Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Farren]

Nice Jean/Scott vid - added to favs.

Back to Cyclops. I was a bit disappointed that none of the alternate endings hinted at Scott's survival.

I'm not surprised...the nail was in the coffin from day one of shooting - they wouldn't have wanted to 'waste' the film.

 

[Iceman]

This movie only has an hour and half? and Scott doesn't disappear until 40 mins later?
Well, then that must be the longest (also meaningless) 50 mins I have to endure in the theater.

Such a shame

An extra hour added to the film, inserting the best of the deleted scenes and keeping the main guys alive, allowing Cyclops to lead the team in the final battle and we would have a very good film.

 

[MsNatchios]

wow. Thats the best vid i've ever seen. -sighs- Well if only Scott stuck around a little longer.


By the way, which super hero would you like to see James as? Who do you think he'll fit the bill?

James would be awesome as Iron Fist and Nightwing. But he was a pefrect Cyclops (albeit a tiny bit young compared to Famke, Halle and Hugh).

 

[gap5ewl]

James would be awesome as Iron Fist and Nightwing. But he was a pefrect Cyclops (albeit a tiny bit young compared to Famke, Halle and Hugh).

nahh. the one thing i liked about Marsden's performance was that he gave off a very mature tone to the character like he was the same age ad the others and even the glasses made him look mature. I was suprised when I first found out how old he was back in X1 cause I thaught he had to be in his mid-30's and least...which he is now.

 

[Vilya]

We can pretend with Cyclops fan vids. Pretty damn sad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJvvOa8GiE

Very good vid! thanks for sharing.

 

[WideAwake]

yeah i didn't remember that either. i don't think it's in my pirated versions either, though they might just not be clear enough to capture it. i have it capped already:

he looks like he has a dirty 'stache

Wasn't that bit in one of the promo-clips only? I don't remember seeing it in the movie either. Maybe they editted it like that to be able to show the infirmary scene, without spoiling what happened to Cyclops.
I believe it was the "where is Scott?" clip.

 

[Pizzaboy1138]

Very good vid! thanks for sharing.

That video is great!

 

[Bastila]

This movie only has an hour and half? and Scott doesn't disappear until 40 mins later?
Well, then that must be the longest (also meaningless) 50 mins I have to endure in the theater.

I thought it was likr 20 -30 mins into X3 he goes away (I prefere to think he doesn't die lol we don't see him die so he doesn't lol)

 

[SCOTT&JEAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsJvvOa8GiE

WOW! I love it! That's so amazing...

 

[taintedFB]

It was just bad storytelling... I would have rather had Scott have a small role but survive...to leave us some hope for a better part in another sequel.

His two scenes should have been Alkali Lake and the Final Battle.... Those would have made this movie great!

 

[Farren]

yeah i didn't remember that either. i don't think it's in my pirated versions either, though they might just not be clear enough to capture it. i have it capped already:

he looks like he has a dirty 'stache

I don't remember seeing it in the theater either.

But I found a copy of the 'where's scott' clip still on this site from before the release:
http://www.filmfocus.nl/trailers/18979-X-Men_The_Last_Stand.html

If you look very very carefully and pause it right before the camera cuts away, you can sorta see an amorphous Scott-face. It's definately not as clear as this though: maybe it's just the quality of the clip, or maybe they touched it up for the DVD.

 

[Halcohol]

He went to a nice farm upstate with lots of room for him to run around with all the other Cyclopses.

 

[triplefive]

He went to a nice farm upstate with lots of room for him to run around with all the other Cyclopses.

hahahaha, RANDOM. i miss that show so much.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Reading the Grail...and im on Scott's diary 8 ... and..wtf...am I reading? lol

 

[gap5ewl]

You know I noticed something while watching the movie...right after jean is kissing scott and his face starts to vibrate, it cuts to the school. The first thing we see is a close up of xavier and him suddenly in agony and closing his eyes. Then we go to the mansion and here voices all over. Well listen carefully..it's actually Xavier whispering Scott, scott...

SO this lead to a theory i made..what if Xavier was behind what happened to Scott? Let me explain..I think Xavier knew Scott was going there and realized Jean had just resurrected. He "eaves dropped" and got into her head. When phoenix realizes this, it takes over jean and she starts to phoenix up while kissing scott. Now what I think happened was once jean started to phoenix up, Xavier realized Scott was in toruble so tried his best to distract jean from destroying Scott and sent him flying instead. But somehow the shockwave interfered with Xavier, hence him looking like he is in pain, and he couldn't figure out what happened to Scott, nor does Jean...Just a theory

 

[Muad'Dib]

I just finished rewatching the movie.

Just as before Scott's fate is anything but certain. Something did happen to him but you don't know what.

