Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Octoberist]

I've heard that other directors had the same hatred for Rothman, as much as Proyas did.

Stephen Norrington, who directed Blade, quit Hollywood b/c of Rothman during the League of the Extraordinary Gentlemen. If Rothman didn't interfer (with him wanting Tom Sawyer in the movie..thought the movie was 'too' European), the League could of been a good movie. The comics were friggin' great, it didn't deserve this.

 

[aaron]

hes a f***ing s**t

 

[InsaneMembrane]

X Maniac does have a point...kinda. Marsden DID make that decision to be in Singer's Superman (in whom I felt that Richard White could of been played by anyone). And also, if Cykes dies, it's because of the scheduling conflict too, not just b/c of Rothman.

But I do feel like Rothman did play a role here. He's very controlling and has a bad reputation, from what I know.

Oh please lots of people have more than one movie coming out at the same time the guy who plays Alfred was in BB and bewitched which opened on the same weekend..guess he should just pick one. The scheduling conflict I heard was resolved ..Fox just doesnt know the meaning of professionalism.

 

[aaron]

michael caine

 

[aaron]

how does someone not know who michael caine is?

 

[newwaveboy87]

good question...how indeed.

 

[InsaneMembrane]

how does someone not know who michael caine is?

His name slipped my mind for a second

 

[aaron]

lol ok

 

[americanguy96]

You never know, if Cyclops ends up having a small role in this film and even dieing, it might be HIS death where he makes impact on the series. Very sad, I know, but quite possible.

 

[Xfanfan]

You are absolutely right about that, not only that, but his death could be the key to Jean's transformation into Dark Phoenix.

Xfanfan

 

[Timstuff]

But if Cyke dies then what turns Jean back from being evil?

 

[Electrix]

Jean herself?

 

[Xfanfan]

You are right, well maybe they will instead of killing him have her put him in a coma or something so he will not be dead but pretty much out at picture and at the hospital getting better. Then when she finds out she did not kill him then she could get better.

Xfanfan

 

[newwaveboy87]

i'd rather they put Cyclops in a coma or something, instead of killing him. killing him is just such a bad idea.

 

[Electrix]

...and a coma is....?

 

[Octoberist]

I still like the idea of him leaving the X-Men and then come back near the end to help them out.

 

[heathm]

if it were up to me i wouldn't kill off any characters, but if they absolutily feel the need to the should do the whole mental battle between phoenix and prof. x and she magneto outcasting mystique for loosing her powers and then at some point she gets them back and assasinates him. the end the film with the two teams even stronger with their new leaders. have cyclops get some good screen time as the leader of the x-men. then it would make for a good ending to the series showing all of the x-men are ok and stronger, but it will also leave a few door open in the possibility of a fourth film

 

[Octoberist]

theory: Let's say that Cyclops does get killed off early in the movie. And it would take a day to shoot.

I think that Phoenix during the 'final battle' will mentally picture Cyclops (Obi Star Wars style) talking to her, telling her to stop it. And then she would realize was she was doing and THAT she killed her loved one. That can work, and it gives Cyclops at LEAST two scenes in the movie (beginning and end). Pluse it'll give Cyclops an important role within the plot. Though he's not there physically, he's there in her mind.

 

[X-Maniac]

If Cyclops will die, it will have to happen in a 'natural' way, not a sudden scene just to get rid of him. I agree a dramatic sacrifice would be better...but they would also want to avoid having too many funeral services in the movie, so maybe after Jean's memorial service, they don't want another...therefore perhaps that is pointing them towards the vaporisation idea.

I'm wondering what happens to Jean at the end of the movie.

For her to die again would be too much; for her to disappear in a blinding flash of light might be too much like Cyclops' fate, except if she says she is off to join him in the afterlife or on some other plane of existence.

 

[Timstuff]

Killing off characters for shock value is a lame way to make up for a lack of ability to write good drama. "D'oh, we can't figure out how they made the old stories so good, so we have to spice it up by killing off some characters!" Kevin J. Anderson thought that he could make up for his lack of talent by killing off popular Star Wars characters in his books, and now the entire SW fanbase wants him crucified. Point is, "Shock value deaths" do not accomplish anything for a story, and like fossil fuels there is a finite supply that can't be refilled, since obviousely if you had the means to create interesting stuff, you wouldn't have to destroy something to keep things interesting.

 

[TheVileOne]

theory: Let's say that Cyclops does get killed off early in the movie. And it would take a day to shoot.

I think that Phoenix during the 'final battle' will mentally picture Cyclops (Obi Star Wars style) talking to her, telling her to stop it. And then she would realize was she was doing and THAT she killed her loved one. That can work, and it gives Cyclops at LEAST two scenes in the movie (beginning and end). Pluse it'll give Cyclops an important role within the plot. Though he's not there physically, he's there in her mind.

Ummm...no .

 

[newwaveboy87]

its better then his doing one scene, and then poof, dead.
at least its something. although Jean's death isn't too great an idea if done that way.

 

[TheVileOne]

You are right, well maybe they will instead of killing him have her put him in a coma or something so he will not be dead but pretty much out at picture and at the hospital getting better. Then when she finds out she did not kill him then she could get better.

Xfanfan

Or maybe they could do something that's not totally stupid and non-sensical at all that doesn't involve killing Cyclops or putting him into a coma! Good God! What a thought.

 

[GNR]

Hopefully Ratner keeps him alive.I'm not buying JoBlo's supposed scoop about his death with Storm reading the eulogy.Those guys guaranteed us Nick Stahl was Angel,then look what happened.

 

[newwaveboy87]

they also put up the Wizard article as fact. even though all of us know through assorted confirmations and such, that most of those "facts" are really old by now.