Official Justice League Status Update Thread

[BATZARRO WWD]

So who exactly are the non-normal freaks? People who are not interested in seeing Arm & Hammer Batman?

Well, you see, normal people would judge a movie based on what is has, or how it looks. A normal person, as I imagine, would not simply squint at the poster credits looking for Bale's name. There have been Batman movies probably before either of us was born. And there are multiple versions. Have you noticed who plays him isn't always that important to the success of his multimedia apearances? It had a dud with a (now) well respected actor, and a success with an oddball who(wait for it) fans hated...before seeing him.

A freak, on the other hand, thinks the actor does the character. A freak makes an absolutist demand that if you can't get the actor, then you're better off not doing anything at all. A fan...in the sense that he blows a lot of air.

Hmmm, hype made TDK a lot of money. I'm sure being a film of extremely high quality would have nothing to do with any of it's BO performance, right? Because after WB and fanboys and girls (or perhaps freaks to you) managed to hype up that opening weekend it's been 60% - 70% drops each of the following weekends.

Now, don't break your heart over it. It's not a knock on the movies quality. It's good(but not on the "cure for cancer" level some folks made it out to be.) But, yeah, Hype drove sales. Hype does that.

Or what, you ain't never seen a good movie flop because of lack of hype?

So, you've managed to define "normal" as someone willing to watch another live action Batman while another live action Batman is still running its course. Well done with your labelling.

Thank you. I do my best.


Wait...that's not a compliment?

I mean, being obsessed with any kind of celebrity takes you out of the normal club in my book. BUt that's my humble opinion...

May I add, Bale was asked wether children recognized as Batman on the streets. He said they didn't. A Pues!

 

[TheComicbookKid]

'Normal folks' are the ones helping it break records, in fact they're doing most of the work, a films doesn't make $400 million on the back of the 10% of fanboys watching it 10 times each. Hype sold a small part of the film, TDK as a film sold itself, bringing in not only regular fans, but thousands of people who usually don't see these type of films, hence why there are still theatres to this day with sold out sessions. The general public or 'normal folks' have been introduced and see only one person and one person alone as Batman, one C. Bale. No Bale in JL, there goes a large percentage of your audience.

But this isn't a Batman flick. It's not like you're trying to say "this is BAtman." No one is trying to steal Bale's thunder. They are just trying to tell a different kind of tale. It's the JUSTICE LEAGUE. Not BATMAN and his SUPERFRIENDS.

No one is confusing Terminator Salvation with The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Well, you see, normal people would judge a movie based on what is has, or how it looks.

Wow, so I'm sure you've managed to live your entire life without ever prejudging one piece of entertainment before seeing, hearing or reading it. You must be a god among men. Thank you for showing me the way.

A normal person, as I imagine, would not simply squint at the poster credits looking for Bale's name. There have been Batman movies probably before either of us was born. And there are multiple versions. Have you noticed who plays him isn't always that important to the success of his multimedia apearances? It had a dud with a (now) well respected actor, and a success with an oddball who(wait for it) fans hated...before seeing him.

A freak, on the other hand, thinks the actor does the character. A freak makes an absolutist demand that if you can't get the actor, then you're better off not doing anything at all. A fan...in the sense that he blows a lot of air.

I'm gonna let you in on a secret. There's this little movie called The Dark Knight that's out right now, and it is shattering BO records left and right and has an extremely high critical rating. Now call me a freak, but common sense would lead me to think that if a live action Batman is needed for a project, that perhaps, just maybe, the Batman that is currently in the record breaking movie should be used!!! Mind boggling!

Now, don't break your heart over it. It's not a knock on the movies quality. It's good(but not on the "cure for cancer" level some folks made it out to be.) But, yeah, Hype drove sales. Hype does that.

Or what, you ain't never seen a good movie flop because of lack of hype?

You still need a product that manages to, at least for a good number of people, live up to this "hype". It's much more than what you're attributing as hype, that has propelled it to the level it as at today, both financially and critically.

But, feel free to get back to me when Miller's JL Mortal breaks all of TDK's records and manages at least a 94% rating on RT.

I mean, being obsessed with any kind of celebrity takes you out of the normal club in my book. BUt that's my humble opinion...

Who here is being obsessed? Unless now you are going to define someone as being "obsessed" because they would rather see Bale in the role than someone else.

