

Hope Riddler has kept his classic look in the new dcu

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I've had my own continuity for a few years now and I find it works best if I personally ignore an gaffes by writers and chalk it up to, "well, it's a comic book."

Bruce is Batman at 25. He adopts Dick when Dick is 13. Dick becomes Nightwing at 18, at which point Bruce is 31. Jason is killed when Bruce is 33/34, Tim adopts the Robin mantle when Bruce is 34. Damian becomes Robin when Bruce turns 39. That would put Dick around 27/28 and Tim around 18/19 right now.

It works in my brain.

I've got a continuity that is the offspring of a greasy orgy between old and new DC.

Immediately before #1- Batman Inc disbanded
6 months ago- Batman Inc founded
18 months ago- Dick becomes Batman
20 months ago- Damian appears
2 years ago- Jason resurfaces
3 years ago- Jason dies, months later Tim becomes Robin
4 years ago- Jason becomes Robin, Dick becomes Nightwing
7 years ago- Dick becomes Robin, Batman given signal from Gordon
9 years ago- Bruce adopts "Batman" persona
10 years ago- Bruce attempts to fight crime, using those gadgets, Damian is born
11 years ago- Bruce bangs Talia
14 years ago- Bruce Wayne disappears
17 years ago- Tim Drake is born
20 years ago- Jason Todd is born
23 years ago- Dick Grayson is born, Thomas & Martha killed
31 years ago- Bruce Wayne is born

 

[Lord]

Bruce meeting Talia before becoming Batman seems to be what makes more sence.

 

[Mystirious]

Bruce was already Batman when he got Talia pregnant though

I think it must have happened in his first year as Batman

 

[Lord]

Didn't Morrison's original story kind of contradict Son of the demon already?

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Yup.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I still like to think that he would have met Ra's during his training.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I've had my own continuity for a few years now and I find it works best if I personally ignore an gaffes by writers and chalk it up to, "well, it's a comic book."

Bruce is Batman at 25. He adopts Dick when Dick is 13. Dick becomes Nightwing at 18, at which point Bruce is 31. Jason is killed when Bruce is 33/34, Tim adopts the Robin mantle when Bruce is 34. Damian becomes Robin when Bruce turns 39. That would put Dick around 27/28 and Tim around 18/19 right now.

It works in my brain.

That's kind of how it was before DC rebooted everything. Now Batman continuity is just a mess where we have a 10 year old Damian who was conceived by Talia and Bruce while he was Batman and yet, Bruce has been Batman for only 6 years.