Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Bastila]

This is from the recent Ultimate X-Men Annual... these panels made me fangirl giggle -- I thought it was adorkable so I wanted to share:

Spoiler

During a fight, Nightcrawler bamfed him into the air and Cyclops is softening the ground to land on.

I liked that part, its cool.

 

[Pizzaboy1138]

Wow, a Cyclops who actually uses his blasts!

 

[ntcrawler]

Ntcrawler in your story he could use this method to jump from the top of the building where the x jet is and land among his fellow xmen on the ground floor

that's exactly what I did for Scott's entrance. Leaps off the roof and uses his optic beats to slow down for a semi-graceful landing. I just wasn't sure it would work. Glad to know that it does

 

[WideAwake]

ntcrawler, I don't know how your fanfic is going to play out, but will Rogue and Angel make an appereance in the final battle as well? That would be quite a lot of entires in a battle

How about the Brotherhood storming forward towards the lab, while suddenly, there is a bright flash of red. From a hole in the building step Cyclops, hand at his visor, sided by Storm and Wolverine, and followed by Beast, Iceman, Rogue, Angel, Kitty and Colossus. That would really show Cyclops as the leader of the X Men.

I was watching a bit of the first X Men today, the extended version, and I thought it was quite refreshing. It wasn't as fast-paced as X3, and the whole team was there, including Cyclops. I especially like his little scenes: the one where he teaches some kids about the working of a motorcycle, and Jean takes his hand, and where he tells Wolverine to put on a uniform.
In this movie, he really comes across as silently confident. He doesn't flinch when Wolverine grabs him by his clothes in Xavier's office, or when he gets called a ****.

 

[ntcrawler]

ntcrawler, I don't know how your fanfic is going to play out, but will Rogue and Angel make an appereance in the final battle as well? That would be quite a lot of entires in a battle

My friend, did you really thing the real Rogue would give up everything the good people at the mansion taught her, all her lessons about being accepted for who she is, coming to grips with herself and coping with her gifts just so she can have sex with a boy? :P

How about the Brotherhood storming forward towards the lab, while suddenly, there is a bright flash of red. From a hole in the building step Cyclops, hand at his visor, sided by Storm and Wolverine, and followed by Beast, Iceman, Rogue, Angel, Kitty and Colossus. That would really show Cyclops as the leader of the X Men.

I don't have him shoot a wall in the building, no. The X-Men generally try to avoid causing massive property damage, haha. They make their entrance in a manner similar to what you see in the movie: everyone has their characteristic way of descinding down to the bottom level in front of the building. As leader, Cyclops goes last and has his own gimmick for getting down:

Wolverine: Hey Scooter, how are you getting down there?

Scott: I'll use the stairs, Logan.

Everyone notices his arrival, especially Magneto and a certain red-headed someone who experiences her 2nd biggest shock of the night. He'll be doing plenty to show that not only is he the leader of the X-men, but a damn good one too. To do it any other way, would be disrespectful to everything he worked for and stands for, no?

I was watching a bit of the first X Men today, the extended version, and I thought it was quite refreshing. It wasn't as fast-paced as X3, and the whole team was there, including Cyclops.

It brings tears to my eyes to see X1 and X2. Not only because those stories actually "work" and you see the chars act the way they're supposed to, but also because you know they're alive and you feel sad knowing that we're starving for footage and for a while there won't be anymore.

And yes, I understand the slower pace and it makes sense if you think about it. The X-Men isn't just about fighting villains and saving the day. Alot of what they do also involves quieter, calmer moments. The kinds of battles that don't involve super powers or violence. Unfortunately not many people can appreciate that. They just assume the X-Men are ordinairy superheroes who fly around and fight crime and evil wherever it lurks and rescue cats stuck in trees for little old ladies.

I especially like his little scenes: the one where he teaches some kids about the working of a motorcycle, and Jean takes his hand, and where he tells Wolverine to put on a uniform.
In this movie, he really comes across as silently confident. He doesn't flinch when Wolverine grabs him by his clothes in Xavier's office, or when he gets called a ****.

Exactly. Cyclops is good at what he does not only because he has a natural talent for it, but because he has been doing it for years and this is a role that he slowly grew into. From the very very beginning he was there. Especially regarding his relationship with Jean. I'm almost finished with reading a 500-page prequel novel called "An Accidental Interception of Fate". If you think them holding hands together during the autoshop class scene was touching, lemme tell you that is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg. This story is written by someone who not only understands the X-men, but also men and women, relationships, and what it takes for a trusting, mature relationship to succeed. Scott and Jean took years in order to get together and give each other their hearts. It's been a slow, sometimes painful journey full of disappointments and frustrations (and lots of stubborness), yet they both persevered, first as big sister / little brother, then as friends, then best friends, then confidants, then drifting apart, then once again friends, then confidants, and then... and then Jean is still stubborn, but Scott's always there for her, especially during times of terrible crisis when no one else has a chance to save her. It really makes you appreciate what they had to go through and how happy they are to be together and just what they mean to each other. And I'm sorry, but after reading something like this, to even insist that out of nowhere comes along Wolverine and thinks he has a chance in hell to win Jean over because he "claims" to understand her is a complete insult to the entire concept of love or what a relationship is or what Scott and Jean truly mean to each other.