May I add, Bale was asked wether children recognized as Batman on the streets. He said they didn't. A Pues!

Ok?

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

Indeed! Justice League's selling points would likely include scope and the "Wow, group!" factor. I just don't think most people would reject this film with multiple selling points solely because of Bale not being in. And Justice League, would release, IF it were to start filming next year, would be looking at roughly 2010/11 for release. Most average joes won't necessarilly be talking abot TDK by then as they are now.

And what's the point of saying Dark Knight is breaking this or that record. Last year it was the 3rd Pirates movie and Spider-Man 3. Yeah , they were THAT good...right?

"I'm gonna let you in on a secret. There's this little movie called The Dark Knight that's out right now, and it is shattering BO records left and right and has an extremely high critical rating. Now call me a freak, but common sense would lead me to think that if a live action Batman is needed for a project, that perhaps, just maybe, the Batman that is currently in the record breaking movie should be used!!! Mind boggling!"

Now, this is where I lose you. How much of a sell factor is the actual actor for that movie? As far as I could tell, Heath Ledger was the one getting praised. Bale himself, while a decent Batman, is not as big of a sale factor as you might be led to imagine.

Then, off course, I'd try to carry on and try to explain how the world Nolan created is too grounded and how the Bale himself doens't want to be in Justice League, and ...but you don't wanna hear that, and you have mortal buissness to attend... In short, whether You, me or Warner wants Bale, he's not gonna do it. And Justice League needs a Batman, so, yeah, recast.

 

[Showtime]

I don't know what we are even arguing about here, Dark Knight is in the theaters now approaching Titanic and George Miller's JL is stuck in neutral right now. Apples and oranges.

 

[jmc]

But this isn't a Batman flick. It's not like you're trying to say "this is BAtman." No one is trying to steal Bale's thunder. They are just trying to tell a different kind of tale. It's the JUSTICE LEAGUE. Not BATMAN and his SUPERFRIENDS.

No one is confusing Terminator Salvation with The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

It's riding on the coat tails of a Batman flick, he's going to be the selling point because, like it or not, he's WB No.1 character at the moment. As much as people say it's a JL film, it's got Batman in it, people will see it as a Batman film because he is the flavour of the month.

 

[jmc]

Bit of breaking news. Just listening to a local radio station here in Sydney and apparently their entertainment reporter spoke to Gale at the DJ fashion show yesterday regarding JL. No links to this online unfortunately. Apparently Gale was informed recently and stated:

• There are huge script changes

• Starting date for shooting has been scheduled sometime next year but doesn't know when.

• The WW role has been reworked and made larger

• WB are trying to get Nolan and Bale on board (not sure what that means, either involved or get their blessing)

• The project has been on again / off again since last year

 

[biolumen]

The biggest BS of all is that the article actually states RESUME shooting.

That's an error, correct. No doubt they meant 'resume production', since there was no principle filming taking place.

And as KBX points out, Miller didn't say that himself. The articles' author did. All Miller said was that he hoped it would be given the okay and that he thought the chances were that it would be given the go ahead.

 

[sithgoblin]

Megan Gale stunned Oscar director George Miller
Article from: Herald Sun
August 01, 2008 12:00am

HER big star vehicle, Justice League of America, may be up on blocks for
a few months, but Megan Gale can take some comfort in the fact that the
film's director, George Miller, is a big fan.

The Aussie Oscar-winner said the glamazon "blitzed her opposition" when
she read for the part of Wonder Woman in the sci-fi production.

"She got the job because she blitzed her screen test. I mean, I had no
idea she was so good," Miller said.

"She walked into our office in Sydney and read the part. She has done
some Italian movies, but I didn't think she would be as good as she was.

"But once she read we all looked around at each other and said, 'Well,
there's no question'."

Miller revealed Gale had only a few hours of acting training with a NIDA
coach before her audition.

Initially slated to be filmed Down Under, Miller conceded production had
been moved offshore, with a plan to resume filming next year.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24109597-2902,00.html

 

[biolumen]

He's made WB a lot of money over the years as a director and producer and he's not a director that can just be blown off. Especially if he can pull the plug on Happy Feet 2, which is a big potential money maker.