While the writers clearly intended to kill him off as they themselves said, Ratner and co might have had second thoughts due to the negative feedback almost immediately received when it was leaked Scott was going to die.

I think this is exactly the reason why his apparent demise is not specifically seen, everything about the sequence from the image on the glasses to the conversations is an indication they suspect Scott was killed by what Jean believes, but she sure doesn't know even herself.

She didn't desintegrate him as you can see the area is all intact and everything is simply floating around. And his glasses don't vaporize into ash in the infirmary like someone claimed, Jean breaks them with her powers when she's having a meltdown trying to remember what happened and believing she must have killed him but she clearly doesn't know any better than anyone else.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

I just finished rewatching the movie.

Just as before Scott's fate is anything but certain. Something did happen to him but you don't know what.

While the writers clearly intended to kill him off as they themselves said, Ratner and co might have had second thoughts due to the negative feedback almost immediately received when it was leaked Scott was going to die.

I think this is exactly the reason why his apparent demise is not specifically seen, everything about the sequence from the image on the glasses to the conversations is an indication they suspect Scott was killed by what Jean believes, but she sure doesn't know even herself.

She didn't desintegrate him as you can see the area is all intact and everything is simply floating around. And his glasses don't vaporize into ash in the infirmary like someone claimed, Jean braks them with her powers when she's having a meltdown trying to remember what happened and believing she must have killed him but she clearly doesn't know any better than anyone else.

Interesting Point.

 

[cyke93]

You know I noticed something while watching the movie...right after jean is kissing scott and his face starts to vibrate, it cuts to the school. The first thing we see is a close up of xavier and him suddenly in agony and closing his eyes. Then we go to the mansion and here voices all over. Well listen carefully..it's actually Xavier whispering Scott, scott...

SO this lead to a theory i made..what if Xavier was behind what happened to Scott? Let me explain..I think Xavier knew Scott was going there and realized Jean had just resurrected. He "eaves dropped" and got into her head. When phoenix realizes this, it takes over jean and she starts to phoenix up while kissing scott. Now what I think happened was once jean started to phoenix up, Xavier realized Scott was in toruble so tried his best to distract jean from destroying Scott and sent him flying instead. But somehow the shockwave interfered with Xavier, hence him looking like he is in pain, and he couldn't figure out what happened to Scott, nor does Jean...Just a theory

very interesting post. i havent watched the dvd, nor do i plan on buying it but if my brother happens to rent it, ill make sure to listen carefully to that part.

here's what i am thinking .. they really just wanted scott dead, no questions asked.. after fan outcry they decided to edit the movie a little bit differently to give people a false sense of "hope"

1. not showing scott fully zapped was the biggest one they could do an easy edit.
2. logan and storm arrive to see everything all weirded n things floating.. look what happened when jean zaps charles.. the water from the sink was rising up . .the house was floating .. logan was pushed up against the ceiling.. clearly when phoenix demolecularizes people things float.. so all the rocks floating nscott's glasses floating means nothing about him being "alive" .. it just so happened to work with him either dying or living
3. xavier could've been in pain because he felt scott's death but hey add xavier calling "scott" and you can have conspiracy theories form

plain n simple someone in charge of x3 had a clear vendetta on either james or the character of cyclops because he wasnt the only one screwed in the movie (angel collossus rouge *ahem) but he certaintly got ******* the most

so
they shot the film (or most of the film) .. james did his part.. a huge outcry over scott's death.. no1 could do anything anymore .. u can rewrite the story, cant re do shots... so you edit the scene where scott gets whacked.. u never show a body.. u add little touches like xavier whispering "Scott"

 

[Mar420x]

cyke was trapped in the glasses.. and when phoenix destroyed them in the lab she killed em.. damn u fox!!!!!! im out..

 

[Vilya]

^Thats such a beautiful pair of Oakleys made famous by James every time i walk past a shop selling these i'd drool at them.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

you make my mind wonder at times when u mention ... the word "drool,"

 

[Vilya]

>Ahem<.... well, they are just so perfect in their design you know....

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

same can be said about Jean's x-suit... especially in X2..and her hair style works too when its all fluttery when she moves and thrusts forward with her hand outstretched like she's going to force choke you into a wall.

 

[gap5ewl]

same can be said about Jean's x-suit... especially in X2..and her hair style works too when its all fluttery when she moves and thrusts forward with her hand outstretched like she's going to force choke you into a wall.

i like how you always seem to make a star wars reference when u talk about jean. lolt:

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well... think about it, if Jean has the same abilities the Jedi do, then Jean could be a part of that force except...thats when the Phoenix 'force' comes into the picture. I don't think Jean needs a lightsaber...she can easily out do her opponent within seconds based on what we've seen her do.