 

[triplefive]

So he CAN use his force blasts to slow down his landing. Excellent!

I put it in a spoilertag underneath, but I guess it wasn't very obvious it was there -- I'm pretty sure he's just obliterating the ground beneath him for a softer landing.

 

[triplefive]

Wow, a Cyclops who actually uses his blasts!

Haha, are you reading Civil War: X-Men?

 

[ntcrawler]

I put it in a spoilertag underneath, but I guess it wasn't very obvious it was there -- I'm pretty sure he's just obliterating the ground beneath him for a softer landing.

Can't he disperse his force blasts into a wider arc? I thought he could control the width of the beam too and not just his intensity. For cutting chiseling or playing mutant-billiards

 

[gambitfire]

good to know the Cyke love is still alive

 

[SCOTT&JEAN]

good to know the Cyke love is still alive

Of course it is! And it will always be that way!

 

[MsNatchios]

Exactly. Scott's not the type of guy who's the drop dead gorgeous type. He's an ophan, nicknamed Slim with wears weird red glasses. He's a dork.

I get he's no Warren Worrthington III, but I swear I heard Wolverine snidely call him "pretty boy" a few times in the comics and the '90s cartoon. Anyway, that's why I always assumed he was a looker. I know he was a scrawny kid, hence "Slim" but Jim Lee's version of Cyclops totally obliterated that nickname. Astonishing Scott is pretty ordinary looking but Ultimate Scott is definitely purdy, or at least they draw him out to be.

 

[triplefive]

Scott's always been drawn with a great body and a good, square jaw. He may be a dork, but he's not an ugly duckling.

 

[MsNatchios]

Scott's always been drawn with a great body and a good, square jaw. He may be a dork, but he's not an ugly duckling.

Define dork.

http://househippo.org/images/wallpaper_emmascott.jpg

 

[triplefive]

Just because he's in bed with Emma means he's not a dork? I don't think the two are related.
He's my favourite character, and he's definitely dorky. It's the boy scout thing -- makes him endearing.

 

[MsNatchios]

Just because he's in bed with Emma means he's not a dork? I don't think the two are related.
He's my favourite character, and he's definitely dorky. It's the boy scout thing -- makes him endearing.

Fair enough. The bottom left pic of him is actually more Abercrombie than Math Club. But yeah I guess he'll always have that inner dork thing.

 

[ntcrawler]

Just because he's in bed with Emma means he's not a dork? I don't think the two are related.
He's my favourite character, and he's definitely dorky. It's the boy scout thing -- makes him endearing.

With just enough cocky attitude and a boyish maniacal grin to make him interesting, and a coolness under battle that has few equals.

 

[Mother_Askani]

Define dork.

http://househippo.org/images/wallpaper_emmascott.jpg

That's Endsong, where everyone looks like they're models (and all the women look like they're straight out of Playboy).

I've gotta do it: Drooling Scott..

If you look at the classic Claremont issues, Scott's not the super-stud. He's not Marsden-level in looks. The idea of Emma being with someone like Scott is just crazy. She'd be with Warren, based on looks.

Of course, the only time I've ever been able to even tolerate Scott is when he was Slym Dayspring, but that's a whole different story altogether.

Marsden's Cyke just comes off as just an arrogant, pretty boy jerk, and that's not why X-fans have come to love to hate Scott. He's earned that reputation from years and years of making stupid blunders. And if they had him as that type of character in the movie, I think Cyke would have been far more popular. Marsden was just miscast.

 

[triplefive]

The idea of Emma being with someone like Scott is just crazy. She'd be with Warren, based on looks.

I always see gorgeous girls with mediocre boyfriends.


Anyway, pretty much the entire group was "miscast", in that they don't match their comic book counterparts that much. And in the movies, Cyclops wasn't intended to be the strong hero/leader -- that's what Wolverine was for. He was just a plot device to use to build Logan's character.

 

[WorthyStevens]

The idea of Emma being with someone like Scott is just crazy. She'd be with Warren, based on looks.

Solely on looks, they would be a perfect match.

But Emma pairs better with a guy like Scott. Warren is more along the lines of being like the cocky jock, and Emma - if I'm not mistaken - doesn't really fit well with that.

 

[ntcrawler]

Solely on looks, they would be a perfect match.