If it comes down to it, he might have someone else direct HF2, like he had Phillip Noyce direct 'Dead Calm' or Chris Noonan direct 'Babe'. One thing I've always wondered was how badly did he want to make this movie. It was obvious he wanted to do it in Australia as a means of fostering a new age of film production down under, but now that he has to go elsewhere to make it, does he feel the same desire to make it as he did before? I would guess that since he's still pushing it forward, he does.

 

[biolumen]

I suggest you ask me yourself instead of running to another forum and mouthing off.

In the future, I will.

Slashfilm simply picked up on Miller's comments to Herald Sun. It wasn't worth mentioning because this is 100% coming outta Miller whose spent the last year now trying to gain support/momentum on the project.

Thank you for clearing that up.

 

[biolumen]

Did they ever finish the script at all? I remember something about a rewrite.

Back in early June, IESB reported hearing that WB hadn't given up on the movie and had assigned writers to it. It wasn't known if it was the Mulroneys or not. I assume it's being worked on to adjust the script to match budgetary constraints.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=5002

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Bit of breaking news. Just listening to a local radio station here in Sydney and apparently their entertainment reporter spoke to Gale at the DJ fashion show yesterday regarding JL. No links to this online unfortunately. Apparently Gale was informed recently and stated:

• There are huge script changes

• Starting date for shooting has been scheduled sometime next year but doesn't know when.

• The WW role has been reworked and made larger

• WB are trying to get Nolan and Bale on board (not sure what that means, either involved or get their blessing)

• The project has been on again / off again since last year

Thanks for the info. But hearing anything from actors right now means almost nothing to me. We need word from Robinov or Horn. We have Routh saying the same exact stuff about MOS. That the script is being worked on and he believes filming will start in 2009. So according to Gale and Routh, we have JLA and MOS heading before the cameras in 2009. Something tells me that won't be happening (both films filming) and something tells me we won't be getting two different live action Superman in separate films in 2010. So, as far as I'm concerned, Routh and Gale just cross each other out. We need word from high up in WB.

 

[biolumen]

I am a fan of Justice League as well, I just don't want it like this. I will leave it at that.

If I heard tomorrow that Justice League with Miller was going forward, I would be on board

That's heartening to hear. If Warners decides to go the route of Bale and Routh as Batman and Superman, I'd be disappointed, but I would still give the movie a chance.

 

[biolumen]

Bit of breaking news. Just listening to a local radio station here in Sydney and apparently their entertainment reporter spoke to Gale at the DJ fashion show yesterday regarding JL. No links to this online unfortunately. Apparently Gale was informed recently and stated:

• There are huge script changes

• Starting date for shooting has been scheduled sometime next year but doesn't know when.

• The WW role has been reworked and made larger

• WB are trying to get Nolan and Bale on board (not sure what that means, either involved or get their blessing)

• The project has been on again / off again since last year

Thanks jmc.

- The script changes are not surprising, but continue to be a concern. For me, this movie lives or dies on the script. They better get it right.

- While i'm pleased to hear her speak of the scheduled starting date being next year, I have to wonder if this is just Gale being overly optimistic and not something that is indeed fact. Huge grain of salt here, as usual.

- Interesting to hear the WW role being increased, but again with the salt. This is Gale speaking.

- Nolan and Bale on board is the most interesting item here. I figure it has to do with getting their okay or perhaps with tying the two franchises together in some manner. Nolan isn't going to direct it so perhaps it might have something to do with Bale playing Batman in Miller's JL:M. This is indeed an interesting comment on her part.

- On and off again. Yeah, we know.

Thanks again for this info jmc.

 

[Gotham]

Bit of breaking news. Just listening to a local radio station here in Sydney and apparently their entertainment reporter spoke to Gale at the DJ fashion show yesterday regarding JL. No links to this online unfortunately. Apparently Gale was informed recently and stated:

• There are huge script changes

• Starting date for shooting has been scheduled sometime next year but doesn't know when.

• The WW role has been reworked and made larger

• WB are trying to get Nolan and Bale on board (not sure what that means, either involved or get their blessing)

• The project has been on again / off again since last year

Thanks for the information. I wonder how big the Wonder Woman role was before he came on.

 

[biolumen]

It should be noted that Teresa Palmer was at the same fashion show at Gale's invite.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24136079-5013560,00.html

 

[KBX]

You wanna solve all the bale/batman issues? just don't have him star in the movie. Do what Downey Jr. did in TIH. There were trailers with him but in the end, he had 1 scene.