But Emma pairs better with a guy like Scott. Warren is more along the lines of being like the cocky jock, and Emma - if I'm not mistaken - doesn't really fit well with that.

They both can be cocky and full of themselves. that either makes them the perfect couple, or a conflict of interest. Arguing who's on top, etc. but then again Scott has that same problem too. Jean was more... accomodating. Emma is great, and has her moments, but she's just not as... likeable or sincere as Jean, you know? And even though she has a few fun gimmicks to show her love for Scott, like turning into diamond so he can show her his eyes and just absorb the blast without damage, it's not the same. Jean could actually stop them and let them face each other with no ruby quartz. Emma, try as she might, just cannot beat that.

 

[ntcrawler]

I always see gorgeous girls with mediocre boyfriends.


Anyway, pretty much the entire group was "miscast", in that they don't match their comic book counterparts that much. And in the movies, Cyclops wasn't intended to be the strong hero/leader -- that's what Wolverine was for. He was just a plot device to use to build Logan's character.

Makes you want to see a picture of the char holding up a sign. "I am not a plot device!" Same with Storm. "I am not a remote control for the weather!"

 

[WorthyStevens]

They both can be cocky and full of themselves. that either makes them the perfect couple, or a conflict of interest. Arguing who's on top, etc. but then again Scott has that same problem too.

It would be more of a conflict of interest. Not to mention that Emma isn't even Warren's type. He prefers more down to earth women, such as Candy Southern.

Jean was more... accomodating. Emma is great, and has her moments, but she's just not as... likeable or sincere as Jean, you know? And even though she has a few fun gimmicks to show her love for Scott, like turning into diamond so he can show her his eyes and just absorb the blast without damage, it's not the same. Jean could actually stop them and let them face each other with no ruby quartz. Emma, try as she might, just cannot beat that.

Oh yeah, Jean will always be Scott's one and only soulmate. Emma doesn't come close.

 

[triplefive]

Do any other Marsden fans here live near Toronto? I just realized Hairspray is filming here. I'm totally going to check out that set -- they redressed an entire intersection (Dundas and Roncesvalles) to look like 60s Baltimore.

 

[pedro parkero]

i saw the movie interstate 60, the movie was crappy but james was gorgeous (as always) anyway, he plays an artist and comic book fan, in one scene he lift something up and an x-men comic is under it, who is on the cover?? jean! i thought it was cute, he was channeling his inner cy

Hmmm... I only remember the optic-blasting Cyclops solo cover on the table...
His character there is cool. He has a Spider-Man tie...

And yeah, the whole movie is cool. But I can understand why a woman would be bored though. It IS a guy's roadtrip. (Maybe the ultimate roadtrip, I'd say...)

 

[MsNatchios]

That's Endsong, where everyone looks like they're models (and all the women look like they're straight out of Playboy).

I've gotta do it: Drooling Scott..

If you look at the classic Claremont issues, Scott's not the super-stud. He's not Marsden-level in looks. The idea of Emma being with someone like Scott is just crazy. She'd be with Warren, based on looks.

Of course, the only time I've ever been able to even tolerate Scott is when he was Slym Dayspring, but that's a whole different story altogether.

Marsden's Cyke just comes off as just an arrogant, pretty boy jerk, and that's not why X-fans have come to love to hate Scott. He's earned that reputation from years and years of making stupid blunders. And if they had him as that type of character in the movie, I think Cyke would have been far more popular. Marsden was just miscast.

A pic of Scott in a vegetable-like state isn't really a fair counterpoint.

There's no point in me posting a studly picture of Scott because it all depends on the artist syle. I found he's drawn to look Marsden-esque hot by some and very ordinary by others (Astonishing Scott). However, 90% of the time he's drawn with symmetrical features, a square jaw, broad shoulders, big muscles...etc. I don't know many average guys that have all of those physical traits. Comicbook Logan is specifically drawn to be not attractive and the other extreme is Warren who is basically the X-world version of Brad Pitt. The "ugly ducking" analogy fits Scott perfectly because it implies that he outgrew that persona. He started off as a skinny, awkward orphan who drove people away because of his inability to control his mutation. So he ended up pushing people away and had minimal self-confidence. But in time with Xavier moulding him into a leader and Jean falling in love with him, he grew into his own skin. He just doesn't strike me as the type of guy who acknowledges his looks, like Warren or even Remy, but he still turns heads.

X-fans love to hate Cyclops? Then why the public fanboy outcry when it was leaked that they were going to kill him in X3? And you mention Marsden being miscast because he's too pretty for Scott. Um, what about Jackman and Wolverine?! First of all Jackman has a foot on the guy, he's a tenth less hairy and is, well, he's handsome. Logan is supposed to be ugly...not average but the complete opposite of conventionally handsome. The general public didn't care for Marsden's Cyke because of writing (or lack thereof).