Honestly I want a JL movie for other characters not name Batman or Superman. Have Bale do 2 scenes, and show one in the trailer. Boom, problem solved.

Or simply just don't use him

 

[TheComicbookKid]

You wanna solve all the bale/batman issues? just don't have him star in the movie. Do what Downey Jr. did in TIH. There were trailers with him but in the end, he had 1 scene.

Honestly I want a JL movie for other characters not name Batman or Superman. Have Bale do 2 scenes, and show one in the trailer. Boom, problem solved.

Or simply just don't use him

Ain't that the truth. If fans have really turned Nolan's BAtman into the the Ark of the Covenant, then simply don't touch it. Just let the Justice League move on with another character.

 

[GreenKToo]

You wanna solve all the bale/batman issues? just don't have him star in the movie. Do what Downey Jr. did in TIH. There were trailers with him but in the end, he had 1 scene.

Honestly I want a JL movie for other characters not name Batman or Superman. Have Bale do 2 scenes, and show one in the trailer. Boom, problem solved.

Or simply just don't use him

I think that would be best. Have him in a couple of scenes at most. Maybe have him be the one the seeks out the other metahumans to combat a VERY large threat he discovers is forthcoming.

The scene I keep seeing in my mind is of him in the Batcave looking at dossiers of other heroes. Superman, G.L., Flash, M.M., etc.
Beside each heroes picture there is also a picture of their secret I.D. How kool would that be? Batman IS a detective after all.

For the scenes without him, just have the other heroes talk about how he (Bats) showed up like a ghost in their respective towns to recruit them.

 

[Showtime]

Back in early June, IESB reported hearing that WB hadn't given up on the movie and had assigned writers to it. It wasn't known if it was the Mulroneys or not. I assume it's being worked on to adjust the script to match budgetary constraints.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=5002

That was then this is now. To tell you the truth, I don't thinK George Miller knows much about what is going on anymore...

That's heartening to hear. If Warners decides to go the route of Bale and Routh as Batman and Superman, I'd be disappointed, but I would still give the movie a chance.

Although obviously not as serious, and this is just a movie but I compare it to the mindset in regards to the war. You can be against the reasoning or the act of war, but still support the troops so to speak.

It should be noted that Teresa Palmer was at the same fashion show at Gale's invite.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,26278,24136079-5013560,00.html

That happened previously as well and everybody tried to find a link, they are friends now because of meeting up for JL, honestly it has nothing to do with JL.

What is funny is that when Routh and Singer say a Superman Returns sequel, everybody says it doesn't matter. When Gale and Miller say it however, it is happening. Very strange.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

What is funny is that when Routh and Singer say a Superman Returns sequel, everybody says it doesn't matter. When Gale and Miller say it however, it is happening. Very strange.

Does it matter when Legendary's Tull says they're examining proposal for the SR sequel?
Or when Paul Levitz says we may see Superman and Batman on screen together?

 

[birdgirl]

You wanna solve all the bale/batman issues? just don't have him star in the movie. Do what Downey Jr. did in TIH. There were trailers with him but in the end, he had 1 scene.

Honestly I want a JL movie for other characters not name Batman or Superman. Have Bale do 2 scenes, and show one in the trailer. Boom, problem solved.

Or simply just don't use him

I'd be completely fine with that, actually. I'm in to this movie to see the interactions between the characters (and some kick-ass action), and would be slightly sad not to see Flash and Batman interact, but I'd get over it.

 

[Showtime]

Does it matter when Legendary's Tull says they're examining proposal for the SR sequel?
Or when Paul Levitz says we may see Superman and Batman on screen together?

I'm really not sure what your point is?

I know what mine is though, this George Miller quote from the Australian Newspaper is getting more play then those three comments combined above. I find it pretty funny.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

I'm really not sure what your point is?

I know what mine is though, this George Miller quote from the Australian Newspaper is getting more play then those three comments combined above. I find it pretty funny.

It depends on who pick up the story.
If something is reported on comics2film, then superherohype, latinoreview and slashfilm, it's bound to appear on every movie site in the world.
For example I hadn't noticed the interview on Newsarama about the Phantom Tv series until it was linked in an Italian website. Now I put it on comics2film and in a couple of days I guess it will pop up in a lot of other sites...